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China to Top U.S. in Broadband Subscribers
Electronic News ^ | 5/4/2005 | Online staff -- Electronic News

Posted on 05/04/2005 8:55:28 PM PDT by Wayne07

If the competitiveness of nations can be measured by their broadband subscriber rolls, then the United States is on the verge of losing its leadership to China, market researchers at iSuppli Corp. suggest.

China already is rapidly approaching the United States as the country with the largest number of broadband subscribers, according to the El Segundo, Calif.-based firm, and by the end of the year, China is expected to have 34 million subscribers, compared to 39 million in the United States.

By the end of 2007, China is expected to have 57 million broadband subscribers, compared to 54 million in the United States, with an even wider lead in the years to follow.

(Excerpt) Read more at reed-electronics.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Foreign Affairs; Technical
KEYWORDS: broadband; business; china; globalism; trade
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I think people still have an image of the undeveloped China of 10-20 years ago. It is a modern country and an ecomomic threat. It isn't something you can tariff away.
1 posted on 05/04/2005 8:55:28 PM PDT by Wayne07
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To: MrShoop

Why is this a surprise? A country with a population that dwarfs ours should easily pass us in broadband users. The number we don't want to loose is per capita income.


2 posted on 05/04/2005 9:00:46 PM PDT by AgThorn (Bush is my president, but he needs to protect our borders. FIRST, before any talk of "Amnesty.")
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To: MrShoop

Duuuuuhhhhhh! Of course China will have more broadband subscribers - they have more people! (6 billion vs. < 300 million).


3 posted on 05/04/2005 9:01:14 PM PDT by LibFreeOrDie (L'chaim!)
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To: MrShoop

Tariff... no. Nuke, on the other hand.... ;)


4 posted on 05/04/2005 9:01:21 PM PDT by explodingspleen (http://mish-mash.info/)
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To: MrShoop

"By the end of 2007, China is expected to have 57 million broadband subscribers, compared to 54 million in the United States, with an even wider lead in the years to follow."

China also has 6 to 8 times our population. This means we still have an infrastructure lead. But even if we didn't, so what? That would mean that people don't want broadband because they aren't spending on it.


5 posted on 05/04/2005 9:02:26 PM PDT by New Orleans Slim
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To: New Orleans Slim

No, people WANT it, but they can't get it. Companies are *not* running broadband out to the exurbs.


6 posted on 05/04/2005 9:06:04 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: LibFreeOrDie
Duuuuuhhhhhh! Of course China will have more broadband subscribers - they have more people! (6 billion vs. < 300 million).

Right on your logic, wrong on your math.

China has about 4 times our population, 293,027,571 USA vs 1,190,431,106 China (1996 census)

7 posted on 05/04/2005 9:06:26 PM PDT by AgThorn (Bush is my president, but he needs to protect our borders. FIRST, before any talk of "Amnesty.")
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To: AgThorn

Lose your absolute edge, and then you will lose you per capita edge.


8 posted on 05/04/2005 9:06:45 PM PDT by Wayne07
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To: New Orleans Slim
1,306,313,812 (July 2005 est.)  (source: CIA WORLD FACTBOOK)
9 posted on 05/04/2005 9:07:10 PM PDT by Wally_Kalbacken
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To: New Orleans Slim
The US ranks 20th in broadband subscribers per capita. Broadband connections have often been subsidized in other countries. A lot of the people in the US still get by on 56K dial-up.

Ultimately, I am not sure what this figure tells you. The Chinese government controls or tries to control the content its citizens receive..so garbage in, garbage out.

10 posted on 05/04/2005 9:08:19 PM PDT by Roy Tucker
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To: MrShoop

Yeah. Too bad that most of them can't get past the gov't firewalls to see anything really interesting.


11 posted on 05/04/2005 9:09:01 PM PDT by Alien Gunfighter (Socialist liberals never imagine themselves as peasants under their 'perfect' socialist regime)
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To: MrShoop

I wonder how much of this is the government. I read a post the other day that said they have something like 50 Million bureaucrats in China's government.


12 posted on 05/04/2005 9:09:12 PM PDT by microgood
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To: MrShoop

Probably doesn't mean much anyways if the Chinese waste their time looking a porn too. Maybe broadband account numbers are a poor statistic for the productivity of a nation.


13 posted on 05/04/2005 9:10:04 PM PDT by Last Dakotan
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To: New Orleans Slim
This are the top 10 countries based on per capita income. I just post it to suggest that per capita measurement isn't always as important is absolute measurement.

1. Luxembourg $55,100
2. Norway $37,800
3. United States $37,800
4. Bermuda $36,000
5. Cayman Islands $35,000
6. San Marino, $34,600
7. Switzerland $32,700
8. Denmark, $31,100
9. Iceland $30,900
10. Austria $30,000

14 posted on 05/04/2005 9:11:14 PM PDT by Wayne07
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To: AgThorn

Sorry! I'm hungry, and thinking of the number of hamburgers sold by a certain fast food chain...


15 posted on 05/04/2005 9:11:45 PM PDT by LibFreeOrDie (L'chaim!)
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To: MrShoop

"If the competitiveness of nations can be measured by their broadband subscriber rolls"

It would make South Korea and Finland great raging bears.


16 posted on 05/04/2005 9:11:51 PM PDT by RockinRye
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To: MrShoop
and the top 10 countries by GDP:

1 United States 12,486,624
2 Japan 4,663,823
3 Germany 2,730,109
4 United Kingdom 2,227,551
5 France 2,054,880
6 People's Republic of China 1,772,724
7 Italy 1,709,668
8 Canada 1,034,532
9 Spain 1,019,024
10 India 719,819

17 posted on 05/04/2005 9:13:29 PM PDT by Wayne07
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"If the competitiveness of nations can be measured by their broadband subscriber rolls"

*ahem* Which it isn't, and can't. I'm in no hurry to make the USA into a government managed technocracy, which seems to be what some IT people want, at least that's the idea I get when they complain so much about us 'lagging' the rest of the world in this or that technical category.

I personally think the kids should be turning off the CRTs and throwing the football around.


18 posted on 05/04/2005 9:14:08 PM PDT by RockinRye
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To: RockinRye

I wouldn't want the USA to be a government managed anything - but I'd say that technocracy is a liberating force from the government. I certainly don't more government involvement; the opposite in fact. Let companies free of regulation to build the last mile.


19 posted on 05/04/2005 9:18:29 PM PDT by Wayne07
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To: RockinRye

I think broadband penetration is will be significant leading (not as in top, but as in future) indicator of economic growth and competitiveness.


20 posted on 05/04/2005 9:19:59 PM PDT by Wayne07
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