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Wild Horses Sold by U.S. Agency Sent to Slaughter
National Geographic News ^ | May 5, 2005 | Maryann Mott

Posted on 05/06/2005 6:33:43 AM PDT by ZULU

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"Thirty-five of the Sioux-bought horses and all six of the Oklahoma man's horses ended up at Cavel International in DeKalb, Illinois, where they were slaughtered. One of three foreign-owned slaughterhouses in the United States, Cavel ships horse meat overseas for human consumption."

Probably to our "Friends and Allies" the French.

1 posted on 05/06/2005 6:33:43 AM PDT by ZULU
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Floyd Schwieger, a retired minister and board member of the Pryor Mountain Wild Mustang Center in Lovell, Wyoming, supports the new law and the government's effort to reduce the horse population. Sending excess animals to slaughter is fine, he says, as long as it's done without cruelty.

"I would like to see the federal government simply have their own slaughterhouse," he said. The meat could "be given to the poor and needy people around the world, compliments of the United States government, as a means to help alleviate the suffering in the world."


First paragraph good, think guy has potential, second one not so good.


2 posted on 05/06/2005 6:36:47 AM PDT by PeterPrinciple
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To: ZULU

The French eat horses...don't they?


3 posted on 05/06/2005 6:44:15 AM PDT by joesnuffy (The generation that survived the depression and won WW2 proved poverty does not cause crime)
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To: PeterPrinciple

Personally I find eating horseflesh, dogflesh or catflesh disgusting and unnatural.

I prefer beef, venison, pork, wild boar, bison, poultry and perhaps a liberal or two when the opportunity presents itself.


4 posted on 05/06/2005 6:45:01 AM PDT by ZULU (Fear the government which fears your guns. God, guts, and guns made America great.)
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There are still horse meat shops in Paris. The French have been eating horses for years.


5 posted on 05/06/2005 6:45:28 AM PDT by RushCrush (Next thing you know Bill Clinton will be advocating celibacy!)
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Horse-eating surrender monkeys.


6 posted on 05/06/2005 6:46:11 AM PDT by dfwgator (Minutemen: Just doing the jobs that American politicians won't do.)
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To: PeterPrinciple

Yeah..second paragraph not so good..

It would be much cheaper for the government to simply take
10% of whatever anyone earns and just give it away to those
foreigners or illegal aliens more needy than the people who actually earned the money.


7 posted on 05/06/2005 6:46:41 AM PDT by joesnuffy (The generation that survived the depression and won WW2 proved poverty does not cause crime)
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"I would like to see the federal government simply have their own slaughterhouse," he said. The meat could "be given to the poor and needy people around the world, compliments of the United States government, as a means to help alleviate the suffering in the world."

Better yet, just give guns to the poor so they can slaughter their own. Cut out the middle man.

8 posted on 05/06/2005 6:47:23 AM PDT by RushCrush (Next thing you know Bill Clinton will be advocating celibacy!)
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To: HairOfTheDog

Saddle Club Thread ping


9 posted on 05/06/2005 6:50:46 AM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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Ok, question.

How legitimate is this story?

I just did a few searches for Cavel International in DeKalb, Illinois

The only sites I'm pulling are PETA and PETA related domains.

Of course this story is suppose to incite rage.

But that is also how PETA functions.

How can we verify any of this out side of PETA?


10 posted on 05/06/2005 6:53:58 AM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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Sell it to the highest bidder on behalf of the taxpayer. I was fed horsemeat when I was a student in France. It is tough.


11 posted on 05/06/2005 6:56:45 AM PDT by ClaireSolt (.)
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I'm reading a mail server account now that claims the company was burning to the ground.

>>>>Gurnee Review
April 15, 2004
Angela Sykora

Osmond voted against the ban and said she spoke with officials from the Department of Agriculture who had nothing but good things to say about the Cavel International, a DeKalb-based slaughter house that ships horses overseas. The business burned to the ground and will reopen soon.<<<<<<

Trying to find out now if it is reopened.


12 posted on 05/06/2005 6:56:50 AM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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If they bought the horses legally, it's their business what they do with them.


13 posted on 05/06/2005 6:58:29 AM PDT by B Knotts (Viva il Papa!)
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"Personally I find eating horseflesh, dogflesh or catflesh disgusting and unnatural.

I prefer beef, venison, pork, wild boar, bison, poultry and perhaps a liberal or two when the opportunity presents itself."

Tend to agree with you but did you ever wonder why. Why is it called cat food and dog food instead of cat feed and dog feed? It is still called horse feed. Ate some (horse) on the airline flying into Mongolia once..it was ok.


14 posted on 05/06/2005 7:12:13 AM PDT by PeterPrinciple
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I have a problem with this program. Why is the government selling these horses for $1 a piece?

There are too many horses on BLM land. The population needs to be managed.

The horses are offered up for adoption first. If they are not adopted, they should be auctioned off.


15 posted on 05/06/2005 7:12:21 AM PDT by untrained skeptic
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Beats me. It was in the National Geographic Web Site.

I read the article and "horse meat" plus "sold to foreign consumers" and our "Friends and Allies" the French immediately came to mind in one lighting like chain of connections.


16 posted on 05/06/2005 7:24:26 AM PDT by ZULU (Fear the government which fears your guns. God, guts, and guns made America great.)
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Not questioning you. I would post from National Geographic too.

PETA just always makes me suspicious. I can't think of one good cause they have ever been involved in that didn't have another motive.

BLM's website is offline too:

http://www.nifc.gov/offline/

"The BLM External Web presence has been disconnected while we make modifications to the site that will enhance the security of our Web sites."


17 posted on 05/06/2005 7:27:43 AM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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I don't like the slaughter of pet horses... Will always argue against that. These Mustangs are a tougher problem to solve, there are no feel-good answers.

Ford Motor Company, maker of the Mustang car, then paid $20,000 to buy the horses back from Cavel and a horse broker.

Now that's a cool gesture no matter what.

Ping!


18 posted on 05/06/2005 7:28:49 AM PDT by HairOfTheDog (This horse has been milked to death.)
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"Why is it called cat food and dog food instead of cat feed and dog feed?"

I guess there are a lot of oddities in any language.

Like "How are you doing?" as a greeting. How are you doing what??? (In German it's "Wie geht's?" Which means "How is it going with you?" - How is WHAT going with me?)

"Take care" as a parting statement. Take care of what?

"Como se llama Usted?" meaning "What do you call yourself" for "What's your name?" in Spanish. What I call myslef isn't important. Its what other people call me.

Languages can be weird.


19 posted on 05/06/2005 7:29:29 AM PDT by ZULU (Fear the government which fears your guns. God, guts, and guns made America great.)
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PETA's problem is they can recognize a problem but then they come up with a hair-brained assinine solution to it.
Like equating people with animals.

Animals should be treated humanely, but they aren't humans.

"The BLM External Web presence has been disconnected while we make modifications to the site that will enhance the security of our Web sites."


Maybe someday we will read "Due to technical difficulties the government has been shut down." and we'll all be better off for it.


20 posted on 05/06/2005 7:32:17 AM PDT by ZULU (Fear the government which fears your guns. God, guts, and guns made America great.)
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