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Defense: England Oxygen-Deprived At Birth
Associated Press/ABCnews,com ^ | May 3, 2005 | T.A. Badger

Posted on 05/03/2005 4:59:56 PM PDT by Thrusher

England's Sentencing Hearing Begins; Defense Seeks Leniency, Says England Oxygen-Deprived at Birth

FORT HOOD, Texas May 3, 2005 — Defense lawyers sought leniency for Pfc. Lynndie England at a hearing Tuesday to determine her punishment in the Abu Ghraib prison abuse scandal, with a psychologist testifying that the reservist was oxygen-deprived at birth, speech impaired and had trouble learning to read.

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TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: abughraib; england; lynndie; lynndieengland; oxygendeprived
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To: burzum
Why did she join the Army if she wasn't physically and psychologically fit to stand duty?

Better question is why did the Army sign her up?

21 posted on 05/03/2005 5:25:24 PM PDT by PistolPaknMama (Will work for cool tag line.)
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To: burzum

Take a good hard look at #11's pic. No, not the cat. Check out her eyes. Look, when you are an adult, you are supposed to act like an adult. When you are in the military, you are supposed to represent the USA, and yourself, impeccably. I think she might have a congenital problem, or maybe it is the lack of oxygen at birth.

It is well known that our soldiers and defenders of America, come from the ranks of the poor. How much time did JFK jr spend in the military? Have Barbara and Jenna signed up for a tour? I'm not dissing them, but it points out the difference. Everyone can joke about trailer trash, but I think I'd rather have Lynndie cover my ass, than Paris Hilton.


22 posted on 05/03/2005 5:28:32 PM PDT by TheSpottedOwl (Free Mexico!)
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To: G32

She's stricken with DBLS (Danny Bonaduce Lookalike Syndrome).


23 posted on 05/03/2005 5:31:05 PM PDT by Lizavetta
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To: burzum
And she hurt the Army more than any terrorist ever could.

Right. Let's see, we've been in how many wars? We've never tortured or humiliated prisoners before this joke at Abu Graihb? Get real, the only reason why this hurt the Army was because some asshole sold the pics to the media. They hate anything American. No, I don't condone leashes and panties for terrorists. I'm not that nice.

24 posted on 05/03/2005 5:33:11 PM PDT by TheSpottedOwl (Free Mexico!)
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To: PistolPaknMama
Better question is why did the Army sign her up?

I believe in the concept of personal responsibility. Every person is responsible for their actions, intentional or not. The media and liberals are constantly trying to push the point that something is not our fault because we were not capable. It's not my fault that I didn't think about retirement, the government should pay for it. Its not my fault that I was speeding, I thought the speed limit was lower. It's not my fault that I killed 2 children in another car, I was drinking. It's not my fault I'm a criminal, I was born poor.

All of its BS. I've seen people do great deeds with little resources and I've seen people fail trivial deeds with all the help they could ever want. The only difference is that one person says: "It's my responsibility to see that this task is accomplished."

Being oxygen depraved and having difficulty reading is a disability. This does not mean that it is an excuse. She took her ASVAB, she talked to the recruiters, answered questions similar to "are there any conditions mental or otherwise that prevent you from doing your job?", and always had the ability to talk to an Army psychologist stating that she had problems performing her duties. She was trained on the laws of the military and on the code of conduct of a soldier. How far does the military have to bend over to help her do her job correctly?

25 posted on 05/03/2005 5:39:06 PM PDT by burzum
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To: CT CONSERVATIVE

"Ive asked them to pull my thread above.."

Just don't ask a prisoner to pull your finger...


26 posted on 05/03/2005 5:44:23 PM PDT by RS ("I took the drugs because I liked them and I found excuses to take them, so I'm not weaseling. ")
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To: TheSpottedOwl
Right. Let's see, we've been in how many wars? We've never tortured or humiliated prisoners before this joke at Abu Graihb? Get real, the only reason why this hurt the Army was because some asshole sold the pics to the media. They hate anything American. No, I don't condone leashes and panties for terrorists. I'm not that nice.

So you don't support the concept of justice? You don't think we as Americans are above the vermin we call terrorists? I would like to think we are and that the concept of national honor is more than just words. Perhaps my head is too far up in the clouds, but I believe that the freedoms and concepts that our country has fought for for hundreds of years are more important than simple revenge.

