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1 posted on 05/04/2005 4:45:55 PM PDT by CHARLITE
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To: CHARLITE

Great! Texas will secede and rejoin the Confederacy!


2 posted on 05/04/2005 4:47:14 PM PDT by BnBlFlag (Deo Vindice/Semper Fidelis)
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To: CHARLITE

Just wondering which part of "The Halls of Montezuma" they don't get.


3 posted on 05/04/2005 4:51:03 PM PDT by Celtjew Libertarian (Shake Hands with the Serpent: Poetry by Charles Lipsig aka Celtjew http://books.lulu.com/lipsig)
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I don't have any problem with LA seceding. I'll even send it a bus ticket.


4 posted on 05/04/2005 4:52:04 PM PDT by Brilliant
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"States have the right to secede under our original Articles of Confederation"

This idiot needs to read up on history-the secession issue was decided in a war, as was the ownership of the American southwest.


5 posted on 05/04/2005 4:52:22 PM PDT by Spok
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States have the right to secede ...

While, in principle, I'd have to agree with him, I would also remind him that this has been tried before and it didn't work out particularly well the last time.

6 posted on 05/04/2005 4:52:48 PM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: CHARLITE

The professor is an idiot. The Articles of Confederation were defunct with the institution of the Constitution of the United States of America. Only Texas has any sort of claim to a right to secede.


7 posted on 05/04/2005 4:53:58 PM PDT by thoughtomator (Hard to change your ID when it's "admin")
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To: Travis McGee; Ernest_at_the_Beach; CHARLITE

Travis is going to love this. He's already writing about it.


8 posted on 05/04/2005 4:55:04 PM PDT by onyx (Pope John Paul II - May 18, 1920 - April 2, 2005 = SANTO SUBITO!)
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A June 2002 Zogby poll found that the majority of Mexican citizens agree with him and hold the view that, since the Southwest U.S. really belongs to Mexico, they do not need permission to enter.

Just for the sake of discussion, let's agree with this.

The question, then, is "At what point (geographic line) do the Free Range Latinos depart the portion of the Southwest U.S. that really belongs to Mexico and enter the part of the U.S. that does not really belong to Mexico?".

9 posted on 05/04/2005 4:56:36 PM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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Mexicans should admit the fact that California, New Mexico, and Arizona belongs to United States. The expansionism and imperialism of Mexico must be avoided in any way, including an invasion and influence of state level government by the large population of Mexicans in these states.


11 posted on 05/04/2005 4:59:31 PM PDT by Wiz
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So now the illegals aren't happy with invading our country
but now they want to get California back and Texas back etc etc etc.

Today I heard something that really disturbed me. The US Treasurer is hispanic and she said that our President, who is obsessed with social security AND Mexicans, said that he will give more social security benefits to mexicans that are poor if they support his program.

A BAD situation getting STRANGER!!


16 posted on 05/04/2005 5:05:41 PM PDT by stopem
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To: CHARLITE

So the Southwest can become a cesspool just like Old Mexico.


17 posted on 05/04/2005 5:06:05 PM PDT by Chi-townChief
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trujillo's an extremist.

i doubt that anything he says will happen because demographers forecast terrific growth in the american west, southwest and south. this includes the continued migration of u.s. northerners and easterners.

mexico cannot run their own country, so, who'd want to live in a mexico-like state? no one, including mexicans.


21 posted on 05/04/2005 5:09:26 PM PDT by ken21 (if you didn't see it on tv, then it didn't happen. /s)
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I'd love to see them try to re-take the Alamo or Alamogordo for that matter. Real short fight. Mexico City would be a burning cinder within twenty minutes.


22 posted on 05/04/2005 5:10:02 PM PDT by Liberty Valance (If you must filibuster, let the Constitution do the talkin')
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Hey Nativo, there's probably a bunch of INdians that don't accept the Mexican theft of their land back in the days of yore. Are you going to give the land back to them?


23 posted on 05/04/2005 5:10:58 PM PDT by Lizavetta
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The fact is that many Hispanic activists, Mexican citizens and perhaps even members of the Mexican government refuse to accept the legality of our 1845 annexation of Texas, the 1848 Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo after the Mexican-American War, or the 1852 Gadsden Purchase.

I guess they are not aware of the prophecy of Magin Catala, the mystic monk of the Santa Clara (Calif.) mission? He said that God was going to take this land away from the old Mexican "Calfornios" because of their sins, and give it to a new nation, a flag from the east.

Hmmm....What sins might those be? Perhaps it was due to the fact that Mexico -- whose war of independence against Spain began with a prophetic proclamation from a Catholic priest (!) - seized all the Church mission lands up here and distributed them to wealthy private hacienadados. God gave them freedom, they responded by stealing Church land...was the 1848 war a divine judgement?

At any rate, Magin Catala's prophecy came true: God took the land from Mexico and gave it to us. The Palest-Aztlanistas need to come to grips with the fact that this land is not theirs.

26 posted on 05/04/2005 5:12:51 PM PDT by Rytwyng (Men should only occupy themselves with hunting and war -- Genghis Khan)
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BFL


28 posted on 05/04/2005 5:15:08 PM PDT by Mears (Keep the government out of my face!)
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He predicts a new, sovereign Hispanic nation within this century encompassing much of the American southwest and part of northern Mexico.

What's wrong with just fixing Mexico? It would seem like an easier task for Hispanics to fix an existing Hispanic country than to try to wrest a new country from parts of the strongest country in the world.

-PJ

30 posted on 05/04/2005 5:18:26 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (It's still not safe to vote Democrat.)
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...refuse to accept the legality of our 1845 annexation of Texas, the 1848 Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo after the Mexican-American War, or the 1852 Gadsden Purchase....

Anybody ask these mushy thinkers just what it would have taken to accept these facts? Or is it they just like our side of the border better then their own and instead of fixing their side, lay claim to whats going right. I live here and don't plan on giving up my sovereignty or my American citizenship any time soon.


31 posted on 05/04/2005 5:20:13 PM PDT by pacpam (action=consequence applies in all cases)
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Celebrate September 14th. It's "Occupation Day" when Americans occupied Mexico City in 1847. That includes the National Palace and other "Halls of Montezuma." Oh yeah, also Matamoros, Monterrey, Juarez, Tampico, Vera Cruz, Puebla, Mazatlán, and various other places where any American cared to sit down.

Mexican bacteria killed more Americans than did Mexican arms.

The Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo granted to the U.S. Texas, California, Nevada, Utah, New Mexico, Arizona, Colorado, and Wyoming. The rest of Mexico was not attractive to Americans.


35 posted on 05/04/2005 5:29:27 PM PDT by concentric circles
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Why would any intelligent immigrant living in California want it to become part of Mexico? They left Mexico because California is a million times better. Mexico is a dump because it's political history has been either turbulent or squalid. As long as we're exporting democracy, let's export it to Mexico.


38 posted on 05/04/2005 5:33:14 PM PDT by popdonnelly
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