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Hitler's secret Indian army
BBC ^ | 9/23/2004 | By Mike Thomson

Posted on 05/09/2005 9:08:05 AM PDT by minus_273

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reposting from another thread about Indian contributions to the war. This is history that is overlooked fro various reasons.

"the BBC was forbidden from broadcasting their story and this remarkable saga was locked away in the archives, until now."

"After D-Day, the Free India Legion, which had now been drafted into Himmler's Waffen SS, were in headlong retreat through France, along with regular German units.

It was during this time that they gained a wild and loathsome reputation amongst the civilian population.

The former French Resistance fighter, Henri Gendreaux, remembers the Legion passing through his home town of Ruffec: "I do remember several cases of rape. A lady and her two daughters were raped and in another case they even shot dead a little two-year-old girl.""

India does not celebrate VE day or VJ day. They fought on both sides of the war.

1 posted on 05/09/2005 9:08:15 AM PDT by minus_273
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This was the date that the left-wing Indian revolutionary leader, Subhas Chandra Bose,

Left wing? He was a right-wing nationalist whose followers killed Gandhi a few years later.

2 posted on 05/09/2005 9:14:24 AM PDT by BullDog108 ("Conservatives believe in God. Liberals think they are God." ---Ann Coulter)
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Like a lot of supposedly "breaking" stuff from the MSM (such as the "Secret German 1905 plan to invade the US, which I read about in a book 10 years ago) I'd previously heard of this from multiple sources. This isn't new or all that shocking.


3 posted on 05/09/2005 9:14:33 AM PDT by Strategerist
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some pictures:

Nazi-Indian troops occupying Singapore.


Nazi-Indian troops occupying the Philippines.


Indian stamp commemorating Nazi troops.


Indian propaganda. Notice the Japanese Flag


Stamp commemorating the 25th anniversary of the Nazi-Indian military.
4 posted on 05/09/2005 9:15:39 AM PDT by minus_273
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its not new but it turns out A LOT of people didnt know about it and therefore the this thread.


5 posted on 05/09/2005 9:17:29 AM PDT by minus_273
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This is nothing new. Short-sightedness of Indian leaders is a routine matter. Even today they think any critic of India must be a Paki. Bose felt the enemy of his enemy would be his friend. If Hitler would have won, he would be the first one in line to go to a concentration camp.


6 posted on 05/09/2005 9:17:56 AM PDT by econ_grad
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i think gandhi was killed by the VHP or something like that..as far as i know it was another group


7 posted on 05/09/2005 9:19:23 AM PDT by minus_273
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It's clear though the BBC is promoting it like they've made some sort of amazing discovery through brilliant journalism.

That's what I have a problem with.


8 posted on 05/09/2005 9:22:55 AM PDT by Strategerist
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actually i didnt know indian troops fought against us in Europe. I just know people who fought Indian troops in Asia. For example when we fought to get the philippines back.


9 posted on 05/09/2005 9:25:19 AM PDT by minus_273
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Wonder if the BBC will ever discover the Muslim Waffen SS divisions of the Wehrmacht?
10 posted on 05/09/2005 9:35:23 AM PDT by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - They want to die for Islam, and we want to kill them.)
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Gandhi was killed by Nathuram Godse, who had a number of affiliations with right wing Hindu fundamentalist groups, but AFAIK, the actual assasination wasn't organized by anyone - it was Godse working alone. His political views are, of course, in line with Subhas Chandra Bose before him and the VHP/RSS of today.

As for the news article, I agree - seems to be presented as an amazing new discovery or something, when it's not. So some Indian soldiers deserted (a few hundred out of many thousands in the British Indian Army) to fight (in their minds) for their country's independence, figuring the British were never going to let India go. I don't agree with what they did, but I have the benefit of hindsight.

Given that their country was occupied by England, and Indians were essentially being forced to fight in a war that had nothing to do with them, I can't condemn them morally. It's not like they were mercenaries fighting for whoever paid them, and they were hardly traitors to their country - only to the British.

The Indian political leaders promised co-operation with the British in WW2 in return for independence and delivered magnificently on their promise (and eventually so did the British). Some of these soldiers obviously felt that wasn't the best way to go about independence. (And it is to be noted that even in that situation, the overwhelming majority of the British Indian Army fought heroically against the Nazis).


11 posted on 05/09/2005 9:37:32 AM PDT by Culum
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They were militarily useless propaganda troops. I read about an argument where Hitler sneeringly asked why the Frei Hind were always "refitting" without ever having fought.

But what the article demonstrated, as was clear, was that the British Army of India was no longer politically reliable by 1946. India did not have a large, politically powerful white settler population so once the army turned India was lost.


12 posted on 05/09/2005 9:42:31 AM PDT by Sam the Sham
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Ping.
Indian Nazi troops.


13 posted on 05/09/2005 9:43:37 AM PDT by Kozak (Anti Shahada: " There is no God named Allah, and Muhammed is his False Prophet")
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Given that their country was occupied by England, and Indians were essentially being forced to fight in a war that had nothing to do with them

FWIW, India had no conscription. The Indian Army in WWII was the largest all-volunteer army in history.

14 posted on 05/09/2005 9:45:17 AM PDT by Restorer
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Indian Nazi troops.

Crazy Hans? Goebbelronimo?

15 posted on 05/09/2005 9:48:08 AM PDT by N. Theknow (Why isn't there a Disneyland in China? - Nobody's tall enough for the good rides.)
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Netaji Subhash Chandra Bose and Field Marshall Erwin Rommel in Germany.



























16 posted on 05/09/2005 9:52:31 AM PDT by ekidsohbelaas (Satyameva Jayate)
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17 posted on 05/09/2005 9:53:18 AM PDT by ekidsohbelaas (Satyameva Jayate)
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To: Sam the Sham

The Indian Army in WWII eventually totaled 2.5 million men, making it obviously a major combatant. But, as you say, it was not a reliable tool after the war for the British to use in repressing the Indian and Pakistani independence movements.


18 posted on 05/09/2005 9:53:38 AM PDT by Restorer
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To: Culum

once again, it wasn't a few hundred, it was thousands of troops. They also occupied other countries themselves (look at the pics from singapore and the Philippines). They fought in Europe and against the US. That has nothing to do with british colonization of India. Also remember, the British had promised to free india after the war (as they did).


19 posted on 05/09/2005 10:00:41 AM PDT by minus_273
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Might be some fringe correlations there.

I recently read a chronology that fed a lot of freemasonry associated dates of the occult into the fray. It seems the 9th of November had significance with human executions or sacrifice in some occultic circles. Considering our WTC would be reversal of the numerals and a number of occultic links with the Al Quada, the fascination of the NAZIs with the occult associated with that part of the world, and this report. I wouldn't be too surprised if some linkage existed, although I'd come closer to associating it with evil people dabbling in the occult rather than any more significant affair.


20 posted on 05/09/2005 10:01:35 AM PDT by Cvengr (<;^))
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