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What Is a “Conservative”?
NRO ^ | May 11, 2005 | Jonah Goldberg

Posted on 05/11/2005 6:39:25 PM PDT by neverdem

Edited on 05/11/2005 8:46:27 PM PDT by Sidebar Moderator. [history]

May 11, 2005, 2:49 p.m.

What Is a "Conservative"?
We’re comfortable with contradiction.

Everyone seems to be coming up with their own variants of conservatism these days. Two friends of mine have come out with two of the more famous examples: “South Park conservatism” and “crunchy conservatism.” There’s also “big-government conservatism” which, until recently, would have seemed like more of an epithet than adjective. And, of course, there’s the ideology allegedly held by those perfidious bagel-snarfing rasputins, the neocons. And there are the “theocons” — which has the benefit of rhyming with neocons but presumably implies less bagel-snarfing and more polite eating of noodle salad on paper plates. I recently got into a debate about economic conservatives with Jonathan Chait, though he suffered from the delusion that all conservatives fell into this category. I’d call them eco-cons but that might imply environmental conservatives, another constituency feeling its oats these days. Andrew Sullivan recently unleashed upon the earth an essay about conservatives of faith and conservatives of doubt. He normally calls faith-cons theocons (especially if they oppose gay marriage) but, to date, he hasn’t called the other camp the skepti-cons, perhaps because that sounds too much like a new camp of villains among the Transformers.

And of course there are the more traditional factions in the Great Hall of the Right (I imagine a crowd of generals and aides-de-camp in different uniforms crowded around a giant map of liberalism barking at each other over strategy): libertarians, Burkeans, Hayekians, and so on. Some camps are so small they must wait outside in the foyer, beseeching the brass to let them into the strategy sessions, like partisans who wish to be treated like full-blown allies. Other camps are of such dubious vintage that they have to be kicked out from time to time because it’s not clear where their true loyalties lie. The merits of the case notwithstanding, this is what happened to the happy warriors battling under the flag of Randianism.

So What is a Conservative?

I’ve been wrestling with this for a long time and I don’t pretend to have a perfect or definitive answer. William F. Buckley Jr., employing a richer experience with the subject and a far, far better mind, tried this in his brilliant essay “Notes Toward an Empirical Definition of Conservatism.” I don’t intend to revisit all of the points he made there, but if you haven’t read it hie thee to a bookstore.*

From the beginning, American conservatives have been trying to answer this question definitively to almost no one’s satisfaction (which is why Buckley said he was offering mere “notes toward” a definition). Part of the problem is that the more obvious the answer the less satisfactory it is for the purposes of discussing contemporary politics (which is why Buckley put the word “empirical” in his title). To say a conservative is someone who wishes to conserve is technically correct but practically useless. “Liberals” these days are in many respects more conservative than “conservatives.” American conservatives want to change all sorts of things, while liberals are keen on keeping the status quo (at least until they get into power). The most doctrinaire Communists in the Soviet Politburo were routinely called “conservatives” by Kremlinologists.

As I’ve written many times here, part of the problem is that a conservative in America is a liberal in the classical sense — because the institutions conservatives seek to preserve are liberal institutions. This is why Hayek explicitly exempted American conservatism from his essay “Why I am Not a Conservative.” The conservatives he disliked were mostly continental thinkers who liked the marriage of Church and State, hereditary aristocracies, overly clever cheese, and the rest. The conservatives he liked were Burke, the American founders, Locke et al.

This is a point critics of so-called “theocons” like to make, even if they don’t always fully realize they’re making it. They think the rise of politically conservative religious activists is anti-conservative because it smells anti-liberal. Two conservatives of British descent who’ve been making that case lately are Andrew Sullivan and our own John Derbyshire. I think the fact that they’re British is an important factor. British conservatives, God love ‘em, are typically opponents of all enthusiasms, particularly of the religious and political variety. Personally, I’m very sympathetic to this outlook (Some may recall my Inactivist Manifesto). And it seems to me patently obvious that religion and conservatism aren’t necessarily partners. Put it this way, Jesus was no conservative — and there endeth the lesson.

What isn’t Conservative?

