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Uzbek president defends firing on crowd; 300 believed killed
kansascity.com ^ | Sat, May. 14, 2005 | ALEX RODRIGUEZ

Posted on 05/14/2005 8:00:16 PM PDT by Destro

Edited on 05/14/2005 8:06:21 PM PDT by Sidebar Moderator. [history]

MOSCOW - (KRT) - As authorities struggled to restore calm in eastern Uzbekistan on Saturday after a bloody uprising a day earlier, President Islam Karimov defended the decision by his troops to quell the violence by firing into a large crowd, killing up to 300 people by some estimates.


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Karimov also cited the uprising that led to the overthrow of Askar Akayev's government in Kyrgyzstan in March in explaining his regime's harsh reply to the violence in Andijan. Blaming the Kyrgyz uprising on "the weakness of authorities there," Karimov said protesters in Andijan expected his government to react similarly. "They had hoped that neither the local authorities nor the state authorities of Uzbekistan would demonstrate firmness, as it happened in Kyrgyzstan," Karimov said. "They wanted a repeat of the events in Kyrgyzstan and they wanted to move what happened in Andijan to Tashkent."

They thought wrong.

1 posted on 05/14/2005 8:00:16 PM PDT by Destro
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To: jb6; A. Pole
Do you think George Soros/State Dept whoever overreached?

Seems Putin has drawn the line on these color coded revolutions.

2 posted on 05/14/2005 8:02:49 PM PDT by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorism by visiting johnathangaltfilms.com and jihadwatch.org)
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To: Destro

Last I heard, only 30 confirmed bodies were found.

The 300 number is the number quoted by the prison breakers and islamist rioters.


3 posted on 05/14/2005 8:05:30 PM PDT by FreedomNeocon
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To: Destro

When is a "not a Crusade" a Crusade? When it works..


4 posted on 05/14/2005 8:06:37 PM PDT by Paradox (In my heart, I will always be something of a Liberal, in my head, a Conservative. Head wins.)
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To: Destro
Do you think George Soros/State Dept whoever overreached? Seems Putin has drawn the line on these color coded revolutions.

I think this is the law of unintended consequences at work. The wave of "democratic" revolutions degenerates into chaos.

5 posted on 05/14/2005 8:18:26 PM PDT by A. Pole ("Truth at first is ridiculed, then it is violently opposed and then it is accepted as self evident.")
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To: A. Pole
Don't be so sure the usual Western suspects were not behind these "protests".

From: Uzbek president blames Islamic group for violence:

The protesters, some calling for Karimov to stand down, gathered on Friday after armed rebels stormed a prison and freed inmates, including 23 businessmen charged with religious extremism. The rebels then seized the building and took about 10 police hostage.

Former [British] ambassador Craig Murray said the 23 had been detained on "patently false charges of Islamic extremism."

6 posted on 05/14/2005 8:33:43 PM PDT by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorism by visiting johnathangaltfilms.com and jihadwatch.org)
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To: Destro
Don't be so sure the usual Western suspects were not behind these "protests".

Well, "the usual Western suspects" sent the Bolsheviks into Russia in 1917 and bankrolled them. But to their surprise the fire spread beyond Russian borders and almost devoured the German sponsors of revolution. The same Western civilizers (German establishment) helped to release another brown plague to fight the red one.

"He that sows the wind, shall reap the whirlwind."

7 posted on 05/14/2005 8:43:52 PM PDT by A. Pole ("Truth at first is ridiculed, then it is violently opposed and then it is accepted as self evident.")
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To: A. Pole

Well the democratic revolutions have brought a lawyer/mini-king to Georgia, a socialist and his oligarch PM to Ukraine and a former KGB strongman to Kyrgzstan. Not exactly a great record. Oh and it left purposely the Communists in Moldova, after they paid proper respect to the EU.


8 posted on 05/14/2005 9:38:08 PM PDT by jb6 (Truth == Christ)
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To: jb6

It is not about democracy it is about great game politics.


