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Stop Apologizing to Islam!! - (stupendous...what else can I say? Barbara Stock is RIGHT! ENOUGH!)
CHRONWATCH.COM ^ | MAY 15, 2005 | BARBARA STOCK

Posted on 05/14/2005 11:23:48 PM PDT by CHARLITE

We Americans need to get our priorities straight. We are at war with Islam. I want President Bush, Secretary Rice, the media, and the bleeding-heart liberals to stop apologizing to Islam and I want it to stop right now. Islamists are slaughtering people all over the world. Islam has threatened to make our streets “run red with American blood.” A Saudi Islamic cleric gave bin Laden permission to detonate a nuke in a major American city. Enough already!

What has set off the latest round of breast-beating and begging for Islamic forgiveness? Allegedly, the Quran was urinated on, or placed on a toilet or something. Newsweek couldn’t wait to report this non-story knowing it would trigger anti-American riots and give the Islamic propaganda machine fodder for weeks to come. In fact, if Islam has any pattern, people will die because of these still unproven allegations. Once again, the sins of Islamists will be on the back page as we Americans scramble to be forgiven by Islam.

Look for more kidnappings that will be followed by the obligatory beheadings of innocent people so that “Islamic honor” can be restored. As we have all learned, only the death of someone not even remotely involved in whatever it is Islamists are enraged about, restores Islam’s “honor.” These beheadings will be video taped and gleefully shown on Al Jazeera every five minutes. In fact, four Afghani men have already died because of that report. Good job, Newsweek.

What has happened to this country? Four months after the attack on Pearl Harbor, Lt. Col. Jimmy Doolittle and his raiders launched an attack on mainland Japan. That raid had one purpose and one purpose only: To humiliate the Japanese and let them clearly know they had picked a fight with the wrong dog. Did Franklin Delano Roosevelt “apologize” for the attack? Of course not! He approved the raid.

On December 7, 1941, 2,403 men died at Pearl Harbor. On September 11, 2001, 2,948 people died with 48 still missing and presumed dead for a total of 2,996 on American soil. Pearl Harbor was at least a military target. The World Trade Center was not.

Now we are at war again. This time with an enemy that has no borders, no country, no government, and no recognizable army. Islam is an enemy that does not hesitate to kill innocent civilians. In fact, Islam prefers civilians because it fears our military. It’s much cheaper and easier to kill a child than a Marine.

Islam was not outraged as Saddam Hussain slaughtered his people. Islam was not outraged as the Taliban executed women for any number of imagined sins. Islam is silent as Iran stones 13-year-old girls to death. Islam is not outraged as thousands of young women die at the hands of their own families in brutal honor killings. Islam says nothing as its terrorist heroes butcher Iraqi Muslims on a daily basis.

What does it take to make a Muslim angry? Say something bad about Islam and you can lose your head. Drop the Quran in the dirt and you will be hanged. In Sudan, a hapless man named Mohamed Taha Mohamed Ahmed, dared speculate that Mohammed was not the son of Abdullah and is now on trial for blasphemy and he will probably be hanged. Mobs of foaming-at-the-mouth Muslims gather outside the courthouse demanding he be torn to bits for even thinking such a thing.

Put women’s underwear on a Muslim prisoner’s head and Islamists lose total control and riot in the streets outraged at the barbaric treatment of their “soldiers.” Islamic terrorists do not uphold a single word of the Geneva Convention. They beat, torture, and behead our prisoners, many of whom are not even soldiers. They desecrate bodies by burning them and hanging them from bridges, but touch that Quran and Islam loses its collective mind.

We are apologizing to these people?

Perhaps Americans need some reminders of some of the crimes that Islam has committed against America. It is in the name of Islam these attacks have been carried out and I hold Islam responsible because it is Islam that has raised these terrorists to hero status.

On the orders of Yassar Arafat the American embassy was attacked in March of 1973 and two diplomats were killed and others were held hostage. Arafat demanded the freedom of fellow Muslim Sirhan Sirhan, in prison for killing Robert Kennedy.

A few months later, in Athens, three Americans were killed and 55 injured as Islamic terrorists threw grenades and machine-gunned civilians waiting for a flight to New York.

In 1983, 17 Americans died when Islamists blew up a car in front of the embassy in Lebanon. Four more Americans died when the American embassy in Kuwait was attacked that same year.

Returning to the American embassy in Lebanon in 1984, 24 more Americans died when yet another car bomb went off outside the embassy.

