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After 10 years, brain-damaged Buffalo-area fireman makes astounding recovery (Schiavo Parallel?)
CBC ^

Posted on 05/03/2005 10:37:57 AM PDT by Recovering_Democrat

ORCHARD PARK, N.Y. (AP) - Ten years after a firefighter was left brain-damaged and mostly mute during a 1995 roof collapse, he did something that shocked his family and doctors: He perked up.

"I want to talk to my wife," Donald Herbert said out of the blue Saturday. Staff members of the nursing home where he has lived for more than seven years raced to get Linda Herbert on the telephone.

It was the first of many conversations the 44-year-old patient had with his wife, four sons and other family and friends during a 14-hour stretch, said Herbert's uncle, Simon Manka.

"How long have I been away?" Herbert asked.

"We told him almost 10 years," the uncle said. "He thought it was only three months."

(Excerpt) Read more at cbc.ca ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Florida; US: New York
KEYWORDS: braindamage; coma; donaldherbert; getoveryourselves; notschaivo; rerun; schiavo
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To: Future Useless Eater; T'wit; Pepper777; Slyfox; Tarheel; floriduh voter; PhilDragoo; ...
You know Michael Schiavo is in the same league as.....


Jerry Hobbs faces two charges of first-degree murder in the deaths of his daughter and her best friend.

121 posted on 05/11/2005 8:26:25 AM PDT by restornu (“No president in American history understood the timber of the American character better than Reagan)
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To: Future Useless Eater

Your post 105: Thanks for that.

7 January 2004 "Dr. Hammesfahr Interviewed: Explains Terri's Real Condition"
http://www.hospicepatients.org/terri-schindler-schiavo-docs-links-page.html

fascinating: September 2002 William Hammesfahr report (Hammesfahr was 'nominated' for a Nobel by a congressman, not by a Nobel committee-- his 'nominated' claim is true but misleading)
http://groups.google.co.in/groups?selm=dford3-3aq5f3F6dhsi9U1%40individual.net


122 posted on 05/11/2005 8:26:50 AM PDT by david ford
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To: david ford; Future Useless Eater; T'wit; Pepper777; Slyfox; Tarheel; floriduh voter; PhilDragoo
fascinating: September 2002 William Hammesfahr report (Hammesfahr was 'nominated' for a Nobel by a congressman, not by a Nobel committee-- his 'nominated' claim is true but misleading)

That may be true it is misleading but he saw potential in Terri and had faith it would work I thought that what Godly folks were about keep on keeping on!

Global Ethics folks are about enabling weakness and under minding faith, courage, integrity, honor, Trump!

So they the Global Ethics can control, have dominion over the offspring of the children of God!

123 posted on 05/11/2005 8:40:44 AM PDT by restornu (“No president in American history understood the timber of the American character better than Reagan)
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To: david ford; All
Thank you for pointing out the collection of Terri documents at hospicepatients.org

I was surprised to read the affidavit of Alexander T. Gimon, PhD, clinical neuropsychologist, who summarized findings on Terri's responsiveness.

My OWN notable hilights from that are as follows... (The first TWO points were from recordings ON VIDEO! Others were recordings on audio).


124 posted on 05/11/2005 10:42:25 AM PDT by Future Useless Eater (formerly FL_Engineer) (It was wrong to kill her. No other "facts" matter.-JimRobinson)
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To: restornu
I've read the whole CBB file several times, including all the responses to date. Of course Dr. CBB refutes the statement that Juiceyguy and several others have made. Yet we keep hearing the same claim, over and over, like a litany. So, I ask for a source and they all fall silent.

Don't they realize that their honesty is on the line?

125 posted on 05/11/2005 12:38:05 PM PDT by T'wit (T'wit's Third Law: Liberals never admit the truth until they tell a lie about us -- for balance.)
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To: twigs
The state put her to death on unverified testimony.

The state pulled her feeding tube after 21 trials and hearings filled with nothing but testimony. Just because the testimony does not agree with the wacko stuff you read in the Schaivo threads does not make it untrue. Terri died a long time ago. Let her rest in peace.

126 posted on 05/11/2005 12:49:34 PM PDT by JoeGar
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To: Future Useless Eater

well done!


127 posted on 05/11/2005 2:04:15 PM PDT by Awestruck (Here we go again!!)
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To: JoeGar

>>>Terri died a long time ago. Let her rest in peace.

When exactly would YOU say she died... BEFORE or AFTER July 9 2002?

C 01 (Examination of Dr. Cranford on July 9, 2002) - After Terri's mother enters the room, Terri greets her by speaking the word "Hi", and makes good eye movement toward her.