But that spins us back to the same point Hayek was making. Conservatism in its most naked form is amoral. It all depends on what you’re conserving. A true revolutionary in a truly decent and humane society is almost surely going to be a fool, an ass, a tyrant, or, most likely, all three. A conservative in a truly evil regime is even more likely to be the same. Hence, it seems to me, that no person can call himself a Christian if he isn’t in at least some tiny way a conservative because to be a Christian is to conserve some part of the lessons or teachings of that revolutionary from 2,000 years ago.

It also needs to be said that you don’t really have to be a free-marketer or capitalist to be a conservative. There are vast swaths of life that one may wish to conserve that are constantly being uprooted, paved over, or dismantled by the market. As a practical matter, there are serious problems with trying to protect things from market forces. Protecting horse-and-buggy society from the automobile may be a conservative instinct, but in order to translate your instinct into practice you may have to do some pretty un-conservative (and tyrannical) things. But, in principle, if conservatism implies a resistance to change than it seems to me opposing the profound changes free enterprise imposes on society is a conservative impulse.

So all of this is preamble to a humble, not entirely original, suggestion about what defines a conservative. I don’t pretend to think that it is definitive, but the more I think about it, I think any definitive definition would have to take the notion into account:

Comfort with contradiction

I mean this in the broadest metaphysical sense and the narrowest practical way. Think of any leftish ideology and at its core you will find a faith that circles can be closed, conflicts resolved. Marxism held that in a truly socialist society, contradictions would be destroyed. Freudianism led the Left to the idea that the conflicts between the inner and outer self were the cause of unnecessary repressions. Dewey believed that society could be made whole if we jettisoned dogma and embraced a natural, organic understanding of the society where everyone worked together. This was an Americanized version of a Germany idea, where concepts of the Volkgeist — spirit of the people — had been elevated to the point where society was seen to have its own separate spirit. All of this comes in big bunches from Hegel who, after all, had his conflicting thesis and antithesis merging into a glorious thesis. (It’s worth noting that Whittaker Chambers said he could not qualify as a conservative — he called himself a “man of the right” — because he could never jettison his faith in the dialectical nature of history.)

But move away from philosophy and down to earth. Liberals and leftists are constantly denouncing “false choices” of one kind or another. In our debate, Jonathan Chait kept hinting, hoping, and haranguing that — one day — we could have a socialized healthcare system without any tradeoffs of any kind. Environmentalists loathe the introduction of free-market principles into the policy-making debate because, as Steven Landsburg puts it, economics is the science of competing preferences. Pursuing some good things might cost us other good things. But environmentalists reject the very idea. They believe that all good things can go together and that anything suggesting otherwise is a false choice.

Listen to Democratic politicians when they wax righteous about social policy. Invariably it goes something like this: “I simply reject the notion that in a good society X should have to come at the expense of Y.” X can be security and Y can be civil liberties. Or X can be food safety and Y can be the cost to the pocketbook of poor people. Whatever X and Y are, the underlying premise is that in a healthy society we do not have tradeoffs between good things. In healthy societies all good things join hands and walk up the hillside singing I’d like to buy the world a coke.

Think about why the Left is obsessed with hypocrisy and authenticity. The former is the great evil, the latter the closest we can get to saintliness. Hypocrisy implies a contradiction between the inner and outer selves. That’s a Freudian no-no in and of itself. But even worse, hypocrisy suggests that others are wrong for behaving the way they do. Hypocrites act one way and behave another. Whenever a conservative is exposed as a “hypocrite” the behavior — Limbaugh’s drug use, Bennett’s gambling, whatever — never offends the Left as much as the fact that they were telling other people how to live. This, I think, is in part because of the general hostility the Left has to the idea that we should live in any way that doesn’t “feel” natural. We must all listen to our inner children.

Now look at the arguments of conservatives. They are almost invariably arguments about trade-offs, costs, “the downside” of a measure. As I’ve written before, the first obligation of the conservative is to explain why nine out of ten new ideas are probably bad ones. When feminists pound the table with the heels of their sensible shoes that it is unfair that there are any conflicts between motherhood and career, the inevitable response from conservatives boils down to “You’re right, but life isn’t fair.” Some conservatives may be more eager than others to lessen the unfairness somewhat. But conservatives understand the simple logic that motherhood is more than a fulltime job and that makes holding a second fulltime job very difficult. Feminist liberals understand this logic too, they just don’t want to accept it because they believe that in a just society there would be no such trade-offs.

