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Vegans face abuse charges
East Valley Tribune ^ | 12 May, 2005 | Irene Hsiao

Posted on 05/12/2005 9:34:27 AM PDT by HungarianGypsy

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To: Frank_Discussion
This pisses me off beyond the scale!

My argument exactly. Every time I argue with some sort of vegetarian I always smile, tap my sharp canines and incisors and tell them that those teeth are for ripping and tearing flesh. The back teeth that are flat and leveraged more closely to the mouths' fulcrum and muscles are for crushing and chewing fibrous matter.

Since they are usually lefties, I don't bring G_d into the discussion. However, I almost always point out that evolution separated the meat eaters from the plant only eaters. Homo erectus won that battle for survival due to adaptability to their food gathering environment. The Neanderthals (with their flat cow-like teeth) didn't make it. The second evolutionary argument is to ask them why our gizzard (appendix) is inert. Due to the fact that we cannot digest cellulose, a plant only diet is ridiculous. Plus, there is a very good reason that animal fat tastes sooooooo good.

That said I've only on rare occasions seen a healthy looking or acting vegetarian.

221 posted on 05/12/2005 10:45:17 AM PDT by numberonepal (Don't Even Think About Treading On Me)
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To: RockinRight

That was me last year - a nasty hard freeze after the tree had flowered. Perfect weather this year, just no bees. Two years in a row w/o home grown peaches... I'm very sad.


222 posted on 05/12/2005 10:47:13 AM PDT by green iguana
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To: agrace

No problemo. </john connor>


223 posted on 05/12/2005 10:47:19 AM PDT by Frank_Discussion (May the wings of Liberty never lose a feather!)
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To: numberonepal

You can't really bring God into a discussion with a vegan because in the garden of Eden, Adam and Eve didn't eat meat.


224 posted on 05/12/2005 10:48:04 AM PDT by cyborg (Serving fresh, hot Anti-opus since 18 April 2005)
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To: RockinRight

My wife is 5'5". When I first met her she was 105 and looked HOT. She still does!


225 posted on 05/12/2005 10:48:22 AM PDT by RobRoy (Child support and maintenence (alimony) are what we used to call indentured slavery)
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To: numberonepal

Oddly enough, the only time it seems that vegans care about the Bible is when discussing Genesis. Otherwise, they use esoteric texts like Essene Book of Peace.


226 posted on 05/12/2005 10:48:54 AM PDT by cyborg (Serving fresh, hot Anti-opus since 18 April 2005)
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To: green iguana

Well, in Ohio a good peach crop 3 of every 5 years is doing well.


227 posted on 05/12/2005 10:49:01 AM PDT by RockinRight (Conservatism is common sense, liberalism is just senseless.)
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To: Frank_Discussion

{{{Hugs}}} sweetie.


228 posted on 05/12/2005 10:54:52 AM PDT by najida (OK, so, ya see, uh huh.....I have this stress problem....maybe it's living without running water.)
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To: HungarianGypsy

hippies suck


229 posted on 05/12/2005 10:55:01 AM PDT by TC Rider (The United States Constitution © 1791. All Rights Reserved.)
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To: najida

Thank Ya.


230 posted on 05/12/2005 10:56:11 AM PDT by Frank_Discussion (May the wings of Liberty never lose a feather!)
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To: HungarianGypsy

Many vegans are as skinny as a stick. That is definitely not a healthy way to be.


231 posted on 05/12/2005 10:58:05 AM PDT by GOP_1900AD (Stomping on "PC," destroying the Left, and smoking out faux "conservatives" - Take Back The GOP!)
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To: GovernmentShrinker
But a no animal products diet is absolutely not capable of sustaining good health.

