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The hollyweird people are never going to get it. It's just like "Alexandar the Fabulous." The people who like violent war movies are not the same people who like p.c. trash. They are going to continue to blow off hundreds of millions of dollars until they realize it.
1 posted on 05/10/2005 10:08:55 AM PDT by GulliverSwift
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Let 'em blow their money. It goes to hard-working capitalists who built their sets and edited their movie.


2 posted on 05/10/2005 10:10:29 AM PDT by TeenagedConservative
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"the story of the Crusades from a point of view that favors the Muslim version instead of the Christian version."


GOOD GRIEF!

Did they really believe that people would flock to see this crap?


3 posted on 05/10/2005 10:11:04 AM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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Political correctness has completely displaced intelligent film making. We're not likely ever to see the likes of "Lawrence of Arabia" again.


7 posted on 05/10/2005 10:14:58 AM PDT by Spok (Everything I know about intolerance I learned from a liberal.)
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Does anyone besides me suspect that mainstream Hollywood is just a money laundry for the porn industry?


8 posted on 05/10/2005 10:15:10 AM PDT by js1138 (e unum pluribus)
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I loved Gladiator. What I don't get is how can these producers not know that when we see such a movie, we want good guys and bad guys, and someone to identify with. What we don't want is wishy-washy views on religion and no identifiable heroes or villains.

It isn't hard for me to understand. Why is hard for Hollywood?
11 posted on 05/10/2005 10:16:24 AM PDT by VegasCowboy ("...he wore his gun outside his pants, for all the honest world to feel.")
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If Hollywood were a serious business, they would make the pendulum swing in the opposite direction:

Movies promoting homosexuality, anti-Christian, pro-Communism views aren't selling? Okay! Okay! We'll make movies about how unhappy homosexuals are, how a Christian world-view promotes happiness, and how Communism has destroyed millions of lives. Maybe those movies will sell better. Let's wait and see...

But, of course, Hollywood is not an actual business enterprise, and so you won't see those movies get made. Hollywood is an agenda-driven propaganda machine. They won't change the kind of movies they make. But the movies will get smaller.

13 posted on 05/10/2005 10:17:26 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (The fourth estate is a fifth column.)
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Hollywood is like the dumb blonde. "I, like, don't get it."


14 posted on 05/10/2005 10:17:30 AM PDT by Luna (Lobbing the Holy Hand Grenade at Liberalism)
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When they lose enough money they may figure it out. Or the new producers and studios that replace them will.


16 posted on 05/10/2005 10:17:55 AM PDT by Rummyfan
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Are people turning away from lackluster movies, or turning their backs on the whole business of going to theaters?

Ask me that same question when I'm waiting in line to see Revenge of the Sith.

17 posted on 05/10/2005 10:20:22 AM PDT by Question Liberal Authority (BUSH KNEW!!! ...that democracy would take hold in the Middle East)
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I did purchase Star Wars tickets for the midnight showing on May 19th. Lucas is a Conservative. So that is a safe bet.
19 posted on 05/10/2005 10:22:31 AM PDT by Sprite518
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Do you suppose Mel Gibson would have made "The Passion" if he was worried some might be offended?

Gotta give Mel a lot of credit for putting his own money and reputation on the line, and yes, a lot of people were offended, calling him anti-Semitic and much worse. Ridley Scott on the other hand has made a film which tries not to offend anyone and as a result is a bomb (no, I have not seen it. I think he did an excellent job with Black Hawk Down.)

20 posted on 05/10/2005 10:22:41 AM PDT by Rummyfan
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"The people who like violent war movies are not the same people who like p.c. trash."

I like that observation. It never really occurred to me, but it IS true. I like war movies and hate P.C. crap.

Maybe that statement should be engraved in tne for high letters on the cliff under the tacky "Hollywood" sign in Hollyweird.

Or, maybe Hollyweird is just another suburb of Never-Neverland a la Michael Jackson.


22 posted on 05/10/2005 10:23:32 AM PDT by ZULU (Fear the government which fears your guns. God, guts, and guns made America great.)
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Actually, Hollywood does get it. They just prefer to ignore the many studies/polls that show most folks really don't want what they're selling. At this point they can afford to be arrogant. When the money runs out then perhaps they'll listen. Then again maybe not. I'm not sure anyone really cares too much either.


23 posted on 05/10/2005 10:25:26 AM PDT by 556x45
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If you want to make an epic, quit revising history and show both sides as they were, warts and all.

And quit injecting romance into a good war flick. Where did Hollywood ever get the idea that war movies would make good date movies? Here's a clue, Hollywood morons--war epics and chick flicks dont' mix. That's like pouring chocolate syrup over a porterhouse steak.

31 posted on 05/10/2005 10:31:37 AM PDT by randog (What the....?!)
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Since the Hollyweirds live in an alien country peopled by a lot of red state folks, I'm surprised that at least one of them hasn't decided to hire some red state housewife for $ 25,000/yr. to read movie scripts (or to consult with them on the synopsis of an idea.) They wouldn't have to listen and probably would not, but since it's all "funny money" to them and not money they worked for, ($ 25,000 would be the caterer's bill at a small dinner party,) it could make them the most prominent filmmaker in Hollyweird, at least moneywise.


34 posted on 05/10/2005 10:32:16 AM PDT by penowa
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There is no plot without a protagonist, and the protagonist is not interesting unless he is a hero. He cannot be a hero if he is not good.

Hollywood long ago rejected the idea of objective moral law, and severed its own artistic nerve when it did so.

The corpse twitched awhile and so moguls thought it lived.

35 posted on 05/10/2005 10:32:34 AM PDT by Taliesan (The power of the State to do good is the power of the State to do evil.)
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37 posted on 05/10/2005 10:33:00 AM PDT by FreedomFarmer (Socialism is not an ideology, it is a disease. Eliminate the vectors.)
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"The task gets tougher when real historical events are being envisioned, and revisioned. Once upon a time, Hollywood could blithely make cowboys-and-Indians movies in which white people massacred red people, as audiences - white ones, at least - cheered."

All my heroes have killed cowboys. Actually, these are movies we're talking about, so I watch them for entertainment only.


38 posted on 05/10/2005 10:33:31 AM PDT by Redcitizen (One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter)
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I am waiting for a movie that shows 9-11, and the events that led to it. The ACLU suing the airlines so they won't deny tickets to Middle Eastern men, paying for tickets with cash, carrying no luggage aboard planes. People jumping out of windows to avoid burning to death, the mothers/daughters/sons sobbing as they find that daddy is not coming home. Righteous anger to kill all Muslims that murdered so many innocents here and abroad. The slitting of throats with dull knives, the kidnapping of innocents, the suicide by bomb on the streets of Israel. Make that movie and you are guaranteed a few hundred million in box office. Make that movie, and Bush is strengthened to clean the world of this evil, the Denorats are silenced, and America is a safer and better place....... I am still waiting.


43 posted on 05/10/2005 10:35:31 AM PDT by jeremiah (Is it not treason, to allow the flow of illegals to be unchecked?)
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It might just be that enough people now have large flat screen TVs and home entertainment systems that they no longer need to see movies at the theatre.

It might also be that enough people have access to broadband that they can get their movies for free.

We may be witnessing the beginning of Hollywood being hit by the same phenomenon that the recording industry has been seeing for the past ten years.

50 posted on 05/10/2005 10:38:44 AM PDT by who_would_fardels_bear
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