The Conservative Faith

In Tuesday’s column, Derbyshire listed six tenets of Anglo-American conservatism (I prefer Russell Kirk’s but these will do):

1. a deep suspicion of the power of the state.

2. a preference for liberty over equality.

3. patriotism.

4. a belief in established institutions and hierarchies.

5. skepticism about the idea of progress.

6. elitism.

You’ll note that points 2, 4, 5, and 6 run obviously counter to the idea that things can ever be perfectly harmonious. Preferring liberty over equality means preferring inequalities in some circumstances. Acceptance of established institutions and hierarchies is obviously anathema to those seeking an organic balance where everyone fulfills their destiny equally and happily. Ditto acceptance of elitism, which is simply the belief that at the end of the day there are some people who are going to be better at a given thing than other people and education, welfare, and other “interventions” by the state won’t change that. In other words, point 1. As for point 5, this runs against the grain of Hegel-based worldviews that assume that merely ripping pages off a calendar gets us closer to the eschatological kewpie doll at the End of Days.

All that leaves is point 3, patriotism. Now, patriotism and nationalism are very different things and there are many people on the right and left who think nationalism is definitionally conservative or right-wing. This is nonsense on very tall stilts, but I’m writing a book about that. Patriotism, however is merely the devotion to a set of ideals, rooted in history, and attached to a specific place. And once again we are spun back to Hayek. To a certain extent patriotism is conservatism, in the same way that being a Christian involves some level of conservatism. It is a devotion to a set of principles set forth in the past and carried forward to today and, hopefully, tomorrow. (I wish it weren’t necessary to point out that this is a non-partisan point: Patriotic liberals are holding dear some aspects of our past as well.) What we call patriotism is often merely the content we use to fill-up the amoral conservatism discussed above. Axiomatically, if you are unwilling to conserve any of the institutions, customs, traditions, or principles inherent to this country you simply aren’t patriotic (and, as a side note, the more you think the U.N. is the savior of the world, the less patriotic you are — see my General Rule on Patriotism).

The belief that all good things move together and there need be no conflicts between them is, ultimately, a religious one. And — by definition — a totalitarian one. Mussolini coined that word not to describe a tyrannical society, but a humane society where everyone is taken care of and contributes equally. Mussolini didn’t want to leave any children behind either.

The attempt to bring such utopianism to the here and now is the sin of trying to immanentize the eschaton. I have a piece on how liberalism operates like an immanentist religion in the print NR (subscribe!) and I’m running long here. So I’ll leave much of that for another day. But not all religions are alike. Which gets me to the rub of my disagreement with Derbyshire (and another Brit, Andrew Stuttaford) and others who are touting the supposed incompatibility of conservative Christianity and political conservatism. Christianity, as I understand it, holds that the perfect world is the next one, not this one. We can do what we can where we can here, but we’re never going to change the fact that we’re fallen, imperfect creatures. There’s also the whole render-unto-Caesar bit. And, of course, the Judeo-Christian tradition assumes we are born in sin, not born perfect before bourgeoisie culture corrupts us into drones for the capitalist state.

In other words, while Christianity may be a complete philosophy of life, it is only at best a partial philosophy of government. When it attempts to be otherwise, it has leapt the rails into an enormous vat of category error. This is one reason why I did not like it when President Bush said his favorite political philosopher was Jesus Christ. I don’t mind at all a president who has a personal relationship with Jesus. It’s just that I don’t think Jesus is going to have useful advice about how to fix Social Security.

