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Officer kills armed man in wheelchair
Charlotte Observer ^ | Thu, May. 12, 2005 | GARY L. WRIGHT

Posted on 05/12/2005 11:02:33 AM PDT by jb6

Police say 67-year-old pointed gun, threatened them

GARY L. WRIGHT

Staff Writer

A Charlotte-Mecklenburg police officer shot and killed a 67-year-old man in a wheelchair early Wednesday morning after authorities said the victim pointed a handgun at officers and threatened them.

Police wouldn't say how many shots were fired or where the gunfire struck Alexander Ehrenburg.

Police spokesman Keith Bridges told reporters that Ehrenburg, a double amputee, was shot at his home on Amity Springs Drive near Sharon Amity Road after he pointed a handgun at police officers and refused to put it down. Ehrenburg did not fire at the officers, Bridges said.

"He had a handgun in his lap and brought the gun up when the officers were at the door," Bridges said.

Bridges said police officers made "commands, requests and pleas" for Ehrenburg to put down the weapon.

"Our goal was for this to end peacefully," Bridges said.

Bridges wouldn't say what kind of weapon Ehrenburg had. "It was a handgun he waved at the officers," he said.

Bridges described Ehrenburg as "a barricaded gunman" who posed a threat to police officers.

Police are conducting criminal and internal affairs investigations into the fatal shooting. Bridges said investigators will try to determine whether the shooting was a "suicide by cop" -- a term used to describe a confrontation in which a suspect intends for police to use deadly force.

Ehrenburg's wife, who was in Poland, was notified of her husband's death Wednesday morning. Bridges said police contacted the U.S. Embassy in Warsaw and that an Embassy official told Ehrenburg's wife about his death.

Don King, who lives four doors from the scene of the fatal shooting, didn't hear all the commotion outside Ehrenburg's condo last night. He was shocked when he woke up Wednesday morning, saw TV trucks and crews outside his condo and learned of his neighbor's death.

King said Ehrenburg was an immigrant from Russia. "Alex came from a place where fear of police was pervasive," he said. "To get killed in his own home by police, that's a cruel fate. What a tragedy for everybody -- for Alex and the police. "

King said Ehrenburg was friendly and outgoing.

"Alex was an icon in the community," he said. "You could always see him riding around in his electric wheelchair. He'd frequently stop to talk to people."

The fatal shooting occurred more than three hours after firefighters and police arrived at the condominium complex and confronted what they described as an armed man in a wheelchair inside the home.

Bridges said a Salisbury physician, who had been talking to Ehrenburg, had contacted police and asked them to check on the man's welfare. The doctor said he was concerned after the phone conversation with Ehrenburg, police said.

Here's what police say happened when police, firefighters and Medic personnel responded at the condominium shortly after 9:30 Tuesday night:

When no one would come to the door, firefighters forced their way into the home. Once inside, they were confronted by the man in the wheelchair, who was armed with a gun and pointing the weapon at them, police said. The firefighters left the house.

The police department's SWAT team was called, and negotiations were attempted but cut short when the resident hung up his phone shortly before 11 p.m. The phone was later disconnected.

"He kept hanging the phone up on us," Bridges said.

Negotiators used loudspeakers and other means to resume communications but were unsuccessful.

Shortly before 1 a.m., SWAT officers opened the home's door and threw in a portable phone in hopes of re-establishing communication.

The man in the wheelchair raised a handgun from his lap and pointed it at officers, police said. He refused to drop his gun as officers ordered and continued to threaten officers with the weapon, police said.

Charlotte-Mecklenburg police officer Chris Kimbell fired his weapon, striking the man. Ehrenburg was pronounced dead shortly after his arrival at Carolinas Medical Center.

Kimbell, a 10-year veteran, has been placed on administrative duty -- standard procedure while the criminal and internal affairs investigations are under way.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; US: North Carolina
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To: FreedomHasACost

No, because I might be out dancing. Or out visiting. Or not wanting to answer the phone.


381 posted on 05/13/2005 2:12:53 PM PDT by Old Mountain man (Extremism in defense of liberty is no vice!)
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To: jb6

Interrogating innocent, law-abiding citizens is FAR less dangerous than actually preventing crime. Heck, you can always claim you saved a cop's life that day.


382 posted on 05/13/2005 2:17:57 PM PDT by LibertarianInExile (<-- sick of faux-conservatives who want federal government intervention for 'conservative things.')
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To: FreedomHasACost

The point isn't that he couldn't get to the door, it's that he probably didn't get there fast enough.


383 posted on 05/13/2005 2:19:45 PM PDT by jb6 (Truth == Christ)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum; jb6; Graycliff; Old Mountain man
E. Pluribus Unum wrote: People who misuse guns are trash and deserve whatever happens to them by whoever does it.

WSOCTV.com
Standoff Killing Of Adoption Advocate Stuns Friends

POSTED: 12:28 a.m. EDT May 12, 2005

Charlotte, NC -- A state legislator and other parents said Wednesday night they were shocked to hear about the death of Alex Ehrenburg, shot to death by a police SWAT officer during a standoff in east Charlotte.

Police said Ehrenburg barricaded himself inside his house and pointed a gun at the officer before being shot.

State representative Jeff Barnhart of Cabarrus County said he was saddened by the death of Ehrenburg who helped arrange adoptions for Barnhart and many other parents.

Ehrenburg worked for a group which placed children from Belarus with local families.

Ehrenburg's wife was in Belarus Wednesday working on an adoption.

