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Polish carrier may buy Boeing jets (787s)
CNN Money ^ | May 5, 2005 | Reuters

Posted on 05/05/2005 7:41:28 AM PDT by wk4bush2004

WARSAW (Reuters) - Poland's national airline LOT is likely to pick Boeing over rival Airbus in a $500 million-plus tender to lease long-haul jets, a source close to the tender said Thursday. "The final decision is not made yet, but until now the decision process was heading in this direction (picking Boeing)," the source told Reuters. Heavyweight Polish daily Rzeczpospolita reported LOT's supervisory board, due to announce the winner of its tender to lease six long-haul passenger jets next Friday, had opted for U.S. airliners because of lower maintenance costs. Boeing is offering its 787 Dreamliner and Airbus its A330-200 model to replace LOT's current fleet of Boeing 767. Neither company would comment on the report. "We don't know anything. It is the airline who makes the decision. We don't comment," Eric Jullien, regional sales director for Airbus, told Reuters. "We are waiting for LOT to announce it. Until now, we cannot say yes and we cannot say no," a Boeing spokeswoman said. The decision on the planes, which will replace LOT's current fleet of Boeing 767s used mainly on transatlantic routes, has become a political issue, with both European leaders and Washington lobbying Warsaw to choose their own aircraft manufacturer. LOT and Polish government officials have repeatedly said the decision will be made solely on commercial grounds.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy
KEYWORDS: 787; a330; a350; airbus; boeing; lot; poland; skywars
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Yes! I knew Poland wouldn't let the Airbus lobbyists threaten and get in their way.
1 posted on 05/05/2005 7:41:29 AM PDT by wk4bush2004
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To: wk4bush2004

That 787 must be a hellava plane. Its beginning to look like Airbus bet too much on that giant 380. Outside transatlantic/transpacific routes I wonder exactly how much need there is to be able to get 600-700 passengers on one route.


2 posted on 05/05/2005 7:48:27 AM PDT by An Old Marine
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To: wk4bush2004

I'm not normally in favor of government intervention, but it seems like the U.S. government ought to take some steps to "sweeten the deal" to reward the Poles for their support and make the decision to go Boeing a bit easier to make.


3 posted on 05/05/2005 7:48:53 AM PDT by babyface00
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To: wk4bush2004

They need to lock the windows in the Airbus skyscraper. Any more bad news and them dudes are going to have to start working on their coping skills.


4 posted on 05/05/2005 7:51:18 AM PDT by Rammer
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To: babyface00

I have no doubt there will be some aid package out of Congress that will go to Seattle, not Warsaw.


5 posted on 05/05/2005 7:51:24 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: An Old Marine

Airbus' projectins for demand for the A380 are way off. It is true that some routes will warrant the A380 but most won't. And when you have major airports, including Atlanta (the busiest in the world) saying that they will not take the A380, that's saying something.

Airbus will never turn a profit on the A380. It could potentially lead them into bankruptcy (of course, we can expect our socialist friends in Europe to pump blood into a mortally wounded animal).


6 posted on 05/05/2005 7:54:35 AM PDT by wk4bush2004
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To: wk4bush2004
Poland has an aircraft carrier?
7 posted on 05/05/2005 7:56:10 AM PDT by austinite
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To: austinite

No, airline carrier. LOT Polish Airlines.


8 posted on 05/05/2005 7:57:29 AM PDT by wk4bush2004
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To: wk4bush2004

I'm still trying to figure out the time it'd take to board 550 people, let alone disembark. This many people seems closer to a passenger ship where you can get on over a two day period in port...


9 posted on 05/05/2005 7:58:22 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: wk4bush2004

AirBus A380 = the Maginot Line of the 21st Century.


10 posted on 05/05/2005 8:01:09 AM PDT by N. Theknow (Planned Parenthood is neither.)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

I've heard a Boeing 747-400 takes about 1 hour to 1 hour & 30 minutes for boarding. I couldn't even imagine an A380. Probably at least 2 hours.


11 posted on 05/05/2005 8:01:23 AM PDT by wk4bush2004
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

Isn't Boeing in St. Louis now?


12 posted on 05/05/2005 8:05:32 AM PDT by krb (ad hominem arguments are for stupid people)
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To: austinite

Beat me to it!!


13 posted on 05/05/2005 8:05:41 AM PDT by CedarDave
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To: krb

St. Louis is the former headquarters of McDonnell Dougals which was consumed in a merger deal with Boeing back in the 90's. The headquarters for Boeing is now in Chicago.


14 posted on 05/05/2005 8:11:04 AM PDT by jettester (I got paid to break 'em - not fly 'em)
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To: jettester

Sorry, "Dougals" s/b "Douglas."


15 posted on 05/05/2005 8:12:17 AM PDT by jettester (I got paid to break 'em - not fly 'em)
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To: wk4bush2004
Thats my point. I didn't even know about Atlanta not wanting the 380 but too much of that is going to kill that plane for certain. The trend on most routes for years has been towards smaller more economical planes. I've been flying a few times a week for years. There used to be all sorts of empty seats on planes but full planes are more and more common.

You are right that this might really hurt Airbus. Its not the first time that a buiness bet on the wrong product and got hurt. Youa re also right that the European governments will almost certainly bail out Airbus. They have too much prestige tied up in haveing temperorily overtaken Boeing.

What may ultimately be different is that Europeans are not investing nearly enough in military aircraft research. as years go by most of that money will go to Boeing and Northrop too.

16 posted on 05/05/2005 8:15:23 AM PDT by An Old Marine
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To: N. Theknow

"AirBus A380 = the Maginot Line of the 21st Century"

That is hillarious. But a great analogy.


17 posted on 05/05/2005 8:17:42 AM PDT by ChinaThreat (s)
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To: krb

Corporate office is in Chicago. Still build the planes in Washington State.


18 posted on 05/05/2005 8:29:34 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: wk4bush2004

Uh Oh! Their betters in gay paris and berlin will not be pleased with this insolence.


19 posted on 05/05/2005 8:30:54 AM PDT by epluribus_2
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To: An Old Marine

Youre right. The 787 is really heating up the market. This isn't politics. Commercial airlines want the best equipment and the 787 is obviously it. The 777 has been doing very well lately also.


20 posted on 05/05/2005 8:31:45 AM PDT by ChinaThreat (s)
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