Any ideology or outlook that tries to explain what government should do at all times and in all circumstances is un-conservative. Any ideology that sees itself as the answer to any question is un-conservative. Any ideology that promises that if it were fully realized there would be no more problems, no more trade-offs, no more elites, and no more inequality of one kind or another is un-conservative. That’s why some libertarians seem like glassy-eyed religious zealots and others do not. The libertarians who understand that libertarianism is a “partial philosophy” of life understand that politics and economics alike cannot give us the sort of meaning the more totalitarian thinkers seek. I’m not calling the opponents on the right or left Stalinists or Nazis when I say they are totalitarians. A good many hippies who’d never hurt a fly are more completely totalitarian in their thinking than most members of the Soviet politburo ever were. They merely say they’re “holistic” as they wipe away the bong resin from their chins. Ayn Rand was a totalitarian in this sense as well, which is why she was famously “read-out” of the conservative movement.

Contrary to all the bloviating jackassery about how conservatives are more dogmatic than liberals we hear these days, the simple fact is that conservatives don’t have a settled dogma. How could they when each faction has a different partial philosophy of life? The beauty of the conservative movement — as Buckley noted in that original essay — is that we all get along with each other pretty well. The chief reason for this is that we all understand and accept the permanence of contradiction and conflict in life. Christians and Jews understand it because that’s how God set things up. Libertarians understand it because the market is, by definition, a mechanism for amicably reconciling competing preferences. Agnostic, rain-sodden British pessimists understand it because they’ve learned that’s always the way to bet. Conservatism isn’t inherently pessimistic, it is merely pessimistic about the possibility of changing the permanent things and downright melancholy about those who try.

Alas, I fear that is changing. But that’s a subject for another column.

* You can find this essay in several books, including Did You Ever See a Dream Walking and Frank Meyer’s What is Conservatism?


 

 
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To: Dont_Tread_On_Me_888
you may going a little to far there but i understand the problem. privatize SSi-conservative, means testing-socialist. many of his plans are conservative centrist.

marxist? please, go back on your meds.
21 posted on 05/11/2005 7:52:40 PM PDT by postaldave (smile, your mom was pro-life.)
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To: neverdem
Whittaker Chambers said he could not qualify as a conservative — he called himself a "man of the right" — because he could never jettison his faith in the dialectical nature of history. -Jonah Goldberg

The man could find no comfort in contradiction.

22 posted on 05/11/2005 7:55:25 PM PDT by NutCrackerBoy
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To: beavus

I wish it was as easy as having a liberal vs conservative arguement politically. In Texas Republicans (supposedly conservative) are giving us a massive tax increase.

These discussions are useful.

Clearly the Republicans are the party most capable of implementing a conservative agenda but there are too many moderates.

To me its fairly simple - Conservative believes in:

Limited government and Strong defense

While we are getting strong defense from current conservatives we are NOT getting limited government.

A new group of candidates needs to be drafted to challenge RINOs in all races.


23 posted on 05/11/2005 7:56:21 PM PDT by Cat loving Texan
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To: neverdem
What is a “Conservative”?

A “Conservative” can be anybody you meet on the street. It is an intellectual approach to life rather than emotional.

Jammer
24 posted on 05/11/2005 7:59:26 PM PDT by JamminJAY (This space for rent)
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To: beavus
I'd tend to agree with you. For many, the ideological label they choose to apply to themselves is internalized. They self-define the meaning of the label. Therefore, for example, if I label myself as "conservative", then anyone who doesn't believe exactly as I do on every single issue must ipso facto not be a conservative. It's silly, and it's sad. But it also is the gist of many arguments on FR.
25 posted on 05/11/2005 8:07:53 PM PDT by Jokelahoma (Animal testing is a bad idea. They get all nervous and give wrong answers.)
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To: neverdem

Pro-Life.


26 posted on 05/11/2005 8:12:08 PM PDT by TomasUSMC (FIGHT LIKE WW2, FINISH LIKE WW2. FIGHT LIKE NAM, FINISH LIKE NAM.)
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To: Cat loving Texan
To me its fairly simple - Conservative believes in: Limited government and Strong defense While we are getting strong defense from current conservatives we are NOT getting limited government.

That is a reasonable description. But strong defense does tug against limited government. I'm for strong defense too, but not so strong it can conscript me or rob me blind.

