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Mass Congressman: Ban Oxycontin
WRKO boston AM 680 | Today | Brainhose

Posted on 05/07/2005 4:11:43 AM PDT by Brainhose

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To: Brainhose
I am surprised Stephen Lynch has suggested this. Lynch is not the typical rat. Although it is possible that I am giving him a break because I compare him to the rest of the Ma. delegation.
41 posted on 05/07/2005 7:42:28 AM PDT by JIM O
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To: Wolfie
If he was talking about marijuana, conservatives would jump for joy.

Sounds like the arguments he's using for banning Oxycontin are the same arguments we hear over and over for the continued ban on medicinal marijuana. I pray this effort goes down in flames ... and takes Reefer Madness hysteria with it.

42 posted on 05/07/2005 7:42:36 AM PDT by Know your rights (The modern enlightened liberal doesn't care what you believe as long as you don't really believe it.)
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To: surrey
The side effects were horrible.

There are few if any medicines that work for every patient who tries them. Do you think your daughter's experience means that Oxycontin should be banned?

43 posted on 05/07/2005 7:44:09 AM PDT by Know your rights (The modern enlightened liberal doesn't care what you believe as long as you don't really believe it.)
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To: philetus

Lynchie is grabbing a headline. We just had a local Oxy robbery...where the pharmacist pulled his OWN gun (an armed citizen in Mass...Horrors!) and gunshots ensued in the store. Big local splash, so he has to say something to be "relevant" to the nitwits in his district. Oxy-related crime is big news in Mass. so naturally, let's have a knee-jerk reaction!


44 posted on 05/07/2005 7:47:05 AM PDT by PrkChps (There really, really are conservatives in Massachusetts!)
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To: Know your rights

No, I certainly don't think it should be banned. If it helps someone deal with pain then I'm all for it. I was just relating a personal experience.

As another poster mentioned I'm surprised that this was offered up by Lynch. He is a Democrat but he's a whole lot better than 99% of the Dems here in MA.


45 posted on 05/07/2005 8:41:04 AM PDT by surrey
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To: who knows what evil?
I have a better idea...let's ban Democrats.

They definatly are a bigger threat to our nation.

46 posted on 05/07/2005 8:42:23 AM PDT by eyespysomething (hmmm....)
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To: JIM O
As Scooby Doo would say: Huh?
Stephen Lynch isn't typical????
One pill and you're addicted?
Everyone else has to suffer because you have some bee under your bonnet?
I could give Mussolini a break because after all he wasn't
Hitler and I could give Hitler a break because at least he wasn't Stalin. I could give Stalin a break because at least he wasn't Chairman Mao.
Exactly when do we stop giving Massachusetts's politicians a "break" and start holding them accountable for their legislation??
You may want to log into DU.
Sheesh,, There isn't a Mass legislator that doesn't fall into the "Nanny" mold. They want to control every aspect of you life.
47 posted on 05/07/2005 9:24:20 AM PDT by Brainhose (THINK OF THE KITTENS!)
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To: surrey

Lay off the crack dude! All Mass legislators want to control your life. Just because one in particular isn't as bad as Teddy doesn't mean that he is your savior.


48 posted on 05/07/2005 9:28:35 AM PDT by Brainhose (THINK OF THE KITTENS!)
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To: Brainhose
"You may want to log into DU"

Where did that com from? My point was he is the best of the worst. Which in my opinion is the truth.

49 posted on 05/07/2005 11:09:05 AM PDT by JIM O
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To: Brainhose
"...he clearly implied that anyone who took the pill became instantly addicted."

Funny he doesn't have the same zeal about shutting down bars in his home town, South Boston. We all know that the members of a certain ethnic group to which he belongs become instantly addicted to alcohol. /sarcasm

50 posted on 05/07/2005 1:21:03 PM PDT by LibFreeOrDie (L'chaim!)
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To: wyattearp
It is asinine to ban it just because some people abuse it. This is just another politician punishing the law-abiding for the acts of the lawless.

To be precise, opiates like oxycontin are PLEASURABLE by nature. They are illegal by human arbitrary decision - they were legal all XIX century (and ALL centuries before!) and the society did not collapse.

The hedonists and pleasure seekers who use opiates are lawless now, but they were not lawless before.