9 posted on 05/14/2005 9:43:29 PM PDT by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorism by visiting johnathangaltfilms.com and jihadwatch.org)
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To: Destro

I'm as glad as the next guy here to see a few less jihadists above ground...but be careful about giving this guy too much praise. Karimov is a thug and a tyrant of the first order, and Uzbekistan is a hellhole.


10 posted on 05/14/2005 10:53:25 PM PDT by RockAgainsttheLeft04 (Chaos is great. Chaos is what killed the dinosaurs, darling. -- from Heathers (1989))
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To: RockAgainsttheLeft04

Who are we to play in that hell hole? Trying to transfrom nations when we can't even get Social Security right.


11 posted on 05/14/2005 11:11:17 PM PDT by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorism by visiting johnathangaltfilms.com and jihadwatch.org)
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RE: "Trying to transfrom nations when we can't even get Social Security right."


I don't know about you, Destro, but the only way I'm going to be happy with any "fix" in social security is if I don't have to pay into it...which isn't ever likely to happen.

I'm not a baby. On the contraire, I'm actually a semi-responsible adult when I need to be, and I don't like the idea of being broke-ass when I'm 65. I know what to do with my cash, and I'll know when I want to invest it in something...stocks or whatever.

I don't need the U.S. Government taking the cash from my pockets for the next forty years only to get stuck with an IOU and a note saying "we're sorry, but we're (and you're) broke...guess we weren't as solvent as Harry Reid thought".


12 posted on 05/14/2005 11:26:03 PM PDT by RockAgainsttheLeft04 (Chaos is great. Chaos is what killed the dinosaurs, darling. -- from Heathers (1989))
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To: RockAgainsttheLeft04

That is what I am saying - we have issues - our republic is not being tended to and we are stirring up hornet's nests all over the world in order not to spread democracy (that is a crock) but to gain political influence over other nations.


13 posted on 05/14/2005 11:29:48 PM PDT by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorism by visiting johnathangaltfilms.com and jihadwatch.org)
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To: Destro
Check out the anti-American slant CBS News is giving to this news:

U.S. Ally Fires On Its People


14 posted on 05/14/2005 11:37:37 PM PDT by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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To: FreedomCalls
After Bush's stupid speeches in the former Soviet Republics it was a given that his words would come back to bite him in the arse.
15 posted on 05/14/2005 11:42:37 PM PDT by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorism by visiting johnathangaltfilms.com and jihadwatch.org)
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To: FreedomCalls
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16 posted on 05/14/2005 11:43:54 PM PDT by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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To: Destro
After Bush's stupid speeches in the former Soviet Republics it was a given that his words would come back to bite him in the arse.

What words? Did he even mention Uzbekistan any time at all while he was overseas?

17 posted on 05/14/2005 11:45:07 PM PDT by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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To: FreedomCalls

About how we should not sacrifice democracy for stability. Now every example where we have allies that don't meet New York standards of "democracy" will be questioned.


18 posted on 05/14/2005 11:48:03 PM PDT by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorism by visiting johnathangaltfilms.com and jihadwatch.org)
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To: Destro

I believe that the killings were in response to these so-called protesters breaking out extreme islamists from prison, otherwise known as a jailbreak - easy for many to be backseat drivers.


19 posted on 05/14/2005 11:48:57 PM PDT by Pro-Bush (Can't afford Medical care? Thank an illegal alien.)
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To: Destro
"After Bush's stupid speeches in the former Soviet Republics it was a given that his words would come back to bite him in the arse."

LOL! Bush acknowledged and championed the revolutions against the enemies of freedom. Continue to fail at comparisons between uprisings in Muslim and Christian countries.

Destro, if you want an American President's speech to the former Soviet Republic, whose words came back, try reading President Reagan's remarks on June 12, 1987.

20 posted on 05/15/2005 12:13:45 AM PDT by endthematrix (Declare 2005 as the year the battle for freedom from tax slavery!)
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