Posted on 05/03/2005 9:46:09 PM PDT by red_fish0r
Edited on 05/04/2005 12:13:48 AM PDT by Sidebar Moderator. [history]
Thursday, 6 February, 2003, 20:46 GMT
The president of the convention on the future of Europe, Valery Giscard d'Estaing, unveiled the constitution's first 15 draft articles on Thursday.
CONVENTION REPRESENTATIVES
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National governments and parliaments
European Commission
European parliament
13 candidate countries
Non-governmental organisations and academia
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But none of the chapters mentions any deity, or any explicitly religious or Christian values supposed to underpin the European project.
Some countries - particularly Poland, a future EU member - had argued for such a mention.
The Vatican and smaller denominations, including Jewish, Muslim and Protestant organisations, have also advocated its inclusion.
But others - including France, a strictly secular state - have strongly opposed it.
Last month the European Convention - which brings together 105 representatives of the 15 EU governments, legislatures and institutions - held a stormy debate on how the charter should deal with religion.
Feathers ruffled
Correspondents say the issue could still re-surface in a preamble to the document, which is expected to be completed by the summer.
A lot of representatives are wondering whether the people who drew up this document have been going to a different convention
Peter Hain
UK representative |
It distinguishes between areas of the "exclusive competency" of the EU - such as customs union, monetary policy and conservation of marine resources - and "shared competency" - the internal market, agriculture and fisheries and the environment.
But the BBC's Chris Morris says that while Mr Giscard D'Estaing has sought to boost democracy and to simplify the workings of the EU, he has ruffled more than a few feathers along the way.
One UK representative at the convention, Welsh Secretary Peter Hain, said the draft did not reflect a consensus of people on the convention.
"A lot of representatives are wondering whether the people who drew up this document have been going to a different convention," PA news agency quoted him as saying.
No God in the EU = No EU in the Future.
No EU in the Future.
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Well, whichever of the MULTITUDE of reasons that the EU has a weak and shaky future at best, this is but one. Add socialism, driven by megalomanics like Chirac and Schroeder, countries that want their own way of life and economy, and, and, and....
My bet says it will crumble, or degenerate to something that is a non-event.
Nam Vet
I reckon you will win your bet.
Hmm. Don't seem to see God in the U.S. Constitution either.
Religion doesn't get mentioned at all until the First Amendment.
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