128 posted on 05/11/2005 3:55:42 PM PDT by Future Useless Eater (formerly FL_Engineer) (It was wrong to kill her. No other "facts" matter.-JimRobinson)
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To: Future Useless Eater

Disgust and disbelief simmers deep within me about what supposed humans did to Terri.

I expect no less from leftists liberals, the republican tag line held above the actions done haunts the memory.


129 posted on 05/11/2005 4:50:57 PM PDT by Just mythoughts
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To: T'wit; Arthur Wildfire! March
"I don't care what the machines say. If you hear someone talk, to heck with the machines."

"May I ask if you found any documentation for your statement? Namely, "Schiavo's brain was almost completely disintegrated with no measurable activity." "



I don't think he can answer either of you...


http://www.freerepublic.com/~juiceyguy/
This account has been banned or suspended.

130 posted on 05/11/2005 5:52:01 PM PDT by Future Useless Eater (formerly FL_Engineer) (It was wrong to kill her. No other "facts" matter.-JimRobinson)
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To: restornu

"Terri was able to chew and swallow and was learning to use the pararall bars to walk again..."

I've read that several times here. Would you happen to have any kind of official documentation that Terri was learning to use pararall bars to walk?


131 posted on 05/11/2005 10:09:27 PM PDT by Sun ("We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good," Killary Clinton, pro-abort)
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To: Future Useless Eater; Pepper777; Slyfox; Tarheel; floriduh voter; PhilDragoo

Schiavo Autopsy Still Not Complete (MUST READ)

Autopsy results in the Terri Schindler-Schiavo case are still two to three weeks from completion according to Jon Thogmartin, medical examiner for District Six which comprises Pinellas and Pasco Counties in Florida.
http://www.theempirejournal.com/510051_schiavo_autopsy_still_not.htm


132 posted on 05/11/2005 10:37:03 PM PDT by restornu (“No president in American history understood the timber of the American character better than Reagan)
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To: Future Useless Eater; Pepper777; Slyfox; Tarheel; floriduh voter; PhilDragoo

Terri Schiavo Guinea Pig For Euthanasia Sect

http://www.theempirejournal.com/510052_terri_schiavo_guinea_pig.htm


133 posted on 05/11/2005 10:54:43 PM PDT by restornu (“No president in American history understood the timber of the American character better than Reagan)
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To: Future Useless Eater

http://www.freerepublic.com/~terri_schindler[schiavo]/

That account has also been suspended, but not by the FR. As for the documentation question, which I seem to have missed, it was a blooming tape all over the radio waves, with multiple people saying it was her voice. Therefore, the judges' lack of curiosity and concern for life simply damns them. 'No brainer' at this point. They may have well been in Lord of the Rings, the Stewart, trying to burn his son on a funeral pyre.


134 posted on 05/12/2005 2:56:23 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (<<<< Profile page streamlined, solely devoted Schiavo research)
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To: whoever

Ehhhh... "may AS well have been", not "may have well have been." Sorry.


135 posted on 05/12/2005 2:58:09 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (<<<< Profile page streamlined, solely devoted Schiavo research)
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To: Future Useless Eater
>> I don't think he can answer either of you...

He couldn't if he were here either.

136 posted on 05/12/2005 3:51:46 AM PDT by T'wit (T'wit's Third Law: Liberals never admit the truth until they tell a lie about us -- for balance.)
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To: JoeGar
>> Let her rest in peace.

We're working on that but Michael hid her ashes.

137 posted on 05/12/2005 5:43:01 AM PDT by T'wit (T'wit's Third Law: Liberals never admit the truth until they tell a lie about us -- for balance.)
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To: Future Useless Eater

"Thank you for pointing out the collection of Terri documents at hospicepatients.org"
About
http://www.hospicepatients.org/terri-schindler-schiavo-docs-links-page.html
I was fortunate to come across the site early on. The first item I read from there was

23 March 2005 William Cheshire affidavit: someone is there; Terri can anticipate and feel pain
http://groups.google.co.in/groups?selm=dford3-3ak2l1F6att0vU1%40individual.net

I've also straight-texted other PDFs on that website:

Draft 4 of chronology
http://groups.google.co.in/group/talk.origins/msg/f57c121a855d2d35?


138 posted on 05/12/2005 6:08:21 AM PDT by david ford
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To: restornu


In the future, people like Hobbs will first consult the 'experts' to find out how to do it 'legal'-like.

139 posted on 05/12/2005 1:33:21 PM PDT by Future Useless Eater (formerly FL_Engineer) (It was wrong to kill her. No other "facts" matter.-JimRobinson)
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To: Future Useless Eater
oops, peopleSCUM
140 posted on 05/12/2005 1:34:56 PM PDT by Future Useless Eater (formerly FL_Engineer) (It was wrong to kill her. No other "facts" matter.-JimRobinson)
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