1 posted on
05/11/2005 6:39:27 PM PDT by
neverdem
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To: neverdem
Bumper sticker definition of a conservative:
Both a social and fiscal conservative.
Deviation from either = RINO especially when portraying oneself as a "conservative."
Media will label pro-life/fiscal liberals as conservatives i.e., GWB.
Pro-abort/fiscal conservatives are media labeled as thoughtful moderates.
I know this is oversimplified, but hopefully communicative.
To: neverdem
"Goldberg funny. Me kill him last"
3 posted on
05/11/2005 6:54:45 PM PDT by
Oztrich Boy
(It is dangerous to be right when the government is wrong. - Voltaire)
To: neverdem; Carry_Okie
"Id call them eco-cons but that might imply environmental conservatives, another constituency feeling its oats these days."How 'boutcha there Mr. Carry_Okie??? Ya got a copy? Git back!!! (grin)
4 posted on
05/11/2005 6:57:09 PM PDT by
SierraWasp
(The "Heritage Oaks" in the Sierra-Nevada Conservancy are full of parasitic GovernMental mistletoe!!!)
To: neverdem
Conservative:
Learns from the past. Thinks for him/herself.
5 posted on
05/11/2005 6:58:42 PM PDT by
Eddie01
To: neverdem
One thing a conservative isn't is a blind follower.
7 posted on
05/11/2005 7:02:24 PM PDT by
cripplecreek
(Anyone who thinks we believe Hillary on any issue is truly a moron.)
To: neverdem
George Bush is a radical Marxist in the arena of fiscal policy. The offical OMB Budget tables prove that point.
George Bush is a moderate on international affairs. It is a shame he will not get out of the UN, that he abandons Taiwan while pushing for a Palestinaian state, and he, of course, refuses to guard our borders.
Actually, let's take that back--George Bush is NOT a moderate but leans heavily left on international affairs/national security.
Don't anybody here attempt to slot George Bush in the "conservative" category.
10 posted on
05/11/2005 7:19:29 PM PDT by
Dont_Tread_On_Me_888
(John Kerry--three fake Purple Hearts. George Bush--one real heart of gold.)
To: neverdem
American conservatives want to change all sorts of things, while liberals are keen on keeping the status quo (at least until they get into power). This point is key. Buckley style "status quo" conservatism is defeatist not and useful when we have the majority. We must now pursue a proactive agenda, even if that just means rolling back the welfare state. Buckley's definition of a conservative as "standing athwart history, yelling stop" buys into the leftist idea that socialism is "progress" and conservatives just want to stop "progress." Now that conservatives are in charge, we need to see some progress in the war against the socialism of the left. That means dismantling their welfare state.
Jesus was no conservative
Of course he was.
"Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. I tell you the truth, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished."
I dont think Jesus is going to have useful advice about how to fix Social Security.
Conservative don't want to fix Social Security. We want to destroy it.
To: neverdem; Grampa Dave; Dog Gone; Southack; snopercod; Lurker; Lando Lincoln; Carry_Okie; ...
Me thinks Mr. Goldenburger be's all tangled up in his turbid terminology!!! Today we find Newt Gingrich having a joint (news conference) with Hitlery! And Monday, the Impeachment prosecutor calling the Nuclear Option far too radical! Reagan's appointees Kennedy and that AZ O'CONnor woman lookin around at other nations opinions before applying our own CONSTITUTIONAL considerations!
Personally, I like to think of the SierraWaspman as a "Considerate Conservative!" One who considers all this Liberal, government growth a total waste of American time and monetary resources!!! So, all things considered I want it to stop so's we can all be left alone a little more and get some relief!!!
Most of all, with the exception of the Cold War, I wish to conserve the greatest of American traditions from the days of my youth and turn back most of the crappola that's been imposed on us by liberal Demonicrats since Kennedy was assassinated!!! Or maybe to before Ike anointed the Governor of CA, Earl Warren to the US Supreme Court!!!
Like My computer, I wish fervently for the ability to push the command to restore the essence of goodness that pervaded this great nation from the time of "Happy Days," American Graffetti" and "Mayberry RFD!"