27 posted on 05/11/2005 8:16:54 PM PDT by beavus
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To: SierraWasp

"restore the essence of goodness that pervaded this great nation from the time of "Happy Days," American Graffetti" and "Mayberry RFD!"
Now I want some smartalec to come on here and try to tell me what's wrong with that!!!"

I know what you are saying but it wouldn't work. The 1950's had too much liberalism left over from the New Deal. If you could return America to that time then you would just have a 1960's counterculture in a few years time.

The 1920's on the other hand was a time when the population rejected the liberalism of Wilson and much of the Progressive expansion of government was cut back such as the Income Tax rates. On the other hand the morals of the 1920's was looser than the 1950's.

Heck compared with today's popular culture I at times wish we could return to the 1980's when Olvia Newton John songs was banned for being too suggestive.

Of course I believe that everything started going downhill when the Great William McKinley was killed and that damn cowboy Teddy Roosevelt got in.


28 posted on 05/11/2005 8:18:36 PM PDT by Swiss
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To: halieus

"Listen to Democratic politicians when they wax righteous about social policy. Invariably it goes something like this: “I simply reject the notion that in a good society X should have to come at the expense of Y.”

It is a shame that "Dawn to Decadence" by Barzun has faded so rapidly from public discourse, and seems to have been read by so few. Without intending in any way to take sides, Barzun thoroughly tracks the history of what he calls "Eutopians" (Europeans with a utopian vision) over the past 500 years.

I think this book should be on the reading list for anyone seeking understanding of the points Goldberg's article raises.

The book left me with the sense that what we are faced with now is a war against those who "reject the notion that in a good society X should have to come at the expense of Y" -- that is, utopians of various stripes -- and the rest of everybody else.


29 posted on 05/11/2005 8:31:41 PM PDT by dsc
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To: Jokelahoma

People are in some ways simpler and in some ways more complicated than labels make them.

They are more complicated in that the spectrum of values an individual has is tailored by his own experiences, and is not likely to match perfectly with anyone else.

They are simpler in that there is a very small number of values that nearly everyone considers important, and a very small number of judgements on those values that describes virtually everyone's position on them.

That's why the two-party political system usually works for society, and why presumptuousness about individuals often does not.


30 posted on 05/11/2005 8:32:17 PM PDT by beavus
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To: Cat loving Texan
While we are getting strong defense from current conservatives ....

      As in open borders and another round of base closings?
31 posted on 05/11/2005 8:42:08 PM PDT by Celtman (It's never right to do wrong to do right.)
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To: SierraWasp

>>Now I want some smartalec to come on here and try to tell me what's wrong with that!!!


You rang? LOL. Just kidding!

Great rant, Waspman. You have a way with words!


32 posted on 05/11/2005 9:00:46 PM PDT by calcowgirl
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To: Jokelahoma

"if I label myself as "conservative", then anyone who doesn't believe exactly as I do on every single issue must ipso facto not be a conservative."

I visualize two amorphous and shifting constellations of beliefs and proposed responses to circumstances. Sometimes the beliefs involved are not economic or political, but moral or philosophical, and most people tend to mix and match.

For instance, a person may accept liberal economic and political notions, but think himself a centrist because he supports the death penalty and thinks the pre-born should only be killed in cases of rape, incest, or danger to the mother.

Another person may be conservative economically and politically but regard himself as a moderate because he supports affirmative action and special privileges for victims of same-sex attraction disorder.

In my view, a label of conservative or liberal becomes useful when a person accepts X number of the points in one constellation of beliefs and rejects the corresponding beliefs of the other. This is not to say, of course, that there is any agreement on what that level is. I'd tend to say that 70% or better is clearly over the line, but others might disagree.

And, of course, the thinking of some people seems to be such a jumble of the two as to make it impossible to put them clearly in one category or the other.

However, a person is unlikely to be accepted by those who fall solidly in one or the other camp unless he accepts their view on the "deal breakers." Liberals are not going to accept you if you hold that abortion is never permissible, or that women should not work unless it's absolutely necessary to sustain life. Conservatives are unlikely to accept you as conservative if you favor eliminating the age of consent, or high taxes and cradle-to-grave welfare.

All in all, I think it most useful to draw the line between those with a utopian vision and those who, as Goldberg says, recognize that everything is a trade-off.