So what is the exactly evil about opiates apart from their "lawlessness"? Are these other evils worse that the destruction of lives caused by the prison system? Are they worse than the pain of the sick deprived of their medications?

Was the prohibition of alcohol a good thing? Is the fight against tobacco a good thing? Is the banning of meat and mandatory vegetarianism (the next noble agenda) a good thing?

51 posted on 05/07/2005 6:16:28 PM PDT by A. Pole (Ukrainian proverb: "Iak buly moskali, buv khlib na stoli, a iak bude Ukraina, bude bida po kolina")
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To: A. Pole
The hedonists and pleasure seekers who use opiates are lawless now, but they were not lawless before.

I think that you were reading something in what I wrote that I did not intend. I think that if I want a bottle of laudenum (sp?) then I should be able to go to the corner store and buy it. If I have a major toothache, and can't get to the dentist for a couple of days, I should be able to go to the store and buy a small amount of cocaine. I consider myself a responsible person. The fact that I knew better than to continue to take a narcotic, even though I was in pain, substantiates this. I do not like the government assuming that I am not a responsible person, and then legislating according to that incorrect assumption.

I think that the reason that opiates were made illegal in the first place was because so many things contained them that people were becoming addicted to a narcotic without even realizing that they were taking one. It is one thing to have free will and make your own decisions on whether or not to take a drug. It is another thing entirely for people to become addicted to a narcotic through no fault of their own.

52 posted on 05/08/2005 12:32:24 PM PDT by wyattearp (The best weapon to have in a gunfight is a shotgun - preferably from ambush.)
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To: Brainhose
Before this story came out, I would have said that Lynch was the most conservative and "normal" of the Massachusetts delegation. He has even said that "reading the Boston Globe is a mistake." I heard him say that myself.

He is just like the rest of these retards in Congress from Massachusetts. Totally unprincipled.

53 posted on 05/08/2005 12:39:02 PM PDT by Radix (A Tag Line this clever ought to be noticed.)
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To: wyattearp
I think that the reason that opiates were made illegal in the first place was because so many things contained them that people were becoming addicted to a narcotic without even realizing that they were taking one.

Many people are addicted to coffee. Or to eating fancy food. Or to reading books. Or to jogging. Or to fishing. What about the people who just want to be addicted?

Mencken once said: "A Puritan is someone who is deathly afraid that someone, somewhere, is having fun."

54 posted on 05/08/2005 4:28:02 PM PDT by A. Pole (Ukrainian proverb: "Iak buly moskali, buv khlib na stoli, a iak bude Ukraina, bude bida po kolina")
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55 posted on 05/10/2005 10:59:00 AM PDT by freepatriot32 (If you want to change government support the libertarian party www.lp.org)
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To: GodBlessUSA; All

And that insulin stuff? Yeah, people start taking it, and they never stop. We gotta stop that stuff too. Yeah.

Will these freakin people never stop? Vioxx worked like a miracle for me, until some clowns stopped taking it according to prescrition. Then Bextra worked--but they stopped that too.

Pain patients--we're all faking it for the drugs.
Bastards.


56 posted on 05/10/2005 2:16:27 PM PDT by SoVaDPJ
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To: Wolfie

If he was talking about marijuana, conservatives would jump for joy.

got that right.


57 posted on 05/10/2005 2:19:53 PM PDT by SoVaDPJ
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To: Hildy
Just like they did to Quaaludes. Ah...my crazy youth! LOL. Those young days. I miss them. Just sorry I didn't save it for real pain...wait, no I'm not.
58 posted on 05/10/2005 2:29:19 PM PDT by SoVaDPJ
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To: Brainhose

Well...ya know, better thousands of people suffer with agonizing pain than one person become addicted.

And who better qualified to make that decision than a highly educated politician?


59 posted on 05/10/2005 2:30:32 PM PDT by FreedomAvatar (Gravity is only a theory)
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To: SoVaDPJ
Just sorry I didn't save it for real pain...wait, no I'm not.

I don't think quaaludes were prescribed for pain..they were sleeping pills, I think. I don't really think they had any real medical purpose!

60 posted on 05/10/2005 5:49:55 PM PDT by Hildy ( The reason a dog has so many friends is that he wags his tail instead of his tongue)
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