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Military Judge Rejects England's Plea Deal
FoxNews.com ^ | May 4, 2005 | AP

Posted on 05/04/2005 11:33:02 AM PDT by cweese

FORT HOOD, Texas — A military judge on Wednesday rejected Pfc. Lynndie England's guilty plea agreement in the Abu Ghraib prison scandal after another prisoner's testimony cast doubt on the prosecution's case. Earlier in the day, Pvt. Charles Graner Jr., the reputed ringleader in the scandal, contradicted a key part of England's guilty plea, in which she said she knew she was committing wrongful acts when she took part in the mistreatment of Iraqi detainees. Graner said that the notorious photos taken of England at the prison had a legitimate use, endangering England's guilty plea to seven abuse charges. Under military law, a judge can formally accept England's guilty plea only if she knew at the time that what she was doing was illegal. The judge, Col. James Pohl, planned to question England again Wednesday afternoon to try to clarify her state of mind when the abusive acts occurred. Graner, who is said to be England's ex-boyfriend, was found guilty in January and is serving a 10-year prison term for his role in the scandal. Pohl abruptly stopped England's sentencing hearing after Graner testified for the defense that three pictures he took of England holding a naked prisoner on a leash were meant to be used as a legitimate training aid for other guards.

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Government; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: courtmartial; england; foxnews; leashchick; lynndie; plea; sheshamedamerica
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1 posted on 05/04/2005 11:33:02 AM PDT by cweese
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To: cweese

Give her a medal......forget the court martial.


2 posted on 05/04/2005 11:34:36 AM PDT by Pondman88
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To: cweese
Graner testified for the defense that three pictures he took of England holding a naked prisoner on a leash were meant to be used as a legitimate training aid for other guards.

That's the ticket.

"The pictures were essential for my 'What Not To Do' PowerPoint presentation!"

3 posted on 05/04/2005 11:34:59 AM PDT by wideawake (God bless our brave soldiers and their Commander in Chief)
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To: cweese

Graner said that the notorious photos taken of England at the prison had a legitimate use

can anyone explain this?


4 posted on 05/04/2005 11:35:14 AM PDT by PeterPrinciple
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To: Pondman88

Well, if this stands I'm sure the MSM will be howling from now 'till Gabriel blows his horn!


5 posted on 05/04/2005 11:35:46 AM PDT by cweese (Hook 'em Horns!!!)
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To: cweese
Must be love...

6 posted on 05/04/2005 11:37:27 AM PDT by evets (God bless President Bush and VP Cheney)
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To: cweese

Someone said she was facing 11 years in prison. Let her leave the Army and call it a day.


7 posted on 05/04/2005 11:39:55 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: cweese

Good. Maybe there will be justice for this poor creature after all. She was following orders to "humiliate" the prisoners -- not torture them. Since the Geneva Convention does not apply to nonuniformed terrorists, what the hell is her crime?

It's pretty sorry that they are burning a couple of low ranking enlisteds for all of this.


8 posted on 05/04/2005 11:40:46 AM PDT by Elpasser
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

Sounds good to me.


9 posted on 05/04/2005 11:40:48 AM PDT by cweese (Hook 'em Horns!!!)
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To: cweese

Medals, not Jail, for Lynndie!


10 posted on 05/04/2005 11:42:30 AM PDT by bluebeak
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Instead of her getting her negotiated deal, the boyfriend may end up getting her some serious time.


11 posted on 05/04/2005 11:43:50 AM PDT by PAR35
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To: Elpasser

You said it.

I'm still wondering what kind of excuse it is for the top brass to go around basically admitting that discipline in their prisons had totally broken down, and guards were doing whatever the hell they wanted.

"Hey, don't blame me, I'm just the commanding officer!"


12 posted on 05/04/2005 11:45:50 AM PDT by keepingtrack
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To: bluebeak

Medals? You must be kidding. Dishonorable discharge, yes. Prison time, maybe. But medals? What's going on in your head, I wonder.


13 posted on 05/04/2005 11:46:25 AM PDT by Rembrandt_fan
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Graner, who is said to be England's ex-boyfriend, was found guilty in January and is serving a 10-year prison term

Ewwww, that'll get you at least 5 years!

14 posted on 05/04/2005 11:46:33 AM PDT by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it.)
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To: cweese

Do the Lynndie!

http://badgas.co.uk/lynndie/


15 posted on 05/04/2005 11:47:35 AM PDT by el_chupacabra (I'm glad you were born.)
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To: cweese
Seems odd to me that whereas "Lynndie England" has become a household name, I can't seem to recall the names of any of the others involved in this "scandal".
16 posted on 05/04/2005 11:47:50 AM PDT by keats5
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To: bluebeak

Are you guys serious about this? or you are kidding? I think this woman and the others gave our "Military" a black eye. God knows if it costs us soldier's lives.


17 posted on 05/04/2005 11:48:35 AM PDT by ElPatriota (let's not forget, we are all still friends despite our differences)
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To: bluebeak

Her dumb,careless actions ultimately aided the insurgency and indirectly led to the deaths of more US soldiers.
For this she should pay.


18 posted on 05/04/2005 11:48:43 AM PDT by nbenyo
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To: bluebeak

"Medals,not jail,for Lynddie"
Yeah,right,lets give creedence to all the Ugly American Imperialist propaganda nonsense coming out of the Islamic world.Real great PR for the War on Terror.


19 posted on 05/04/2005 11:49:08 AM PDT by Riverman94610
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To: keepingtrack
"Hey, don't blame me, I'm just the commanding officer!"

One of the best units I was in the Company Commander would hand the company off to the First Sergeant and Platoon Sergeants and tell his LTs to stay out of the way. We would hardly ever see the officers after morning PT.

The battalion commander asked him once what was going on and the CO said, "I don't know and don't wanna know."

The Lt. Colonel chuckled and said, "Good, Man."
20 posted on 05/04/2005 11:51:35 AM PDT by speed_addiction (I like to watch the children running and squealing. You see, they don't know I am using blanks!)
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