33 posted on 05/11/2005 9:01:38 PM PDT by dsc
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To: Swiss; Dog Gone; Pelham
Thanks for your largely correct take on my comments. I didn't want to go too far back, lest some FR "Moderate" come on here and call me a Neanderthal! I'm getting so touchy/feely about that sort of thing, these days. (grin)

Dog Gone and Pelham, I sincerely thank you for your compliments, but as Dog Gone knows, it's unwise to give me any ranting encouragement, lest I go too far and step on too many toes, right D.G?

34 posted on 05/11/2005 9:06:09 PM PDT by SierraWasp (The "Heritage Oaks" in the Sierra-Nevada Conservancy are full of parasitic GovernMental mistletoe!!!)
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To: Dog Gone
By the way... Jonah Goldberg is Lucianne's son! How's her former FReepin Highness doin with her website???

By the way... Rush was callin today a real "puke" day!!! Starr & Gingrich turning to the dark side in the same week really put him off and gave him a "dark 'hump-day'!!!"

It didn't exactly make my day either!!!

35 posted on 05/11/2005 9:11:14 PM PDT by SierraWasp (The "Heritage Oaks" in the Sierra-Nevada Conservancy are full of parasitic GovernMental mistletoe!!!)
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To: calcowgirl

You silly calcowgirl, sometimes I cain't evun spel wurds!!!


36 posted on 05/11/2005 9:12:33 PM PDT by SierraWasp (The "Heritage Oaks" in the Sierra-Nevada Conservancy are full of parasitic GovernMental mistletoe!!!)
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To: neverdem
Conservatism is an understanding to the effect the best life is one that reveres the wisdom of the ages and recoils from change simply for the sake of change. We must look to the past for guidance in determining how far change can proceed with the least amount of harm to individuals and the welfare of society. In a nutshell, that is what differentiates conservatism from all other isms. Its not that we necessarily fear the future - its just we don't want a future where we never seem to keep in mind all the lessons that have served us well. Call it a pragmatic philosophy of life. To wit, life is messy and there will never be an elegant solution that will tidy it all up for people - nor would we want to. Its that messiness that keeps life interesting.

(Denny Crane: "Sometimes you can only look for answers from God and failing that... and Fox News".)
37 posted on 05/11/2005 9:25:04 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: SierraWasp
"It also needs to be said that you don’t really have to be a free-marketer or capitalist to be a conservative"

This is the one that really gags me. How could a 'free-marketer' be a conservative? To buy your goods from your enemies at the expense of your friends is hardly a conservative virtue.

"Most of all, with the exception of the Cold War, I wish to conserve the greatest of American traditions from the days of my youth and turn back most of the crappola that's been imposed on us by liberal Demonicrats since Kennedy was assassinated!!! Or maybe to before Ike anointed the Governor of CA, Earl Warren to the US Supreme Court!!!

What we need is an 'undo button' and that is what these RINOs are trying to prevent. More bullets / less ballots sounds better every day.

38 posted on 05/11/2005 9:27:19 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (The Lord has given us President Bush; let's now turn this nation back to him)
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To: editor-surveyor

I only mentioned Kennedy as by today's standards, he's such a hard over conservative that he'd make Zell Miller blush!!!


39 posted on 05/11/2005 9:34:48 PM PDT by SierraWasp (The "Heritage Oaks" in the Sierra-Nevada Conservancy are full of parasitic GovernMental mistletoe!!!)
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To: Dont_Tread_On_Me_888
Don't anybody here attempt to slot George Bush in the "conservative" category.

Tax-cutter, Pro-Life, expand the military, free-trade, amnesty for illegals, huge budget deficits. Sounds like Reagan. Of course Prez Reagan, a life long rat, twice president of his union, fan of FDR never really called himself a conservative anyways. The media always did that to scare moderate and liberal voters. Conservatives like Buckley hated Reagan when he was in office...he was too cozy with Gorbachev.

40 posted on 05/11/2005 9:48:07 PM PDT by Once-Ler ("They call me 'The Pork King,' they don't know how much I enjoy it." - Sen. Robert Byrd)
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