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Lawmakers Pass Parental Notice Bill (Florida)
AP ^ | 5-6-05 | Jackie Hallifax

Posted on 05/06/2005 12:09:50 PM PDT by STARWISE

TALLAHASSEE, Fla. (AP) - Parents would be told when their minor daughters seek abortions under a bill the Legislature passed Friday.

A 96-14 vote in the House sent the measure (CS-HB 1659) to Gov. Jeb Bush, who had signed a similar parental notice bill into law in 1999 only to have it blocked by the courts.

Lawmakers were widely expected to pass a new parental notice law this session after voters approved a constitutional amendment in November to address the legal obstacles. But the House and Senate developed parental notice bills that had significant differences.

The two chambers worked out their differences Thursday and the Senate passed the bill 36-3, sending it to the House to vote on the final day of the two-month session.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; Philosophy; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: 48hours; abortion; doctors; florida; minors; notification; parental; parentalnotification; under18
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I'm hoping it will benefit this case Judge OKs Abortion for Girl, 13, whose Mother I heard voicing her opposition. Do parents have ANY parental rights at all??
1 posted on 05/06/2005 12:09:50 PM PDT by STARWISE
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To: STARWISE

That girl was a ward of the state, I believe that her mother's rights had been terminated. If so, as unfortunate as this is, the girl's mother has no say.


2 posted on 05/06/2005 12:13:29 PM PDT by Jersey Republican Biker Chick (People too weak to follow their own dreams, will always find a way to discourage yours.)
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3 posted on 05/06/2005 12:13:50 PM PDT by Joe Brower (The Constitution defines Conservatism. *NRA*)
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To: STARWISE
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Any time a Florida-related thread is created on FreeRepublic, please be sure to add the "Florida" keyword to it so that interested FReepers don't miss it.

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4 posted on 05/06/2005 12:14:15 PM PDT by Joe Brower (The Constitution defines Conservatism. *NRA*)
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Frankly I think its depressing that this law wasn't already in place. I'm also depressed to know that other adults were being so irresponsible and letting minors have abortions without parental consent.

In the case of the 13 year old; the mother has her own problems and probably isn't the best face to put on TV for the conservative point of view.
5 posted on 05/06/2005 12:17:49 PM PDT by ReeseKev27 (Boycott liberal institutions, France, the Dixie Chicks and GOOGLE :))
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Do parents have ANY parental rights at all??

rothflho parental rights? What do you think this is mid-evil Europe?

I suppose this bill has the typical judicial bypass so that a judge can listen to a pathetic teenager tell him how mean her parents are so she can't tell them. This never made any sense to me. If the girl was REALY being abused shouldn't she be put into protective custody? And since they usually aren't really 'going to kill her' as she thinks they are, the judge should hand her a telephone to call her parents and tell them the truth. He can reassure her that she is safe in his courtroom and when they cool off, they'll come get her.

6 posted on 05/06/2005 12:19:14 PM PDT by eccentric (a.k.a. baldwidow)
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To: STARWISE

If the law is eventually signed, get ready for the Liberal Activists Judges to render it invalid.


7 posted on 05/06/2005 12:19:20 PM PDT by frogjerk
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To: Joe Brower

Hi Joe -- I think I did that.


8 posted on 05/06/2005 12:20:35 PM PDT by STARWISE
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To: STARWISE

Here is the scoop on this.

FL did have a prior parental notification law by the FL appeals courts used the constitutional privacy amendment to say that such a restriction of abortions violated the FL constitution. (the privacy amendment was inserted in part in anticipation of the day when Roe vs. Wade was overturned and abortion returned to the states. FL enumerated privacy where the USSC created it out of thin air.)

SOOOOO, the citizens of FL passed a constitutional amendment which trumped the privacy amendment with respect to juvenile abortions. Soooo, the prior reasons could not be used to keep parents in the dark. In addition it does provide for judge review of a child who wants an abortion but then must PROVE the mother AND father would harm her if they are informed.

It is now up to the republican majority of FL to start appointing conservative judges. The cronies of the FL Bar Judicial Nominating system must be dumped.


9 posted on 05/06/2005 12:27:23 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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To: STARWISE
Here's something that has always baffled me about this parental-consent thing. Pro-abortionists are against parental consent for minors to have abortions. However, for any medical procedure, a minor must have parental consent. So, since abortion is nothing more than a medical procedure in the minds of said pro-abortionists, why would they balk at parental consent for an abortion?

I'll never understand the "logic" of the left.

10 posted on 05/06/2005 12:30:16 PM PDT by Luna (Lobbing the Holy Hand Grenade at Liberalism)
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Good question. I haven't heard anything other than that this addresses the parents right to be notified about an impending abortion, not whether or not the parents of the pregnant minor have the right or authority to stop one.


11 posted on 05/06/2005 12:30:47 PM PDT by contemplator
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"Frankly I think its depressing that this law wasn't already in place. I'm also depressed to know that other adults were being so irresponsible and letting minors have abortions without parental consent."

I find it depressing that irresponsible parents don't know that their kids are having sex until the government informs them that the kid wants an abortion.

12 posted on 05/06/2005 12:30:57 PM PDT by blaquebyrd
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To: contemplator

It is actually a two step legislating process.

Previous efforts at parental consent were shot down so we have gone to the interim step of parental notification.

Once "A" law regading abortion limitation is upheld then the rest can be done piecemeal since judges will not allow any outright prohibitions.


13 posted on 05/06/2005 12:36:18 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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To: Luna

Oh no! Abortionists don't want us to think of it as a MEDICAL procedure, because then their slaughterhouses would have to comply with reasonable standards for medical facilities. In my home state of MD, the murderous fiends are fighting tooth and nail to keep from having to meet the same standards as medical facilities.


14 posted on 05/06/2005 12:38:33 PM PDT by BMIC
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To: BMIC

So basically they want a back-alley type atmosphere in which to kill babies? And I thought RoevWade was supposed to end back-alley abortions!


15 posted on 05/06/2005 12:46:32 PM PDT by Luna (Lobbing the Holy Hand Grenade at Liberalism)
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To: Luna

It's simple.....they're insane.


16 posted on 05/06/2005 12:48:42 PM PDT by anniegetyourgun
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To: STARWISE

She already had the abortion. Probably paid with tax dollars. . . .


17 posted on 05/06/2005 1:04:50 PM PDT by tutstar ( <{{--->< Impeach Judge Greer http://www.petitiononline.com/ijg520/petition.html)
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To: anniegetyourgun
The light's on, but nobody's home.

And one of my personal favorites:

They fell from the stupid tree and hit every branch on the way down.

18 posted on 05/06/2005 1:06:07 PM PDT by Luna (Lobbing the Holy Hand Grenade at Liberalism)
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To: Luna

You are right. Parental notification for abortion should be the default condition. If a liberal state wanted to grant minors the right to abortion without parental consent, that should require legislative action.


19 posted on 05/06/2005 1:07:58 PM PDT by sportutegrl (You can take my sport utility when you pry my cold dead hands from the keys.)
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To: anniegetyourgun

life groups make on common mistake about abortion advocates, for them it is not about baby or even a fetus. They view the ability to stop a pregnancy as a means of stopping men from using women. Their goal in mandating abortion is saying that THEY control life. It only exists at their political whim.

It is all intertwined in the Martha Burk, bull dyke, political agenda of removing family from the polical speech. It is the only way ugly women become important.


20 posted on 05/06/2005 1:09:27 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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