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Hitler's Drugged Soldiers
Der Spiegel ^ | 06 May 2005 | Andreas Ulrich

Posted on 05/06/2005 10:57:50 PM PDT by Lando Lincoln

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To: Blumtoon

She's damn lucky if she kicked it......one of very few to be lucky enough to stop if she used it for a long time.

Stay safe !


81 posted on 05/07/2005 1:07:35 PM PDT by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet. ©)
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To: Jaysun

You are correct.

I think some here are more than casual observers..lol


82 posted on 05/07/2005 7:21:28 PM PDT by wardaddy ( Lucchese Belt Raised)
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To: Jaysun

Methadone is more concentrated than Heroin but the euphoria is not as profound as Heroin.

Nothing is that I'm aware of.


83 posted on 05/07/2005 7:23:46 PM PDT by wardaddy ( Lucchese Belt Raised)
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To: ConservativeMind; Squantos; Travis McGee

The Allies kicked their asses indeed but one cannot underestimate the fighting ability of crack Wermacht units throughout that war.

man for man, they were a very adept fighting force...maybe the best in modern warfare.

Thank God, their numbers were limited....doped or otherwise.


84 posted on 05/07/2005 7:28:06 PM PDT by wardaddy ( Lucchese Belt Raised)
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To: wardaddy

To some degree that's true, especially on the Eastern Front.

However, the 44 Wehrmacht Divisions in Normandy fared rather poorly against the 6 U.S. divisions that landed there on 6/6/44.

85 posted on 05/07/2005 7:32:11 PM PDT by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: wardaddy

Agree with ya on that....had the generals fought that war versus that paper hangin son of a bitch, and the weapons they knew would win such as the Sturmgewehr 44 etc etc. It would have been a long hard road to win....longer and worse than it was for our folks.


86 posted on 05/07/2005 7:36:02 PM PDT by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet. ©)
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To: wardaddy

Amen.


87 posted on 05/07/2005 7:36:23 PM PDT by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: wardaddy
Methadone is more concentrated than Heroin but the euphoria is not as profound as Heroin.
Nothing is that I'm aware of.


I don't do drugs. Not because I'm better than anyone else, but because I haven't found anything - including heroin - potent enough to soothe my exquisite inner pain. Insanity is my only means of relaxation.
88 posted on 05/07/2005 9:13:02 PM PDT by Jaysun (The road to despotism is paved with "fairness")
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To: Blumtoon

Do you realize how strong your sister is to have been hooked on that drug and then stop using it? Amazing.


89 posted on 05/07/2005 9:26:58 PM PDT by JudyB1938 ("A paranoid schizophrenic is somebody who just found out what's going on." - Wm S. Burroughs, Jr.)
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To: Jaysun

Were I to decide to be a drug addict, I would probably opt for quasi-functioning opiate addict....

I've never understoof the allure of meth or crack....nerve wracking dope it appears to me.

I've always thought drugs were supposed to relax oneself.

But....like you I don't use any drugs either...nor alcohol.

But I was young once...30 years ago and did dumb things.


90 posted on 05/07/2005 9:36:30 PM PDT by wardaddy ( Lucchese Belt Raised)
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To: WorkingClassFilth
Tragically, unlike President Bush quitting drinking years ago, you will likely never be able to get beyond your limited mental capacity.

Like the famous retort:

Speaker: You're drunk!

Retort: Yes, I may be drunk. But you're ugly, and I'll be sober in the morning.

Cheers!

91 posted on 05/07/2005 9:58:09 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: MilspecRob
Heroin was developed for addicts to treat morphine addiction.

Not exactly what I've heard. The story as I remember it is that a German chemist had noted morphine's strong analgesic properties; wanting to improve on them (and perhaps decrease the problems with CNS depression of breathing at high doses), he chemically cooked up morphine to add a couple of acetyl groups to it. (This was by analogy of addition of acetyl groups to salicylic acid (quite similar to oil of wintergreen...) to produce acetesalicylic acid (aspirin)).

The modified morphine was to be a "heroic" treatment for pain, hence the name, "hero"-in.

Full Disclosure: Read my tagline before complaining.

Cheers!

92 posted on 05/07/2005 10:04:52 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: Jaysun
I don't do drugs. Not because I'm better than anyone else, but because I haven't found anything - including heroin - potent enough to soothe my exquisite inner pain. Insanity is my only means of relaxation.

Geez, isn't that what Free Republic is for?

Full Disclosure: Or there's always Christ...

Cheers!

93 posted on 05/07/2005 10:07:49 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: grey_whiskers
Hi Whiskers

You could be very well correct, I was remembering something I read long ago. What I now recall is that it was used to treat morphine addiction.

thanks for the info!

94 posted on 05/07/2005 11:03:12 PM PDT by MilspecRob (Most people don't act stupid, they really are.)
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To: eno_

They will be controlled.

Imagine a pill that increases alertness, improves memory and will probably reduce brain aging effects. Plus NO side effects.

It will make many want to abuse!


95 posted on 05/08/2005 3:19:13 AM PDT by BILL_C
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To: grey_whiskers; wardaddy
Geez, isn't that what Free Republic is for? Full Disclosure: Or there's always Christ...
Cheers!


Hey I was just kidding guys - not about abstaining from drugs, but about the exquisite inner pain. I couldn't be happier. My wife is a dream come true, my kids are great, my work is profitable, my health is good......

Whosoever shall confess that Jesus is the Son of God, God dwelleth in him, and he in God. (1 John 4:15)
96 posted on 05/08/2005 3:30:02 AM PDT by Jaysun (The road to despotism is paved with "fairness")
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To: Squantos
one of very few to be lucky enough to stop if she used it for a long time

Not that I'd reccomend anyone start speeding for fun, but the dirty little secret of addictive drugs is that most addicts kick their habit on their own. And the ones that don't kick it on their own, usually never do.

97 posted on 05/08/2005 7:36:40 AM PDT by eno_ (Freedom Lite - it's almost worth defending.)
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To: BILL_C
Imagine a pill that increases alertness, improves memory and will probably reduce brain aging effects. Plus NO side effects. It will make many want to abuse!

How would you define abuse, and what contribution do you think laws can make toward preventing such abuse?

98 posted on 05/08/2005 7:38:09 AM PDT by eno_ (Freedom Lite - it's almost worth defending.)
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To: Lando Lincoln

Nothing new. Look up the origin of the word "assassin".


99 posted on 05/08/2005 7:42:39 AM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (This tagline will be destoyed to make way for a new Hyperspace bypass.)
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To: eno_

Let's see, it if increases cognition after a long night, or during a long night there are going to be some who will attempt to overdose.

Just look around, it happens.

It looks like from what I've seen, however, that there is a huge safety margin between projected dose and limiting doses with an ampakine (CX-717) so you'd probably have to take 8 pills or more to just develope a headache!

But right now there's nothing to suggest that abuse (taking more than the recomended dose) would do much more than produce a headache.

Further testing will tell. We're a couple of years from having an ampakine on the shelf for anything. But DARPA (military) and sleep related uses are probably going to come first.

LAWS? Just distribution/costs will limit use, as it USUALLY should be.


100 posted on 05/08/2005 8:48:01 AM PDT by BILL_C
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