After 10 years, brain-damaged Buffalo-area fireman makes astounding recovery (Schiavo Parallel?)

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[Recovering_Democrat]

ORCHARD PARK, N.Y. (AP) - Ten years after a firefighter was left brain-damaged and mostly mute during a 1995 roof collapse, he did something that shocked his family and doctors: He perked up.

"I want to talk to my wife," Donald Herbert said out of the blue Saturday. Staff members of the nursing home where he has lived for more than seven years raced to get Linda Herbert on the telephone.

It was the first of many conversations the 44-year-old patient had with his wife, four sons and other family and friends during a 14-hour stretch, said Herbert's uncle, Simon Manka.

"How long have I been away?" Herbert asked.

"We told him almost 10 years," the uncle said. "He thought it was only three months."

[ExPatInFrance]

Joy Ping!

[markedmannerf]

Glenn Beck mentioned this story yesterday. I love how the media Ignored how close this story was to Terri.

http://www.glennbeck.com/news/05042005.shtml

[msp2004]

Blessings indeed! thanks for the ping.
Msp

[presently no screen name]

Blessings to all Freepers who have come to know each other through the struggle to save the life of Terri Schiavo, a woman we came to know only through her family. We have not forgotten and we will never forget. It is useless to tell us to "get over it" "move on, she is dead.


Strange how some say move one, get over it, etc. - why do they say that to the Terri supporters and, yet, they are drawn to a thread related to Terri's misfortune? Cannot they get over it? I wonder if they can't fathom they believed the lie from the death culture that was enhanced by the talking heads. They may not want to be reminded they were seduced by evil to chant for death.

Those who follow God's word have spiritual discernment and can see the difference between good and evil. We CANNOT be fooled, we WILL NOT be fooled by the workings of satan - who kills, robs and destroys.

There is no turning back now for anyone - some cast their vote for goodness and mercy and condemned evil when they saw it being played out - in the midst of those that casts their vote for death. God knows everyones heart and he heard all our prayers, knows of our tears, knows the roller coaster ride we endured, sleepless nights, trying desperately to get the truth out amid the constant lies from media, God heard all the half truths, twisting of facts on message boards, saying what THEY want when it wasn't about them - selfishness, laughing at Schindler's support staff, poking fun at Terri, denying, through their words, a drop of water for a disabled person and condemned those who tried to bring her water.

Terri's battle is over and everything that was done is now set in stone. ExPatInFrance, thank you for the Joy ping. For most of us it is joy and not joyful for others as we ALL will reap what we sow, more than we sow, later than we sow.

In Terri Schindler's words, "where there is life, there is hope".

[Arthur Wildfire! March]

Added this to my mountain of Terri bookmarks. FRegards....

[Juiceyguy]

It still amazes me how gullible/ignorant people are. The fireman was in a comma, he had a whole brain with measurable activity. Schiavo's brain was almost completely disintegrated with no measurable activity. They are very different cases.

Do some research other than webpage postings from people with motives. Try this for one http://abstractappeal.com/schiavo/infopage.html

[LYSandra]

I only hope there is payback for MS & his swarmy little lawyer & that creey judge Greer. I'd hate to think he just gets to resume his life after murdering his wife and there is no payback for his actions. Tell me he'll get his....

[LYSandra]

I only hope there is payback for MS & his swarmy little lawyer & that creey judge Greer. I'd hate to think he just gets to resume his life after murdering his wife and there is no payback for his actions. Tell me he'll get his....

[LYSandra]

I only hope there is payback for MS & his swarmy little lawyer & that creey judge Greer. I'd hate to think he just gets to resume his life after murdering his wife and there is no payback for his actions. Tell me he'll get his....

[LYSandra]

I only hope there is payback for MS & his swarmy little lawyer & that creey judge Greer. I'd hate to think he just gets to resume his life after murdering his wife and there is no payback for his actions. Tell me he'll get his....

[Future Useless Eater]

you signed up with a duplicate account TODAY just to continue pushing that one-sided Greer 'facts' page?

I'd say welcome to FR, but I know you are breaking the rules here with a duplicate signin.


How many Terri-threads are you planning to spam with that anti-Terri Greer material? In your first day here, you are up to 3 and counting.

I also see your VERY first post was anti-christian, and your 2nd slammed what you call the 'radical right'


Jim, I nominate this retread signup for zot

[nutmeg]

ping!

[Arthur Wildfire! March]

"Schiavo's brain was almost completely disintegrated with no measurable activity."

I don't care what the machines say. If you hear someone talk, to heck with the machines.

[Red Sea Swimmer]

Great story.

Where there is life there is hope.

[Future Useless Eater]

POINT OF CORRECTION: I know several Terri-supporters have said they thought they read that Terri was getting rehab help learning to walk using parallel bars, but I am not finding anything like that in the records.

If anyone finds proof this was true, please enlighten us all here or on the 'daily' thread..

The point is not that Terri was getting all the SAME therapy as the firefighter, Donald Herbert, but merely that they were BOTH somewhat responsive, and both BETTER than PVS... ("Minimally Conscious" it is called).

There DOES seems to be a decent outline of what her rehab was accomplishing in 1990 and 1991, (Note the bottom half of this article at the TEJ). It involved range of motion exercises, and just getting Terri to RESPOND to anything, smells, sounds, voices, photos, and things like opening her eyes or lifting her legs or arms on command.

These records showed Terri was slowly but clearly getting better, but then Michael cut her rehab to once a week, and then as soon as he got her rehabilitation money, he cut off ALL rehab treatments.

It was in one of these rehab-facilities, Mediplex, where her doctor wrote in her charts, she occasionally says "STOP" during procedures.

[Future Useless Eater]

>>If you hear someone talk, to heck with the machines.

Quite right, Terri and Donald Herbert shared some of the same limited vocabulary.

[bvw]

Not a doctor

That is an absolutely irresponsible statement.

[bvw]

And it would be true, indeed.

[bvw]

We are only allowed to believe what the Judges tell us to believe. Yes, sir! By your word, sir! Very good!

How may I starve your wife today, sir?

[T'wit]

>> Schiavo's brain was almost completely disintegrated with no measurable activity.

I've heard this often enough to wonder what's the source. Can you please give me the citation? Nobody has found it yet. When I ask people for it, they clam up.