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Gang follows illegal aliens
The Washington Times ^ | 5-5-05 | Jon Ward

Posted on 05/05/2005 10:58:26 AM PDT by JZelle

The violent MS-13 -- or Mara Salvatrucha -- street gang is following the migratory routes of illegal aliens across the country, FBI officials say, calling the Salvadoran gang the new American mafia. MS-13, which has a significant presence in the Washington area, and other gangs are spreading into small towns and suburbs by following illegal aliens seeking work in places such as Providence, R.I., and the Carolinas, FBI task force director Robert Clifford said. "The migrant moves and the gang follows," said Mr. Clifford, director of the agency's MS-13 National Gang Task Force. "If you follow the construction trade, this is where a lot of these immigrants go."

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To: joesnuffy

Order out of chaos.


21 posted on 05/05/2005 11:52:08 AM PDT by BigBadWolf (For every animal you don't eat, I'm going to eat three.)
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To: JZelle

in Los Angeles we are told one of the initiation rites is to kill a random stranger. Similiar to happy slapping in England but with a little more finality


22 posted on 05/05/2005 11:53:32 AM PDT by Republicus2001
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To: DumpsterDiver
[ ... the Mafia killed 1,111 persons from 1919 to 2004 [85 years]... ]

That YOU know of..

23 posted on 05/05/2005 11:54:56 AM PDT by hosepipe (This Propaganda has been edited to include not a small amount of Hyperbole..)
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To: Republicus2001

"in Los Angeles we are told one of the initiation rites is to kill a random stranger. Similiar to happy slapping in England but with a little more finality"

Do they use that headlight trick or is that just an urban legend?


24 posted on 05/05/2005 11:55:01 AM PDT by JZelle
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To: henkster

The Freeper stories and experiences are priceless. Nice story.


25 posted on 05/05/2005 11:58:39 AM PDT by Idisarthur
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To: cripplecreek
We're going to have Fallujah on American streets.

yes, and the government will try their best to hide the stats on crime by illegals. O'Reilly (whom I don't usually care for that much) has been good on immigration. Last night he had someone who worked with Aschroft ?sp? The guy stated that 1 in 5 people in Federal prison is an illegal. What I found astounding, was that he stated that nationwide 1/3 of all incarcerated people are illegals. If that is true, then the immigration problem is much worse than stated.

26 posted on 05/05/2005 11:59:01 AM PDT by liberty2004
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To: beltfed308
MS-13, which has a significant presence in the Washington area

good, maybe the ruling class will finally take action (dreaming, I know). I don't know if this is correct, but I thought I remember some report on TV stating that there are over 50,000 MS-13 gang members nationwide.

27 posted on 05/05/2005 12:00:43 PM PDT by liberty2004
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To: injin

these MS13 bangers should be shot on sight , no mercy , just rid humanity of this blight in the gene pool....


28 posted on 05/05/2005 12:04:52 PM PDT by injin
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To: Republicus2001
n Los Angeles we are told one of the initiation rites is to kill a random strange

I heard that too. Protection from crime is one of the few legitimate functions of government -- and it does that task quite poorly. I fear the coming years will be quite tumultuous in this land. The immigration problem will accelerate to a crisis that will rip at the core of this Republic. I pray we have the fortitude to do the right thing and seal out borders and expel all illegals. Our culture, our values, our very existence will be at risk because our so called leaders cannot face reality and do the right damn thing.

29 posted on 05/05/2005 12:06:03 PM PDT by liberty2004
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To: injin
these MS13 bangers should be shot on sight , no mercy , just rid humanity of this blight in the gene pool....

That would be true justice, but the evil ACLU would get their panties in a wad. I can imagine that in the offices of the ACLU there are smiles at the violence of the gangs, cheers at the increasing flood of immigrants and shouts of joy every time an brave American soldier is killed fighting terrorism. The enemies within our land pose a much greater threat to the survival of this Republic than any enemy outside our borders.

30 posted on 05/05/2005 12:08:40 PM PDT by liberty2004
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To: joesnuffy

"Thesis,Antithesis,Synthesis
Social Change by managed and incremental crisis"

You nailed it but there ain't nobody listening.


31 posted on 05/05/2005 12:17:55 PM PDT by dljordan
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To: cripplecreek
I hear that they attack buses to steal from the passengers. Occassionally some people die.

Do you remember the story as of last year where in Nicaragua a prison was set on fire and many prisoners were BarBQ. I believe 150 prisoners died.

I think those prisoners were MS-13 Members.

That happens in other Countries, I can't ever see it happening in the States. Here in the states we love freedom and in turn innocent law abiding citizens get victimized and in some case victimized twice.

What I can't resolve for myself is, how can we sit here and make victims out to be victimized twice. Once by the criminal and the second time by the Justice system that can bePro Criminal. It's a tough situation but I'd love to hear your thought.

The difficulty is in Subjective calls by Judges on technicalities, corrupt Policing and even dealing with the Pro Criminal Lobby - The Mumia Lobby.

32 posted on 05/05/2005 12:23:07 PM PDT by Idisarthur
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To: JZelle

Insanity, Mr. President!


33 posted on 05/05/2005 12:25:48 PM PDT by JesseHousman (Execute Mumia Abu-Jamal Today)
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To: JZelle
The violent MS-13 -- or Mara Salvatrucha -- street gang is following the migratory routes of illegal aliens across the country, FBI officials say...

But, they're only here to do the jobs on one wants to do, is that what we keep hearing? Who in their right mind believes that anymore?

34 posted on 05/05/2005 12:25:56 PM PDT by Reaganwuzthebest
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To: henkster

"They were all Salvadoran death squad members, most of them killed their first person before they were teens."
Where did you find this tid bit of mis-information.


35 posted on 05/05/2005 1:02:52 PM PDT by em2vn
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To: JZelle

"Do they use that headlight trick or is that just an urban legend?"

Normally I trust Snopes and the article makes a good case for the hoax-ness of the headlight trick, BUT, fore-armed is fore-armed!

http://www.snopes.com/horrors/madmen/lightout.asp

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36 posted on 05/05/2005 1:10:42 PM PDT by petro45acp (SUPPORT/BE YOUR LOCAL SHEEPDOG!!!!)
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To: JZelle; Eaker; humblegunner
They come with targets already installed!


37 posted on 05/05/2005 1:16:10 PM PDT by Flyer (If I were 8 pixels tall I could fit in my tag line)
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To: JZelle
I think I just downloaded MS-13 on my last critical update!!

I'm gettin' FIREFOX now.

38 posted on 05/05/2005 1:17:50 PM PDT by DainBramage
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To: liberty2004

Protection from crime....a legitimate function of government??????

If anyone is counting on government to protect them,from criminality, they are barking up a strange tree. EVERY oath taken by government officials has a paraphrase of "support/protect and defend the constitution" in it. If one is relying on police to defend one, better check out "DIAL 911 and DIE." It shows that LE is not LIABLE and has no duty to protect individuals. Two states only have situations where LE "malpractice" is litigatable in court.

Best bet is to acquier the means/tools of self-defense, train like a pro, and always have at least the outline of a plan.

Bleek, pessimistic outlook? Maybe, but more in line with ground truth than relying on government.

Cheers,
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39 posted on 05/05/2005 1:19:29 PM PDT by petro45acp (SUPPORT/BE YOUR LOCAL SHEEPDOG!!!!)
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To: cripplecreek

Nah!!There are small towns in the US that wont put up with it. Get the vigilantes, bring a rope and find a tree.


40 posted on 05/05/2005 1:30:58 PM PDT by Americanexpat (A strong democracy through citizen oversight.)
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