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Rebuffing Bush, 132 Mayors Embrace Kyoto Rules
NYT ^ | May 14, 2005 | ELI SANDERS

Posted on 05/13/2005 10:06:06 PM PDT by FairOpinion

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To: FairOpinion
On Thursday, Mayor Michael R. Bloomberg brought New York City into the coalition, the latest Republican mayor to join.

This statement is completely and inherently flawed.

61 posted on 05/14/2005 4:55:00 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Not Elected Pope Since 4/19/2005.)
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To: chainsaw
Wrong, the #1 polluter in the world is China.

And, China is/would be exempt from the Kyoto protocol, as is Russia.

62 posted on 05/14/2005 4:56:59 AM PDT by Just A Nobody
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To: Sir Francis Dashwood

You are exactly right, we would be fine with nuclear power. Infact it is the future of energy I believe sooner or later.

The green movements rejection of nuclear power leads me to believe their goal is de-industrialization, not concerns of environmental damage.


63 posted on 05/14/2005 4:57:44 AM PDT by ran15
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To: Smokin' Joe
"The voters elected the mayors, didn't they?"

Indeed. And the voters in any particular city should be willing to accept the responsibility for the mistakes their elected leaders make. But they don't. They continually agitate to have others pay for their blunders.

So far is Kyoto is concerned, I'm sure liberals are counting on having everyone pay for it. After all, the costs involved are astonomical. And the cities mentioned simply cannot pay afford it.

64 posted on 05/14/2005 4:58:30 AM PDT by Reactionary
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To: Reactionary
Make that "pay for it."

Thanks. :)

65 posted on 05/14/2005 4:59:16 AM PDT by Reactionary
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To: Justanobody

It seems like we can't handle the pollution that goes along with manufacturing, so we ban it here, or regulate it to death. So the Chinese just slam in the plants instead.


66 posted on 05/14/2005 5:00:03 AM PDT by ran15
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To: Reactionary
I understood, thanks. I am afraid I have little faith in voters who get their 'knowledge' from the MSM. If all the alphabet newsreaders on my TV reported blue skies and green grass, I'd feel compelled to check.

I have seen an awful lot of badly reported (and obviously misunderstood) science boiled down to slogans for the masses.

Unfortunately, I doubt that most people would adequately understand the implications of Kyoto or any other treaty, simply because they would never hear it on TV.

67 posted on 05/14/2005 5:09:13 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (Grant no power to government you would not want your worst enemies to wield against you.)
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To: chainsaw

I am sure Russia (former USSR) is in the running. Between their disastrous attempts at the oil industry (before US personnel made it over there to work) and Chernobyl, they at least get an honorable mention.


68 posted on 05/14/2005 5:11:17 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (Grant no power to government you would not want your worst enemies to wield against you.)
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To: FairOpinion
"You've got to ask, 'Is it remotely possible that there is a threat?' " he said. "If the answer is yes, you've got to act now."

You've got to ask, 'Is it remotely possible that there is a threat that Saddam Hussein has WMD that he will use (again - remember the murdered Kurds) against the West, thus murdering potentially millions of people? and, is it remotely possible that he is supporting and harboring others who would do the same thing?'

If the answer is yes, you've got to take the Mother F***er out!

69 posted on 05/14/2005 5:29:10 AM PDT by Thom Pain
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To: mcg1969
Is it remotely possible that you could die the next time you get on the road in a car? If the answer is yes, you've got to stop driving now.

Is it remotely possible that your freedom and wealth will be reduced the next time Congress is in session? If the answer is yes, you've got to stop voting now.

As if it would help.

70 posted on 05/14/2005 5:46:21 AM PDT by Hardastarboard
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To: patton

"And by the end of this year the city's power utility, Seattle City Light, will be the only utility in the country with no net emissions of greenhouse gases, the mayor's office said."

omg!! they can be clean without signing a flawed treaty?
they dont need the magic Kyoto wand?


71 posted on 05/14/2005 5:50:18 AM PDT by Casaubon (Internet Research Ninja Masta)
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To: BJungNan
Overproduction of ozone, perhaps? or maybe for destroying ozone with fluorocarbons. With Kyoto, it's just such a fertile environment for suits the choices are endless.
72 posted on 05/14/2005 6:10:54 AM PDT by Colorado Doug
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To: Bonaparte
Even the signatories to it at least have enough sanity to violate its senseless terms.

Those parts were only meant for enforcement against the United States.

73 posted on 05/14/2005 6:13:05 AM PDT by Colorado Doug
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To: FairOpinion

Which is why they are nothing more than mayors.


74 posted on 05/14/2005 6:43:39 AM PDT by conservativecorner
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To: ran15
That 3-mile Island event wasn't what the media and the pseudo-eco-fascists made it out to be. It released only inert Xenon gas and is a far cry safer than Chernobyl could have ever hoped to be.

If the reactors we do have were running at capacity, I'll bet most of the energy supply problems would disappear. California could build two huge ones in the desert, one to supply the Northern state, and another to supply the Southern state. Crisis solved.

What about waste? Doesn't matter... If you don't take the uranium ore out of the ground, it leaches into ground water.

It would be a good idea to store the waste on the moon.
(I think this is why the television show Space 1999 was created - - to discourage the idea. They depicted the moon being blasted off into the nether regions of space by explosions. We know this is not possible. More info-tainment junk science for the unwashed.)

75 posted on 05/14/2005 7:09:30 AM PDT by Sir Francis Dashwood (LET'S ROLL!)
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To: FairOpinion

How many mayors are there in the US?


76 posted on 05/14/2005 7:30:11 AM PDT by processing please hold (Islam and Christianity do not mix ----9-11 taught us that)
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To: Justanobody
And, China is/would be exempt from the Kyoto protocol, as is Russia.

And don't forget India.

77 posted on 05/14/2005 7:31:38 AM PDT by processing please hold (Islam and Christianity do not mix ----9-11 taught us that)
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To: FairOpinion
The headline should read, "132 mayors seeking to buy a clue."

5.56mm

78 posted on 05/14/2005 7:33:07 AM PDT by M Kehoe
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To: patton
You know of a way to turn an engine without burning fuel?

Hydroelectric.

79 posted on 05/14/2005 7:36:10 AM PDT by mcg1969
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To: stylin19a

Maybe they're doing some sort of carbon sequestration program. I would be curious to know myself.


80 posted on 05/14/2005 7:36:36 AM PDT by mcg1969
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