save us all the trouble
Posted on 05/03/2005 10:37:57 AM PDT by Recovering_Democrat
ORCHARD PARK, N.Y. (AP) - Ten years after a firefighter was left brain-damaged and mostly mute during a 1995 roof collapse, he did something that shocked his family and doctors: He perked up.
"I want to talk to my wife," Donald Herbert said out of the blue Saturday. Staff members of the nursing home where he has lived for more than seven years raced to get Linda Herbert on the telephone.
It was the first of many conversations the 44-year-old patient had with his wife, four sons and other family and friends during a 14-hour stretch, said Herbert's uncle, Simon Manka.
"How long have I been away?" Herbert asked.
"We told him almost 10 years," the uncle said. "He thought it was only three months."
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That's just ignorant.
>>>>>>...a miracle of God. I know that He could have done the same thing for Terri
>>>>He didn't. I guess he hated Terri.
>>*snort* ;~D
I am hardly a gen-xer, but thank you.
You won't think it's any funnier even after I explain it to you, so lets save us all the trouble, eh?
save us all the trouble
Excellent point!
I have cared for PVS and coma patients and NONE of them could respond the way Terri did even once.
I just listened to a press conference regarding the fire fighter. The fire fighter (Mr. Herbert) was approximately 10 minutes without oxygen. Two and a half years ago Mr. Herbert's wife took her husband to a doctor at the Erie County Medical Facility.
The doctor said at that time he first examined Mr. Herbert, Mr. Herbert was in a persistent vegetative state and had been in that condition for approximately five years. He said that Mr. Berbert was drooling and unresponsive. Recently the doctor started treating Mr. Herbert with medications commonly used for ADHD, Parkinson's' disease and antidepressants.
His nurse at the nursing home said that not only is Mr. Herbert recognizing his family, but is recognizing his nursing staff -- long and short term memory recollection. He is very tired and is not always as responsive as he was the other day. His doctor said that this is expected.
The doctor is very optimistic about the outcome and thanks God and the availability of medication for Mr. Herbert's recovery.
Nothing.
Thank you for that info.
Re: Terri and parallel bars:
www.freerepublic.com/~niks/in-forum
See first thread, in particular.
Too bad the same won't happen for Terri Schiavo since they just HAD to murder her. Courtesy of Greer,Felos,&Pigboy.
These Terribots as they have been labeled will have you believe Terri was the picture of perfect health.
No they claim she was walking too.
Just from reading this article I'd say there is no parallel whatsoever.
THe only simalarity I can see is that they both suffered from brain damage.
Governor Bush Is Just Following Orders
James Atticus Bowden
Governor Jeb Bush, R-Florida, was pained to say he had done all he could do legally. Bush said he wouldn’t ‘break the law’ to save Terry Schiavo. Bush wouldn’t, couldn’t, shouldn’t because he is just obeying orders. The Governor of Florida follows orders from a Pinellas County Circuit judge. In matters of life and death. In issues of cruel and unusual punishment. When due process is denied.
The Constitution of Florida says The People are sovereign –like kings. The People of Florida vest the supreme executive authority in a governor in their constitution. Unless, apparently, a judge orders otherwise. In fact a Circuit Judge, whose limited jurisdiction is listed in the Florida constitution can order every administrative and police official across the state of Florida to ‘freeze, boy. Do as I order, hear?’ So, when a child takes water to a starving, dehydrated disabled woman, the kid is arrested by deputies. They’re just following orders.
Good Germans followed judges and other officials in obeying the law of the land 60 years ago. Good Americans today, it appears, also obey the law of the land. The law of the land is whatever a black robed priest-king, called judge, says it is. Ask Gov. Bush where in the Florida Code a Circuit judge can deny a woman food and water unto death. Yet, clearly, it’s a violation of Chapter 825 of the Florida Criminal Code to abuse and neglect a disabled person, Terry Schiavo, by starvation.