27 posted on 05/03/2005 5:50:49 PM PDT by burzum
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To: burzum

I certainly do support the concept of justice. The problem is that I support the old time definition of justice. This PC crap has gone on long enough. What would Patton do? Ask yourself that. This isn't revenge, it is a mediocre spanking, and the terrorists will take it back to their camps. We're weak compared to them. They execute people, and play soccer with their heads! I wish those leashes were rubber hoses. Maybe then those guys would get the message.


28 posted on 05/03/2005 6:09:15 PM PDT by TheSpottedOwl (Free Mexico!)
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To: Thrusher

tooo funny, everybody's doin the Lyndee... http://badgas.co.uk/lynndie/


29 posted on 05/03/2005 7:36:12 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist ©®)
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To: Thrusher

Army Pfc. Lynndie England, center, and members of her defense team Kathleen Johnson, left, and Kristine Didonato, right, leave the judicial center after day two of England's court martial at Ft. Hood, Texas Tuesday, May, 3, 2005. (AP Photo/Paul Buck, Pool)

Her defense team appears to be taking cues from the big-spiky-I-am-woman-boots trend in D.C.

30 posted on 05/03/2005 9:30:43 PM PDT by lainie
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To: Thrusher

Stevie Wonder was oxygen deprived at birth but he still got MLK a national holiday.


31 posted on 05/03/2005 9:35:13 PM PDT by Yaelle
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To: lainie

Wow, those are some professional looking lawyers. Joe Pesci was held in contempt of court in Herman Muster's court for wearing a better suit than either of those ladies.

Just watching out for the yoots of America.


32 posted on 05/04/2005 12:43:30 AM PDT by hattend (Alaska....in a time warp all it's own!)
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To: hattend; Lijahsbubbe; aculeus; BlueLancer; dighton
Wow, those are some professional looking lawyers. Joe Pesci was held in contempt of court in Herman Muster's court for wearing a better suit than either of those ladies.

My first impression of the photo was that it looked like a bizarre feminist remake of My Cousin Vinny. The one with the gold spray paint outfit looks like she uses a crystal ball and has a 900 number on her business card. Maybe it's just me.

33 posted on 05/04/2005 12:59:33 AM PDT by Thinkin' Gal
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To: Thinkin' Gal

It's not just you...LOL


34 posted on 05/04/2005 6:16:41 AM PDT by hattend (Alaska....in a time warp all it's own!)
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To: Thinkin' Gal; hattend; Lijahsbubbe; BlueLancer; dighton
My first impression of the photo was that ...

... it was taken by Time's "Ann Coulter" photographer.

35 posted on 05/04/2005 6:18:10 AM PDT by aculeus (Ceci n'est pas une tag line.)
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To: Thrusher
Defense lawyers sought leniency for Pfc. Lynndie England at a hearing Tuesday to determine her punishment in the Abu Ghraib prison abuse scandal, with a psychologist testifying that the reservist was oxygen-deprived at birth, speech impaired and had trouble learning to read.

So an idiot did an idiotic thing. How does that make her not guilty?

36 posted on 05/04/2005 6:20:08 AM PDT by Zeroisanumber
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To: TheSpottedOwl
Right. Let's see, we've been in how many wars? We've never tortured or humiliated prisoners before this joke at Abu Graihb?

We did wrong in the past, so we should do wrong in the future. Got it.

Get real, the only reason why this hurt the Army was because some asshole sold the pics to the media.

No, the damage was done when those f'n idiots disgraced the uniform and their country with their half-assed Torquemada routine. The pictures just let the rest of us in on what sort of numbskullery they were up to.

They hate anything American.

So it was the media's fault? Not the morons who were cruel enough to do it in the first place, and then compound it with a world's championship piece of idiocy by photographing it?

37 posted on 05/04/2005 6:29:35 AM PDT by Zeroisanumber
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To: burzum
Why did she join the Army if she wasn't physically and psychologically fit to stand duty?

I think the question you want to ask is how did she get in the Army in the first place?
38 posted on 05/04/2005 6:38:56 AM PDT by af_vet_rr
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To: hattend; Thinkin' Gal

LOL! Maybe Kathleen Johnson always wanted to be a Solid Gold Dancer.


39 posted on 05/04/2005 9:19:48 AM PDT by lainie
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To: Thrusher

50,000 BTU's (Big Time Uglies).


40 posted on 05/04/2005 9:25:12 AM PDT by gesully (gesully)
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