The year 1985 brought death to five Americans in Rome with 74 wounded in an Islamic attack at the airport. Also in 1985, Americans got their first glimpse into the soul of the enemy when Islamic terrorists took over the cruise ship Achilles Lauro and shot a crippled American Jew in a wheelchair, Leon Klinghoffer, and then pushed him overboard.

In May, 1987, the U.S.S. Stark was attacked by an Iraqi fighter plane and 37 American sailors died.

Libya blew up a Pan Am flight over Scotland killing 189 Americans on their way home for Christmas.

Eighteen American soldiers died in Somalia in 1993 and six Americans died in the first World Trade Center bombing with over a thousand injured.

At 9:03 on the morning of April 19, 1995, a Ryder truck blew up in front of the Murrah Federal Building in Oklahoma City. On that spring day 168 people died—many of them small children. This classic Islamic attack was quickly blamed on two “home-grown” terrorists. This case is in the process of being re-examined due to overwhelming evidence that al Qaeda and possibly Saddam Hussain were involved.

In 1996, 19 Americans died when Islamists blew up the Khobar Towers in Saudi Arabia. Also in 1996 there was the mysterious downing of TWA Flight 800. There were 169 Americans on board.

August 7, 1997 was the last day on earth for 23 Americans who were at the American embassies in Tanzania and Kenya.

The year 2000 brought the attack on the U.S.S. Cole that killed 17 American sailors.

This, of course, brings us to the attack on September 11, 2001. There have been many more attacks leading up to that horrible day and not once has Islam apologized.

I hear, “We don’t want to sink to the Islamists’ level.” I don’t want to hear that any more either. There is absolutely no comparison to be made. Islamic prisoners are fed, clothed, and allowed to practice the very religion that has sworn to kill us all. I don’t hear any Islamic outrage over the hostage beheadings or Iraqi children being targeted by Islamic butchers. I didn’t hear a peep of anger when a British imam said children were legitimate targets for Islam.

Islam seems to have no limit to the evil it will inflict on others. Because of this, Islam has lost all rights to protest an imagined injustice inflicted on it.

About the Writer: Barbara J. Stock is a registered nurse who enjoys writing about politics and current events. She has a website at http://www.republicanandproud.com/. Barbara J. receives e-mail at dickens502003@yahoo.com.


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To: Petronius
It might be that the "stuck in time" factor you allude to plays as much a role as their religion. Imagine a country of 16th-century Europeans suddenly confronted with a culture that tolerates MTV, pornography, abortion, and you can fill in the next fifty-thousand examples yourself. The 16th-century Europeans, assuming they survived the initial shock, would be mortified, enraged, repulsed, etc. And they would actively resist any assimilation.

Actually most 16th Century Europeans would probably understand and accept our culture (after the initial transition period). All of the things that the religious right rails against existed in the Medieval period of Europe. If you doubt me look at the Canterbury Tales (which is of course 13th-14th Century). Our culture is no more or less vulgar than our forefather's. Our media is just larger, more global, and omnipresent. Culturally Islam will have to bend to accept us, or eventually we will come to loggerheads and have to fight it out. I vote for the first option, but also can see the second.

Cheers,
CSG

141 posted on 05/16/2005 6:22:30 AM PDT by CompSciGuy ("At 20 years of age the will reigns, at 30 the wit, at 40 the judgment." -- Ben Franklin)
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To: DB; CHARLITE
And you need to read what I was replying to. It wasn't the article. It was other posters demanding that we declare war on Islam front and center.

Following the thread Reply To markers, my post 129 was a Reply To your post 12, your post 12 was a Reply To post 1. Post 1 is the article. You didn't direct your response to any of those other posters. That's pretty clear and straightforward.

And to do anything other than that was being 'PC' and an 'apologist for Islam' etc. I was simply pointing out to do so would be foolish and not further our cause. Go read it again...

Guess what? I fully agree with the "point" you're trying to make here. The problem is that your aim is bad and you blasted the wrong target. Free Republic, like most discussion boards, is full of posters who shoot from the lip and think that the solution to every issue is to "nuke 'em", etc. - it's not always easy to stay "on point".

The premise of the article and your premise are not mutually contradictory or incompatible if you follow the logic of the actual words.

142 posted on 05/16/2005 6:26:17 AM PDT by tarheelswamprat (This tagline space for rent - cheap!)
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To: CHARLITE
Right on!