A family friend who is a doctor said Ehrenburg suffered from kidney failure which sent toxins circulating throughout his body, causing hallicinations when they reached his brain.


384 posted on 05/13/2005 2:24:47 PM PDT by MRMEAN (Nuke the border!)
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To: MRMEAN

Sick man. He could have been taken down by non lethal means.


385 posted on 05/13/2005 2:29:23 PM PDT by Old Mountain man (Extremism in defense of liberty is no vice!)
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To: MRMEAN
A family friend who is a doctor said Ehrenburg suffered from kidney failure which sent toxins circulating throughout his body, causing hallicinations when they reached his brain.

Question from Philosophy 101: If somebody is shot by a barricaded man with toxins circulating throughout his body because of kidney failure, is the person shot any less dead because the perpetrator was suffering from hallucinations?

386 posted on 05/13/2005 2:32:01 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Controlled substance laws created the federal health care monopoly and fund terrorism.)
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To: Old Mountain man; jb6
I'm sorry I really can't discuss this further because should be sleeping now so I can work later.
It seems to me that they were reasonable in going in to check on the well being of this man and when faced with a pointed gun you either shoot or don't. The later being a decision to let them have the first shot at you.
I was not there so I cannot say if this was handled well.
I do have to say if an officer comes to check on you please ask them to leave rather than pointing a gun at them. It may save alot of people alot of anguish.
That's it from me---you may have the last word!
387 posted on 05/13/2005 3:00:15 PM PDT by FreedomHasACost (Life is too short, make yours count!)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
Point is that he was in his house minding his business he didn't call the cops - someone else did. They talked for more than 2 hours on the phone - don't you suspect that he told them to go away??

If the SWAT team had not been there the old man couldn't have pointed a gun at them. Why didn't they simply leave?

388 posted on 05/13/2005 3:00:37 PM PDT by sandydipper (Less government is best government!)
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To: sandydipper
Point is that he was in his house minding his business he didn't call the cops - someone else did. They talked for more than 2 hours on the phone - don't you suspect that he told them to go away??

So if I am in my own house minding my own business beating my wife and someone else calls the cops and I tell them to go away, they are supposed to do it?

The cops were called on a complaint of a man with a gun menacing medical emergency personnel.

Do you dispute that?

389 posted on 05/13/2005 5:44:51 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Controlled substance laws created the federal health care monopoly and fund terrorism.)
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To: Old Mountain man
The cops and the firefighters have a lawful obligation to protect human life. That's what they were initially called to do, and it's a REASONABLE SEARCH given that motive, and fully in accordance with both the US and NC constitutions.

Where things got screwed up is the guy told them in so many words to leave him alone.

They should have done just that!

390 posted on 05/13/2005 6:21:02 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: jb6

You don't need a warrant to enter on a welfare call. The man's personal safety was in doubt. The fact that he pointed a gun at the firemen, and then the police is why he's dead, most likely just as he wanted.


391 posted on 05/13/2005 6:22:42 PM PDT by SALChamps03
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To: Old Mountain man
He asked his doctor for help. His doctor notified the emergency people. They went to help.

End of story regarding Constitutional rights.

He was unwilling or unable to answer the door ~ we don't know which. The emergency aid folks had a lawful obligation to enter on the call, and did so. He held a gun on them.

Now things get murky. They left but they reported the event to the cops. The cops came and shot the guy.

The cops may or may not have had a right to shoot him, but they did. His widow may get a handsome settlement. Some of the single guys here might like her name and phone number eh?!

392 posted on 05/13/2005 6:24:57 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: MRMEAN
Those "toxins" probably account for some of the posts on this thread.

Time for dialysis guys!

393 posted on 05/13/2005 6:27:39 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Durus

That is really not the context of this event. This is not a case of a man sitting at home and suddenly the police appear for no reason. The police had a legitimate reason to be there. Look, this is tragic, but the man is at fault for pointing the gun at the officer. A doctor would not just call the police out to someone's house without a legitimate belief that something was amiss. Perhaps his doctor thought the man was intending to kill himself. Had he not pointed the gun, he would be alive today. The police are authorized and may legally enter someone's home when they have reason to believe that someone inside is in danger, either because of a suicidal intent, or because of other reasons. You can't see the forest for the trees.


394 posted on 05/13/2005 6:28:07 PM PDT by SALChamps03
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To: Old Mountain man

The police had a lawful reason. A call for help was made.


395 posted on 05/13/2005 6:29:22 PM PDT by SALChamps03
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To: jb6

They called him several times and he hung up. Apparently it was believed he intended to do himself harm.


396 posted on 05/13/2005 6:30:30 PM PDT by SALChamps03
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To: muawiyah
Those "toxins" probably account for some of the posts on this thread.

You got that right.

397 posted on 05/13/2005 6:38:54 PM PDT by MRMEAN (Nuke the border!)
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To: SALChamps03

So, where did you get your legal training? Stalin U?


398 posted on 05/13/2005 7:56:41 PM PDT by Old Mountain man (Extremism in defense of liberty is no vice!)
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To: SALChamps03

Well, isn't that nice. Next time I want somebody killed, I will just call the police and ask for a welfare check.


399 posted on 05/13/2005 7:58:07 PM PDT by Old Mountain man (Extremism in defense of liberty is no vice!)
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To: muawiyah

Oh, I get it now! Call a doctor and instantly you surrender your constitutional rights and police surrender all their obligations under the law. Okay, makes perfect sense.

In a nightmare it does.


400 posted on 05/13/2005 8:00:09 PM PDT by Old Mountain man (Extremism in defense of liberty is no vice!)
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