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Measure Aims for a Separate Border Patrol for California
San Diego Union-Tribune ^ | May 5, 2005 | Ed Mendel

Posted on 05/05/2005 9:30:10 AM PDT by kellynla

SACRAMENTO – A new state police agency to patrol the border and crack down on businesses that hire illegal immigrants would be created by an initiative filed yesterday, adding to the debate over the emotional issue.

The proposal from a conservative group comes after Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger praised the controversial Minuteman Project and as Congress considers new restrictions sparked by terrorism concerns.

The "California Border Police Act" is being pushed by Assemblyman Ray Haynes, R-Murrieta, and Rescue California, a group advocating tougher border enforcement. But neither could estimate the cost of creating a police force and special prison facilities.

But the initiative's supporters contend that it would save California money in the long run by reducing the cost of providing education, health, prisons and other services for illegal immigrants.

Schwarzenegger, who took office in a 2003 recall election that Rescue California helped put on the ballot, has drawn national attention to illegal immigration with remarks criticized by Latino leaders.

The Republican governor last week praised the Minuteman border volunteers in Arizona, comparing them to Neighborhood Watch groups. Critics pointed out that President Bush has called them vigilantes.

Earlier, Schwarzenegger created a stir when he said the border should be "closed," then corrected himself by saying he meant "secured."

The initiative, written by Haynes, was not intended to qualify for a special election Schwarzenegger has threatened to call for November, but would be targeted for the ballot next year.

Haynes said he has been working on the measure for three weeks to a month, before the governor made his remarks.

"The initiative is comprehensive, statewide and uniform," Haynes said. "It addresses the supply and the demand side, both the employers who support illegal immigrants and the illegals who come across the border."

(Excerpt) Read more at signonsandiego.com ...


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"A spokesman for Schwarzenegger said the governor has no position on the initiative." No balls!
1 posted on 05/05/2005 9:30:11 AM PDT by kellynla
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To: calcowgirl

ping


2 posted on 05/05/2005 9:30:44 AM PDT by kellynla (U.S.M.C. 1st Battalion,5th Marine Regiment, 1st Marine Div. Viet Nam 69&70 Semper Fi)
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In addition, Haynes said, he was influenced by the proposals of sheriffs in several Southern California counties, including Orange County Sheriff Mike Carona.

The sheriffs want to use a provision in a 1996 federal immigration law that allows local officers to be trained to enforce immigration law under agreements negotiated with Immigration and Customs Enforcement.

The goal of Carona and the other sheriffs is to use the local officers not to halt illegal immigration, but to help remove criminals from the streets and ease jail overcrowding.

Several dozen local officers have been trained under the little-used federal law in Florida and Alabama, according to news reports, and state and county police agencies nationwide are talking about joining the federal program.

Round 'em up and send 'em home!
Almost 30% of LA County Jail "residents" are illegals. It should eliminate overcrowding.

3 posted on 05/05/2005 9:38:00 AM PDT by calcowgirl
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To: kellynla
Arnold Schwarzenegger praised the controversial Minuteman Project and as Congress considers new restrictions sparked by terrorism concerns. There's the problem. This is not a controversial issue, its upholding laws that make common sense, but the feds have let slide for far too long! Keep on truckin' minutemen!!!
4 posted on 05/05/2005 9:43:11 AM PDT by No_More_Harkin
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To: No_More_Harkin

Ever try to drive into California with a piece of fruit in your car? If they can stop you to look for something as small as an orange, they should be able to stop you for something as big as an illegal alien


5 posted on 05/05/2005 9:47:45 AM PDT by lOKKI (You can ignore reality until it bites you in the ass.)
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To: No_More_Harkin
I'm starting to think that being called a "racist" is a good thing. When a liberal calls you a name, thats when you know you're on the right side of the issue.
6 posted on 05/05/2005 10:05:14 AM PDT by Mulch (tm)
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To: calcowgirl

It was reported by an attorney last night on O'Reilly, who used to work for the feds(I forget his name and position) that ONE THIRD OF ALL PRISONERS IN AMERICA(which includes federal, state and locals) are ILLGEAL ALIENS!
Imagine the savings if we secured the border and ports and deported all the illegal except those on death row which we could be executed ASAP!


7 posted on 05/05/2005 10:05:56 AM PDT by kellynla (U.S.M.C. 1st Battalion,5th Marine Regiment, 1st Marine Div. Viet Nam 69&70 Semper Fi)
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To: kellynla

Here's the link to the proposed initiative language:

http://www.rescuecalifornia.com/language/


8 posted on 05/05/2005 10:40:15 AM PDT by absalom01
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To: absalom01

bad link


9 posted on 05/05/2005 11:38:17 AM PDT by kellynla (U.S.M.C. 1st Battalion,5th Marine Regiment, 1st Marine Div. Viet Nam 69&70 Semper Fi)
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To: kellynla

I like this initiative for two reasons: 1. because it enables the residents of a state afflicted by illegal immigration to do want an unwilling and politically hamstrung Federal Government will not do, and 2. because it would be paid for by Californians, who will know what they're getting (accountability), and will know the costs, benefits and risks. This is how small "d" democracy can trump both entrenched interests and racial politics.


10 posted on 05/05/2005 12:14:59 PM PDT by pawdoggie
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I don't think this initiative will ever see the light of day. Even if it gets passed.
California is so deep in debt, it can't even afford to pay attention!

When we recalled the Dimwit Davis, the debt was 30 BIILION, today it's 40 BILLION and counting....
I'm just waiting for the other shoe to drop and the state to file BK!

The feds owe CA NINE BILLION A YEAR for allowing the illegals to stay here and it's about time that W ponies up to the proverbial bar and PAYS THE FRIGGIN' TAB!!
11 posted on 05/05/2005 12:23:36 PM PDT by kellynla (U.S.M.C. 1st Battalion,5th Marine Regiment, 1st Marine Div. Viet Nam 69&70 Semper Fi)
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To: kellynla

The first one works for me, but here's an alias

http://www.calborderpolice.com/language/

Mabye that will work better.


12 posted on 05/05/2005 1:58:33 PM PDT by absalom01
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To: absalom01

thank you
that's a good link


13 posted on 05/05/2005 2:21:05 PM PDT by kellynla (U.S.M.C. 1st Battalion,5th Marine Regiment, 1st Marine Div. Viet Nam 69&70 Semper Fi)
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To: kellynla

bump


14 posted on 05/05/2005 4:32:39 PM PDT by 4.1O dana super trac pak (Stop the open borders death cult)
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