Blair may decide to quit sooner than expected

The Daily Telegraph ^ | May 6, 2005 | Rachel Sylvester

[firebrand]

Don't go. You have a full chapter of Anglophiles Anonymous on this forum. Just tell the crumb bums off.

[Chunga]

Bologna. Your post is a case study in miscomprehension and misdirection. "Level of vitriol?"

Calling Laura Bush a slut is measured debate? You take the opposite side of that level of sleaze to task? Nice work dirtboy!

I leave this thread to those wishing Ivan well, which I also do.

[Lando Lincoln]

That was a cheap shot without evidence.

Not really since it is my opinion - and expressed as such. ......But, if you read the discourse on Mrs. Bush recently; the obscure, tangential way TS can be brought up; the Kansas education debate, etc...... And - I'll risk sounding cute or coy here - evangelical can mean other, perhaps more abstract things. Read the immigration threads and what kind of response any FReeper will receive should they make the mistake of agreeing with current policy. The caustic passion displayed is truly amazing - and far too often, personal. It's a shame.

Lando

[snugs]

So in a nutshell because we have more strict gun control than to you it equates with having no rights and freedom?

[unbalanced but fair]

I totally agree with everything you said. I really believe that many of the people who have left simply got tired of wading through the paranoia and rantings that are carried into any thread and often had nothing to do with the topic. Or they got tired of trying to debate a topic where the other side believed that any debate was "evil."

[conservatism_IS_compassion]

Dang! Our door is always open for you!

I move that, should MadIvan post again in the future,

any invidious allusion to Reply #1 of this thread be recognized by the Moderators as an abuse to be instantly expunged from such thread.

[Brad’s Gramma]

Ivan, please reconsider this...you're one of FR's best.

[cooper72]

When it comes to American and British relations, all we should have to say is "World War II" and the British should say "Thank you, what do you need us to do?" That is a debt which will not soon be repaid, unless you think that living under Hitler's thumb would have somehow been preferable.

It always amazes me this argument. Why should Britain and the rest of the commonwealth apologise or kiss-ass because they fought Nazi Germany alone for two years when the rest of the world stood and watched?

[snugs]

And they were damned glad to get out of the coal mines to America where they could own their own land,

I bet if a poll was taken and the percentage worked out of how many people in Britain own their own property/home and then the same survey taken in America I think you would be very surprised in the result

[Lead Moderator]

Well said.

[dirtboy]

Calling Laura Bush a slut is measured debate?

That was one poster who said that, was taken to task and who subsquently apologized. However, the attacks were against everyone who thought Laura might have been out of line - and they were vicious.

You take the opposite side of that level of sleaze to task? Nice work dirtboy!

Ah, so you use what one or two posters said to brand the entire other side. Nice propaganda technique, Chunga.

Have a nice day.

[Howlin]

I don't understand why the pro-Greer people are trolling MadIvan's threads..

"Your Honor, I'd like to have this post marked as an exhibit."

[Eva]

I'm sorry to see you leave, I've enjoyed your posts from across the pond. It sounds to me as though you have run into some of the one issue Freepers and just plain disruptors who post purposely contrary and inflamatory statements to cause trouble between Freepers. There has been a large proliferation of these posters of late. I even received a threat from one after I exposed his disruptive posts and multiple identities.

[snugs]

Here are the Scotish results

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/shared/vote2005/html/region_7.stm

[Eurotwit]

"So all Welshmen live down the mines"

They do. Ali G told me so :-)

[Chunga]

Can you not read? I didn't brand the entire other side. I said "some" of the posters sliming Laura were Democrats. "Some." As in "some."

"Some" doesn't equate to "the entire other side."

Posting to you is wasting my time.

Good luck Ivan and thanks for the posts from the British papers, which I read ravenously.

[Gritty]

Please reconsider your decision to leave. I have enjoyed and respected your comments, presence, viewpoint and overall common sense on this board - even when I didn't always agree with your every position. We need people like you here.

[Irish_Thatcherite]

It always amazes me this argument. Why should Britain and the rest of the commonwealth apologise or kiss-ass because they fought Nazi Germany alone for two years when the rest of the world stood and watched?

Exactly, Ireland disgraced Herself by staying neutral, but your "blood, toil, sweat and tears" kept the Nazis out Ireland.

Cooper, we had a couple of disagreements before, but I agree with you here, and I hope your fellow countryman stays!

[blackie]

"Anyhow, I need to get over there to see the Goodwood Festival one of these days...."

Roger that and the Isle of Man TT Race!