The Florida Constitution states The People have the God-given right to life for all individuals – regardless of disability. Unless an elected lawyer in costume, a judge, says the law of the land is to kill a brain-damaged woman slowly. The abuse of a disabled person by failing to provide nutrition is a felony in Florida. Unless, of course, a judge says ‘follow my orders’ and won’t permit her family to take a picture of her suffering.
Lawful Germans just followed the orders of Nazi Human Secularists. Loyal Russian, Chinese, North Korean, Eastern European, Cambodian, and Vietnamese carried out the orders of Communist Human Secularists. Americans serve Liberal Human Secularism if a judge orders. If a judge ordered a black man lynched, it would be the law of the land.
Why not? Gov. Bush would be so sorry, really, but couldn’t do anything if a judge gave an order. But, a judge would never do such a thing, right? The difference between lynching and abortion is proportion and status. One black man dies or 40 million babies die (so far) on the word and writ of robed masters. No one in the executive or legislature used their constitutional powers. Everyone just followed orders.
Abortion was a state medical-legal issue, but five judges out of nine on the U.S. Supreme Court made up a right to privacy. It’s written in the U.S. Constitution like the requirement to starve Terry Schiavo to death is in the Florida Constitution and Code. Look and see.
March 28th, 2005 we will see if the U.S. Congress which ordered a subpoena for Terry Schiavo and a new Federal judicial review of her case will follow the orders of Pinellas County Circuit judge. George Greer dismissed the subpoena, backed by the U.S. Code – it’s the law, with a wave of his hand. Just as he denied Terry Schiavo her freedom of religion to receive communion, until her adulterous husband – and Greer’s campaign contributor - relented for Easter. The Federal judges ignored the law the U.S. Congress passed and the President of the U.S. signed for new look at the case. They rule.
The elected Federal Legislature and Executive is having their bluff called. Attorney General Janet Reno sent in armed men against a Florida court order to take Elian Gonzales from his dead mother’s wishes and loving family to return the child to communist slavery in Cuba. Perhaps, Republicans in power just posture.
Reasonable people and unreasonable people, sometimes known as lawyers, disagree on Gov. Bush using his executive power. They fear a Constitutional crisis. Too late. Judge Greer started the crisis, this Dred Scot, with his judicial tyranny. The judge would hold the Governor in contempt. It would take an Andrew Jackson or Abraham Lincoln to be so bold. But, Jeb Bush, nice guy that he is, well-meaning man, and good Catholic, is no ‘Old Hickory’ and no “Honest Abe’. Jeb, like every defendant at Nuremburg save one, pleads ‘not guilty’ because he is just following orders.
James Atticus Bowden
James Atticus Bowden has specialized in inter-disciplinary long range 'futures' studies for over a decade. He is employed by a Defense Department contractor. He is a retired United States Army Infantry Officer. He is a 1972 graduate of the United States Military Academy and earned graduate degrees from Harvard University and Columbia University. He holds three elected Republican Party offices in Virginia.
With all these people waking up and talking a little bit, I am getting really disturbed that Greer isn't in jail and that Jeb didn't do his duty and rescue Terri. Election years of the future will be devastating to the GOP.
Good article.
We need more politicians with common sense, integrity and GUTS!!
Thank you very much. Interesting treatment. It might have helped Terri. Maybe it will help many others!
Thanks for the ping Useless.
Praise Be to God for that man and his family.
Joy to the World!
Blessings on the mother who stayed with her son every day.
Blessings to his wife who continued treatment options.
Blessings to the Doctor, who didn't impart the traditionally held medical ethics of on persons with sever disabilities for "putting them down."
Blessings to all Freepers who have come to know each other through the struggle to save the life of Terri Schiavo, a woman we came to know only through her family. We have not forgotten and we will never forget. It is useless to tell us to "get over it" "move on, she is dead"
We will resume our day to day activites, however we will never forget and a large army of anti Euthanasia soldiers is reeady to step up for anyone we see in a similar situation. Blessings of Terri's Freepers, all of us.
It is good to experience some JOY for persons with disablities and their families. This remarkable story is Joyous!!!!!!!!! :) :) :)
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