143 posted on 05/16/2005 6:51:53 AM PDT by Convert from ECUSA (tired of all the shucking and jiving)
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To: Doctor13
It just seemed like to me that the powers to be just wanted to sweep the bombing underneath the rug.

Why wasn't the meeting between Nichols and one of the leaders of the the Philippine group Abu Sayyaf an Al Queida affiliate throughly investigated.

For me there are way to many coincidences that have never been tied down or disproved.

I still do not believe that Tim McVeigh was the ring leader in this fiasco.

From the things that Janet Reno and her group of thugs pulled while in office anything is possible.

Expect more of the same should Hellary or any liberal regain the White House.
144 posted on 05/16/2005 7:02:28 AM PDT by OKIEDOC (LL THE)
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To: Petronius
The problem with waging "wars" against drugs, poverty, or terror is that absolutely nothing could ever constitute winning them.

That is precisely the reason those types of slogans are used to frame these issues in the public consciousness. You and I are in agreement on this.

There will always be a drug problem; groups with no access to conventional weaponry will always resort to terrorism.

Again, I fully agree.

It's not a semantic trifle because "being at war" is invariably used to justify encroachments on constitutional liberties.

I also agree with the second part of this sentence, but the first clause is misguided and irrelevant. I made no accusations of anyone's statements being semantic trifles, and I specifically acknowleged the appropriateness of debating the merits of these types of slogans. I also did specifically point out that your attempt to define the discussion in terms of your arbitrarily narrow definition of the word "war" was incorrect, and that the author's use of the word in the context of her article was correct.

How many abominations against the fourth amendment were perpetrated in the holy name of the War on Drugs? "It's a war, you see. To win the war we may have to make some changes, maybe temporarily sacrifice some rights. What? You don't want to win the war? Whose side you on?"

I'm on your side, Petronius. The so-called War On Drugs is a Trojan horse attack on the Constitution and the Bill of Rights. So are aspects of the War On Terrorism. We do have a corrupt "bi-partisan" oligarchical governing elite which is exploiting these and other issues, e.g. our open borders, to maximise their own power and further their own agendas. Our system of Constitutional checks and balances has been subverted into a legalised mob racket engaging in what I call "institutionalized treason". We have, as a people, fouled our own nest.

None of this, however, has anything to do with the fact that a resurgent radical Islam is at war with our "modern Western civilization", except in the sense of rendering us more vulnerable to the threat. The author of this article is not advocating or defending the cynical sloganeering which so greatly concerns you. She is simply acknowledging an evil reality, and suggesting that apologising to that evil is counterproductive. You have some legitimate disagreements with some of the posters in this thread, but not with the author's premise as stated in the original article. My posts here have simply been to refocus the discussion.

145 posted on 05/16/2005 8:03:57 AM PDT by tarheelswamprat (This tagline space for rent - cheap!)
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To: All
All we have to do is become energy independent and stop giving out foriegn aid.

Once those Muslim countries have no cash flow they will go back to the stone age where they belong!

146 posted on 05/16/2005 1:49:48 PM PDT by Evolution (Tolerance!? We don't need no stinking Tolerance ! ! !)
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To: CHARLITE

"A Saudi Islamic cleric gave bin Laden permission to detonate a nuke in a major American city."

Yeah, if that happens George Bush will give permission to the Strategic Nuclear Forces of the United States to detonate nukes in evey major Muslim population area on the globe. Also the streets of this country will run red with blood of Muslims slaughtered by an outraged US public. The clerics better watch out what they wish for.


147 posted on 05/16/2005 1:57:40 PM PDT by DarthVader (Liberal Democrat = Fat, drunk and stupid is a hell of a way to go through life)
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To: DarthVader
"Also the streets of this country will run red with blood of Muslims slaughtered by an outraged US public. The clerics better watch out what they wish for."

BOFFO!! I wish that at least 250 million of the 300 million Americans had your "resolve" and your "can do" attitude!

Thanks so much for such a strong statement. I agree with you totally!

Char :)

148 posted on 05/16/2005 3:59:06 PM PDT by CHARLITE (Not gonna be happy until the Hillster is sent packing, with Billery in tow. on a leash.........)
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To: velocityguy

Will do right now. Email the article to my Georgia Reps. that is.


149 posted on 05/16/2005 8:25:28 PM PDT by HighlyOpinionated (Gov'ments 7 Branches: Executive,Legislative,Judicial,Bureaucracy,Lobbies,Political Parties,Media)
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