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Virginity or Death! (Ultra-Barf Alert!)
The Nation ^ | 5/12/2005 | Katha Pollitt

Posted on 05/13/2005 7:41:44 AM PDT by Pyro7480

What is it with these right-wing Christians? Faced with a choice between sex and death, they choose death every time. No sex ed or contraception for teens, no sex for the unwed, no condoms for gays, no abortion for anyone--even for that poor 13-year-old pregnant girl in a group home in Florida. I would really like to hear the persuasive argument that this middle-schooler with no home and no family would have been better off giving birth against her will, and that the State of Florida, which totally failed to keep her safe, should have been allowed, against its own laws, to compel this child to bear a child. She was too young to have sex, too young to know her own mind about abortion--but not too young to be forced onto the delivery table for one of the most painful experiences human beings endure, in which the risk of death for her was three times as great as in abortion. Ah, Christian compassion! Christian sadism, more likely. It was the courts that showed humanity when they let the girl terminate her pregnancy.

...[R]ight-wing Christians increasingly reveal their condescending view of women as moral children who need to be kept in line sexually by fear. That's why antichoicers will never answer the call of prochoicers to join them in reducing abortions by making birth control more widely available: They want it to be less available. Their real interest goes way beyond protecting fetuses--it's in keeping sex tied to reproduction to keep women in their place. If preventing abortion was what they cared about, they'd be giving birth control and emergency contraception away on street corners instead of supporting pharmacists who refuse to fill prescriptions and hospitals that don't tell rape victims about the existence of EC.

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Pro-lifers are pro-death!? The Left's insanity never ceases to amaze me.
1 posted on 05/13/2005 7:41:44 AM PDT by Pyro7480
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To: Pyro7480
Faced with a choice between sex and death, they choose death every time.

Abstinence is fatal? Who knew?

2 posted on 05/13/2005 7:43:38 AM PDT by inquest (FTAA delenda est)
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To: St. Johann Tetzel; Coleus; cpforlife.org; NYer

Ping!


3 posted on 05/13/2005 7:44:24 AM PDT by Pyro7480 ("All my own perception of beauty both in majesty and simplicity is founded upon Our Lady." - Tolkien)
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To: Pyro7480

The usual drivel out of the brain dead left.


4 posted on 05/13/2005 7:44:29 AM PDT by Piquaboy (22 year veteran of the Army, Air Force and Navy, Pray for all our military .)
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To: Pyro7480
no abortion for anyone--even for that poor 13-year-old pregnant girl in a group home in Florida. I would really like to hear the persuasive argument that this middle-schooler with no home and no family would have been better off giving birth against her will

I would dearly love to hear their defense againt crushing in the skull and sucking out the brain of an innocent baby. If the girl gives birth it's unpleasant for a few months, but she just gave birth to a baby, if she gets an abortion, it's easy, but you just murdered someone. Besides, the guy should be glad his mom didn't choose to abort him, or take a morning after pill.

5 posted on 05/13/2005 7:45:00 AM PDT by Asphalt (Join the NFL ping list ... All thing football ... FReepmail Asphalt to get on or off)
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To: Pyro7480
Given the choice between virginity and death, there is a middle ground...

Marriage. =]

6 posted on 05/13/2005 7:45:25 AM PDT by Oberon (What does it take to make government shrink?)
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To: Pyro7480
If preventing abortion was what they cared about, they'd be giving birth control and emergency contraception away on street corners

If only in the interest of preventing more Katha Pollits, in the future: I, for one, would actually be willing to consider this. :)

7 posted on 05/13/2005 7:46:00 AM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle ("As a conservative site, Free Republic is pro-G-d, PRO-LIFE..." -- FR founder Jim Robinson)
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She was too young to have sex, ...

But old enough to have the court protect the privacy for the (probably) adult man who got her pregnant.
8 posted on 05/13/2005 7:46:51 AM PDT by Pan_Yan (All grey areas are fabrications.)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

What they are unwilling to admit is that they need abortion if birth control fails.


