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Invasion of the iPod people
Knight Ridder ^ | 5.4.05

Posted on 05/07/2005 11:28:05 AM PDT by ambrose

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To: FreedomPoster

What I like about using my PDA as a music player is that it will allow my calendar program to pop in over the music and remind me about appointments or meetings.

I am very surprised MS did not emphasis this UNDER used feature of their PocketPC system.

I view the Ipod (and mp3 players, as just neutered computers. The Ipod more so since it is Itunes dependent)


21 posted on 05/07/2005 12:04:21 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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To: Yardstick

The iPod comes with cheap headphones. I recently purchased Sony V600s, and the sound that comes out of them is outstanding. I suppose someone with ultra sensitive ears will claim to tell a difference, but I'd like to see Audiophiles who make this claim blindfold tested under lab conditions.


22 posted on 05/07/2005 12:04:27 PM PDT by ambrose (....)
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To: Yardstick

It all depends on the file, on my PDA i have CD quality if I want it. (usually only for certain songs)


23 posted on 05/07/2005 12:05:52 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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To: ambrose

I've got more than 3 times that many CDs at work, which is about 1/15 of my collection, then there's the LPs and cassettes. With half way descent organization I've got access to my CDs at least as easily as an iPod, and don't have to futz with things to listen to them in album order (which is generally better, at least with artists that have been around a while and know how to construct an album).

I see iPods as pretty handy for your casual music listener, but completely worthless for somebody like me.


24 posted on 05/07/2005 12:06:01 PM PDT by discostu (quis custodiet ipsos custodes)
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To: longtermmemmory

Does the PDA organize the music by album/artist/genre/etc.? The iPod software is one the biggest selling point, in my opinion.


25 posted on 05/07/2005 12:07:29 PM PDT by ambrose (....)
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To: ambrose
I have a subscription to Audible.com. I wish I could download more than just two per month, however.

Working on my Shakespeare collection now.


26 posted on 05/07/2005 12:11:30 PM PDT by rdb3 (To the world, you're one person. To one person, you may be the world.)
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To: longtermmemmory
What I like about using my PDA as a music player is that it will allow my calendar program to pop in over the music and remind me about appointments or meetings. I am very surprised MS did not emphasis this UNDER used feature of their PocketPC system. I view the Ipod (and mp3 players, as just neutered computers. The Ipod more so since it is Itunes dependent)

My palm Tunsten E will also play MP3s. PDAs are very cool for the computer-saavy. For some they are impossible.

I don't have a negative view of music-only devices. The are the 21st century equivalent of the Walkman. If people are willing to pay for such, that's capitalism at work.

I like capitalism.

27 posted on 05/07/2005 12:12:35 PM PDT by LibKill (Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy.)
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To: ambrose

No doubt the headphones make a huge difference. But it's very clear to me that compressed audio just isn't the same as real audio. The dynamic range is audibly reduced as well as the detail in the top end. I don't perceive it as a trivial difference at all.

Of course, there are different degrees of compression. Some compression just totally kills the music, but I guess there are other types that are probably pretty transparent.

Like I said to rdb3, I'm just going to take a listen to an iPod some time.


28 posted on 05/07/2005 12:12:59 PM PDT by Yardstick
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
I know what you mean, I love music and am presently in tube amp bliss but I can't for the life of me get excited about an Ipod. If they were a little cheaper maybe. What can I say, I still love vinyl records.
29 posted on 05/07/2005 12:14:02 PM PDT by Lx (Do you like it, do you like it Scott? I call it Mr. and Mrs. Tennerman chili.)
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To: Yardstick
Is it as good as a CD?

As good as or better, but definitely not worse. Most files played from a CD in your computer are at 96 to 128Kbps. All of mine in my iPod are at 160 or 192Kbps. You will hear that difference quickly.

You can rip your CDs for that bitrate, and the iPod will play it just like that. Sometimes, however, ripping a CD at a higher bitrate won't make a bit of difference, especially with older CDs.


30 posted on 05/07/2005 12:16:24 PM PDT by rdb3 (To the world, you're one person. To one person, you may be the world.)
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To: longtermmemmory
It all depends on the file, on my PDA i have CD quality if I want it.

Is that an option on an iPod? Like can you opt out of the data compression in exchange for reduced recording time?

31 posted on 05/07/2005 12:16:28 PM PDT by Yardstick
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Some people hate to be alone with their own thoughts...not surprising when you think about it.


32 posted on 05/07/2005 12:20:16 PM PDT by durasell (Friends are so alarming, My lover's never charming...)
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To: rdb3
I have a subscription to Audible.com. I wish I could download more than just two per month, however.

FYI, Audible is currently offering a 10 books for $120 "gift certificate". There is nothing to keep one from buying the certificate and then giving the certificate to himself. I've done that in the past.

33 posted on 05/07/2005 12:26:25 PM PDT by ambrose (....)
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To: rdb3
All of mine in my iPod are at 160 or 192Kbps.

But I gather that there's some compression in the storage/playback chain somewhere -- and my impression is that it's always "on" in an iPod. The compression can't be gotten around.

I'm guessing that even though the original file may have been recorded at a higher bit rate, the compressed version that gets stored on the iPod isn't at that high of a bit rate.

But I could be completely wrong on this.

34 posted on 05/07/2005 12:26:48 PM PDT by Yardstick
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To: LibKill

You are preaching to the Choir.

I actually find the Pocket PC system is pretty simple I just like being able to carry more with me. Now if only they would make them super smaller into wrist size and then with an expanding or holographic screen.


35 posted on 05/07/2005 12:32:13 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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To: Yardstick

sorry, I don't know.


36 posted on 05/07/2005 12:32:52 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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To: durasell

"Some people hate to be alone with their own thoughts...not surprising when you think about it."

Never looked at it that way...but it sure explains a lot where my teen is concerned. ;)


37 posted on 05/07/2005 12:33:43 PM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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To: ambrose; WhyisaTexasgirlinPA

I just bought one for my daughter for her 16th B'day.

It was cheaper than a car. So I love 'em.


38 posted on 05/07/2005 12:35:44 PM PDT by SeeRushToldU_So (Flashback.)
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To: durasell

Keep that in mind when you go to any college campus and about every third person has the white ear buds in.


39 posted on 05/07/2005 12:36:19 PM PDT by Mr. Blonde (You know, Happy Time Harry, just being around you kinda makes me want to die.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Your teens are probably listening to iPods so they don't have to interact with you. (no offense meant, but I assume you know what I mean.)


40 posted on 05/07/2005 12:36:46 PM PDT by durasell (Friends are so alarming, My lover's never charming...)
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