Sure it is.Just ask anyone who has or knows someone with PKU.We DO NOT need meat(although I love it dearly).Two of my children are phynelketonuric.That means their bodies cannot break down the amino acids in protein.Meat is very high in protein(well except for bacon fat),so they cannot eat any meat.Nor can they eat or drink any dairy product.They even have to watch some of the vegetables because so many contain lots of protein.Potatos and english peas come to mind. (My daughter,11 years old can only have 6 grams of protein per day.Look at some of the nutritional values of some foods when you get a chance.One slice of bread is around 3 grams)

That said,they are extremely healthy.My 11 year old daughter is about 100lbs(she's tall) and my 1.5 year old son is around 25 lbs.They are measured throughtout the year to make sure they are growing as they should be.They're usually growing above the normal percentile.Something else is wrong with this picture.These kids are way under fed or have some type of disorder.It's not the lack of meat or dairy products.

232 posted on 05/12/2005 11:02:21 AM PDT by quack
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To: cyborg

Ruth Chris' steaks are very good but the service sucks.


233 posted on 05/12/2005 11:06:47 AM PDT by HuntsvilleTxVeteran (Lord Love a Duck MOLLY MAUK)
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To: Frank_Discussion

Me, too. It's about moderation, too. My sister tried vegetarian for a year or 2 with her kids. No one could talk her out of it. She didn't want 'fat' kids. Only skim milk after age 1, no meat. They were pale, thin, anemic and frequently sick. Finally her doctor laid down the law with her, the kids needed meat, and 2% milk till age 2 and regular snacks. Her youngest, a healthy chubby preschooler, clearly benefits from her new way of feeding them.


234 posted on 05/12/2005 11:07:06 AM PDT by fortunecookie
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To: SkyPilot

Liberalism is a mental illness.
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You don't know what their political ideology is. They homeschool and many homeschoolers are conservative. Some Conservative Christians practice holistic medicine (Amish to some extent). I'm a Vegetarian, but you'll be hard pressed to find anyone more, well I won't say Conservative, cuz Conservatism seems to be dead these days, but you know what i mean....

Veganism is probably unhealthy for children, pregnant mothers etc.. but I don't think vegetarianism is neccesarily unhealthy, although I wouldn't risk it with my wife or kids in that way.

In this case, I am actually leaning towards siding with the family over the state. I'd need more info to be sure though....


235 posted on 05/12/2005 11:08:44 AM PDT by traviskicks (http://www.neoperspectives.com/charterschoolsexplained.htm)
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To: AnAmericanMother
although our pediatrician disagreed (said there were certain nutrients that growing children needed that could only be obtained from meat protein)

See post 232.Your pediatrician is misinformed,as was ours.

236 posted on 05/12/2005 11:10:59 AM PDT by quack
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To: traviskicks

I'm siding towards the family as well, only because this isn't the first the CPS has insisted a person's lifestyle is dangerous for children and it turned out NOT to be. There's a family in Florida who had their children taken away based on their diet and then found out the reason why the baby died was because of a genetic defect.


237 posted on 05/12/2005 11:11:07 AM PDT by cyborg (Serving fresh, hot Anti-opus since 18 April 2005)
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To: fortunecookie

That's the thing about liberals and their experimentation - they'll do it to their kids and rationalize away a 12-pound 3 yo girl as OK, or at least it couldn't be THEIR fault!


238 posted on 05/12/2005 11:13:24 AM PDT by Frank_Discussion (May the wings of Liberty never lose a feather!)
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To: Knitting A Conundrum; cyborg

I, too, had raw milk as a kid, but I didn't care for it. I, too, have discovered, as was always suspected by my ped and me, that I am lactose intolerant. A local dairy makes a great acidolphus milk I buy occasionally. I love yogurt and can also tolerate certain cheeses, the part-skim, low moisture seem to work best in small amounts. Kefir is good, too, but hard to find where I am. I still love ice cream now and then, but it doesn't love me!


239 posted on 05/12/2005 11:13:52 AM PDT by fortunecookie
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To: RockinRight
I've met a few people that just don't like meat and never have. I almost wonder if it is because their bodies know that they don't tolerate it well.

I tolerate it well, it's that I have always been kind of grossed out by it. Maybe because I knew it was a dead animal and looking at the bones and the veins turned me off. And that goes for beef, chicken, and fish. It's funny because I won't eat soy burgers or anything else that pretends to meat. Just really hate the taste and texture, I guess.

240 posted on 05/12/2005 11:14:29 AM PDT by A Ruckus of Dogs
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