9 posted on 05/13/2005 7:47:06 AM PDT by Pyro7480 ("All my own perception of beauty both in majesty and simplicity is founded upon Our Lady." - Tolkien)
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To: inquest

The deaths caused by AIDS alone, a byproduct of leftist, everything goes thinking, should make this woman at least take a breath once in a while. And the beginning of the article is mind-numbing for its bigotry. Can you imagine any other group being refered to in this way? What is it with these Jews? What is it with these blacks?


10 posted on 05/13/2005 7:50:41 AM PDT by jwalburg (If I have not seen as far as others, it is because of the giants standing on my shoulders.)
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To: Pyro7480

The Nation. Latrina Van den Hooters. Yuk.


11 posted on 05/13/2005 7:53:08 AM PDT by tumblindice ("Moe, Larry--the cheeze! Moe, Larry--the cheeze!")
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No sex ed or contraception for teens

No. Most are opposed to sexual indoctrination masquarading as sex ed. And they want teens to BUY THEIR OWN contraception instead of taxpayers paying for it.

12 posted on 05/13/2005 7:53:39 AM PDT by Phantom Lord (Advantages are taken, not handed out)
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Death is what that 13 year olds baby got.

Cool isn't that?


13 posted on 05/13/2005 7:55:21 AM PDT by funkywbr
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To: Pyro7480

Certainly a little research on the part of the author would
have provided all the refutation of his claims that is necessary. It's ideas such as "Teens can have an abortion and they shouldn't have to tell their parents" and the idea of killing babies in the name of "convience" that is driving the anti-abortion setiments. A signifigant majority of christians believe that abortion, when considered appropiate, is acceptable. (i.e. abortion after a rape, etc.)
This articles author is simply attempting to use shock tactics to prevent the discussion into an us against them mentality.


14 posted on 05/13/2005 7:56:15 AM PDT by UStildeath (Neurosis=Building castles in the sky, Psycosis=Living in them)
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To: Phantom Lord

"in which the risk of death for her was three times as great as in abortion."

Where did she get this tid-bit?


15 posted on 05/13/2005 7:56:42 AM PDT by DesignerChick
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To: UStildeath

Dang it
prevent = prevert


16 posted on 05/13/2005 7:57:52 AM PDT by UStildeath (Neurosis=Building castles in the sky, Psycosis=Living in them)
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"What they are unwilling to admit is that they need abortion if birth control fails."

They need abortion because it is a very successful and lucrative BUSINESS.


17 posted on 05/13/2005 7:58:38 AM PDT by Jo Nuvark
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To: Pyro7480

If abortion is RIGHT and NOT wrong, then nothing can be WRONG.


18 posted on 05/13/2005 7:58:57 AM PDT by kjenerette (Jenerette for Senate - www.jenerette.com - U.S. Army Desert Storm)
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To: Piquaboy
The usual drivel out of the brain dead left.

Actually, I think this is rather exceptional drivel so far as drivel goes.

19 posted on 05/13/2005 7:59:45 AM PDT by FormerLib (Kosova: "land stolen from Serbs and given to terrorist killers in a futile attempt to appease them.")
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To: Pyro7480
Yeah, don't lay that on us right wing christians. I take offense to that. Its the fundies that do this. I have nothing against participants in premarital sex, and definately nothing against birth control. I mean PLEASE, use it. Better than continuing the cycle of professional couch potatoes.
abstinence may be a first choice, but if you're gonna do it, then control it. That's why i liked my sex-ed teachers. every last one of them harped on abstinence being the only 100% sure way of not getting pregnant. BUT if you're gonna do it, please use protection.
20 posted on 05/13/2005 8:00:04 AM PDT by absolootezer0 ("My God, why have you forsaken us.. no wait, its the liberals that have forsaken you... my bad")
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