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God missing from EU constitution
BBC News ^ | February 6, 2003

Posted on 05/03/2005 9:46:09 PM PDT by red_fish0r

Edited on 05/04/2005 12:13:48 AM PDT by Sidebar Moderator. [history]

Thursday, 6 February, 2003, 20:46 GMT

God missing from EU constitution
Valery Giscard D'Estaing
Giscard unveiled the new draft
Officials in Brussels have omitted the word God from the European Union's future constitution.

The president of the convention on the future of Europe, Valery Giscard d'Estaing, unveiled the constitution's first 15 draft articles on Thursday.

CONVENTION REPRESENTATIVES
National governments and parliaments
European Commission
European parliament
13 candidate countries
Non-governmental organisations and academia
Among them are statements of respect for member countries' national identity and for human rights, as well as commitments to social justice and the environment.

But none of the chapters mentions any deity, or any explicitly religious or Christian values supposed to underpin the European project.

Some countries - particularly Poland, a future EU member - had argued for such a mention.

The Vatican and smaller denominations, including Jewish, Muslim and Protestant organisations, have also advocated its inclusion.

But others - including France, a strictly secular state - have strongly opposed it.

Last month the European Convention - which brings together 105 representatives of the 15 EU governments, legislatures and institutions - held a stormy debate on how the charter should deal with religion.

Feathers ruffled

Correspondents say the issue could still re-surface in a preamble to the document, which is expected to be completed by the summer.

A lot of representatives are wondering whether the people who drew up this document have been going to a different convention

Peter Hain
UK representative
The draft states that among its main objectives are peace, "the well-being of peoples", competitiveness and the "discovery of space".

It distinguishes between areas of the "exclusive competency" of the EU - such as customs union, monetary policy and conservation of marine resources - and "shared competency" - the internal market, agriculture and fisheries and the environment.

But the BBC's Chris Morris says that while Mr Giscard D'Estaing has sought to boost democracy and to simplify the workings of the EU, he has ruffled more than a few feathers along the way.

One UK representative at the convention, Welsh Secretary Peter Hain, said the draft did not reflect a consensus of people on the convention.

"A lot of representatives are wondering whether the people who drew up this document have been going to a different convention," PA news agency quoted him as saying.



TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Foreign Affairs; Miscellaneous; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: constitution; destaing; eu; religion

1 posted on 05/03/2005 9:46:09 PM PDT by red_fish0r
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To: red_fish0r

No God in the EU = No EU in the Future.


2 posted on 05/03/2005 9:47:08 PM PDT by Red Sea Swimmer (Tisha5765Bav)
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To: Red Sea Swimmer

No EU in the Future.
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Well, whichever of the MULTITUDE of reasons that the EU has a weak and shaky future at best, this is but one. Add socialism, driven by megalomanics like Chirac and Schroeder, countries that want their own way of life and economy, and, and, and....

My bet says it will crumble, or degenerate to something that is a non-event.


3 posted on 05/03/2005 9:49:18 PM PDT by EagleUSA
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To: red_fish0r
I have nothing but distain for the EU.

Nam Vet

4 posted on 05/03/2005 9:50:15 PM PDT by Nam Vet (MSM reporters think the MOIST dream they had the night before is a "reliable source".)
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To: EagleUSA

I reckon you will win your bet.


5 posted on 05/03/2005 9:54:26 PM PDT by Red Sea Swimmer (Tisha5765Bav)
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To: red_fish0r

Hmm. Don't seem to see God in the U.S. Constitution either.

Religion doesn't get mentioned at all until the First Amendment.


6 posted on 05/03/2005 9:55:50 PM PDT by Larry Lucido
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To: red_fish0r

Please use the original title. This prevents duplication.

Also please do not include personal comments in the section where you are posting the original story.

If you would like to comment on the story, please do so in the box below the section where you post the story.

Thanks.


7 posted on 05/04/2005 12:36:56 AM PDT by Sidebar Moderator
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To: Larry Lucido
Article VII

Done in Convention by the Unanimous Consent of the States present the Seventeenth Day of September in the Year of our Lord one thousand seven hundred and Eighty seven and of the Independence of the United States of America the Twelfth. In Witness whereof We have hereunto subscribed our Names.

click here to view the U.S. Constitution

8 posted on 05/04/2005 1:21:50 AM PDT by Boston Blackie
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To: Larry Lucido
Read the PREAMBLE to the BILL of RIGHTS.
9 posted on 05/04/2005 5:12:45 AM PDT by vannrox (The Preamble to the Bill of Rights - without it, our Bill of Rights is meaningless!)
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