Now I want some smartalec to come on here and try to tell me what's wrong with that!!!
12 posted on
05/11/2005 7:23:48 PM PDT by
SierraWasp
(The "Heritage Oaks" in the Sierra-Nevada Conservancy are full of parasitic GovernMental mistletoe!!!)
To: neverdem
Conservatives lead, liberals follow.
14 posted on
05/11/2005 7:30:34 PM PDT by
WestVirginiaRebel
(Carnac: A siren, a baby and a liberal. Answer: Name three things that whine.)
To: neverdem
Listen to Democratic politicians when they wax righteous about social policy. Invariably it goes something like this: I simply reject the notion that in a good society X should have to come at the expense of Y. X can be security and Y can be civil liberties. Or X can be food safety and Y can be the cost to the pocketbook of poor people. Whatever X and Y are, the underlying premise is that in a healthy society we do not have tradeoffs between good things. In healthy societies all good things join hands and walk up the hillside singing Id like to buy the world a coke.
He hit the nail on the head. Which just further underscores the idea that liberalism is a mental disorder: it's a rejection of reality. It's a failure to mature.
And it's just sad.
15 posted on
05/11/2005 7:33:47 PM PDT by
halieus
(God cannot give us a happiness and peace apart from Himself, because it is not there.)
To: neverdem
16 posted on
05/11/2005 7:36:43 PM PDT by
rattrap
To: neverdem
Liberals tend to follow their flesh. Conservatives tend to follow God.
To: neverdem
More people instead define their affiliation based upon what they are NOT. For Republicans, Democrats are seen as larcenist, armtwisting, nosy, weak, libertine, and iconoclastic. For Democrats, Republicans are seen as greedy, militaristic, thoughtless, brutish, sanctimonious, and traditionalist.
If, e.g., insatiable larceny bothers you more than mindless traditionalism then you are more likely to identify with Republicans.
It's less what you ARE than what you are NOT.
18 posted on
05/11/2005 7:43:25 PM PDT by
beavus
To: neverdem
(I prefer Russell Kirks but these will do): ... 2. a preference for liberty over equality.
That IS Russell Kirk's.
20 posted on
05/11/2005 7:51:27 PM PDT by
IronJack
To: neverdem
Whittaker Chambers said he could not qualify as a conservative he called himself a "man of the right" because he could never jettison his faith in the dialectical nature of history. -Jonah GoldbergThe man could find no comfort in contradiction.
To: neverdem
What is a Conservative?
A Conservative can be anybody you meet on the street. It is an intellectual approach to life rather than emotional.
Jammer
24 posted on
05/11/2005 7:59:26 PM PDT by
JamminJAY
(This space for rent)
To: neverdem
26 posted on
05/11/2005 8:12:08 PM PDT by
TomasUSMC
(FIGHT LIKE WW2, FINISH LIKE WW2. FIGHT LIKE NAM, FINISH LIKE NAM.)
To: neverdem
Conservatism is an understanding to the effect the best life is one that reveres the wisdom of the ages and recoils from change simply for the sake of change. We must look to the past for guidance in determining how far change can proceed with the least amount of harm to individuals and the welfare of society. In a nutshell, that is what differentiates conservatism from all other isms. Its not that we necessarily fear the future - its just we don't want a future where we never seem to keep in mind all the lessons that have served us well. Call it a pragmatic philosophy of life. To wit, life is messy and there will never be an elegant solution that will tidy it all up for people - nor would we want to. Its that messiness that keeps life interesting.
(Denny Crane: "Sometimes you can only look for answers from God and failing that... and Fox News".)
37 posted on
05/11/2005 9:25:04 PM PDT by
goldstategop
(In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
To: neverdem
The best definition of a conservative was given to me by a Mormon Ph.D Chemist (i share his title and degree but not his faith). He said:
A conservative is a person who lives by time-tested values rather than experimental ones.
I've never heard a better summary than that.
46 posted on
05/11/2005 10:26:48 PM PDT by
Rytwyng
(I'm still fond of the United States. I just can't find it. -- Fred Reed)
To: neverdem; redgolum
What is a conservative?
Someone who realizes instinctively that liberal secular humanism is stupid and silly.
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