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Judge Okays Abortion For Girl, 13
St. Petersburg Times ^ | 5/3/05 | Associated Press

Posted on 05/03/2005 7:33:22 AM PDT by areafiftyone

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To: massgopguy

Probably won't matter. The so-called father is probably just as irresponsible as she is and will welcome the abortion.


21 posted on 05/03/2005 7:49:49 AM PDT by areafiftyone (Politicians Are Like Diapers, Both Need To Be Changed Often And For The Same Reason!)
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To: Abram; Annie03; Baby Bear; bassmaner; Bernard; BJClinton; BlackbirdSST; blackeagle; BroncosFan; ...
Libertarian ping.To be added or removed from my ping list freepmail me or post a message here.
22 posted on 05/03/2005 7:51:48 AM PDT by freepatriot32 (If you want to change government support the libertarian party www.lp.org)
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To: areafiftyone

Good Lord, how sick. That sickening stench you smell is the decay and rot of our society.


24 posted on 05/03/2005 7:53:33 AM PDT by reagan_fanatic (It takes all kinds of critters...to make Farmer Vincents fritters)
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To: areafiftyone

So she was raped while in state care. Chalk up another one for the Florida DCF.


25 posted on 05/03/2005 7:55:31 AM PDT by ellery (The true danger is when liberty is nibbled away, for expedience, and by parts. - Edmund Burke)
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To: petitfour

"The teenager's life is not over. Her childhood is. Her childhood may have been over years ago. This is very, very sad."

I have to agree with you.


26 posted on 05/03/2005 7:55:58 AM PDT by Americanexpat (A strong democracy through citizen oversight.)
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To: ellery

So sad. This girl never had a childhood!


27 posted on 05/03/2005 7:59:32 AM PDT by areafiftyone (Politicians Are Like Diapers, Both Need To Be Changed Often And For The Same Reason!)
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To: ukie
Why is it that right-to-lifers only seem to care about the fetus, and not the child?

Mindless cliches. Chapter One.

28 posted on 05/03/2005 7:59:48 AM PDT by Skooz (Jesus Christ Set Me Free of Drug Addiction in 1985. Thank You, Lord.)
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To: ukie
Why is it that right-to-lifers only seem to care about the fetus, and not the child

On what proof do you make that accusation?

29 posted on 05/03/2005 7:59:58 AM PDT by frogjerk
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To: yellowdoghunter
She is 13. You really think this child having a baby is going to help anything? Obviously she would not be able to keep it if she did and it would it end up in adoption hell.
I can't agree with this poor child having the baby.
This is one of those Grey areas in the abortion debate and also we don't know the circumstances of how she got pregnant, was statutory rape involved, etc..
30 posted on 05/03/2005 8:00:20 AM PDT by Captain Peter Blood
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To: areafiftyone

So true. Awful.


31 posted on 05/03/2005 8:01:39 AM PDT by ellery (The true danger is when liberty is nibbled away, for expedience, and by parts. - Edmund Burke)
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To: Captain Peter Blood

How is murdering the baby going to help things?

I see no grey in this matter. She could be carrying the child that cures cancer for all we know.


32 posted on 05/03/2005 8:02:07 AM PDT by yellowdoghunter (FR is so popular that people repost our thoughts on different message boards! It is an honor!)
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To: Captain Peter Blood

How is being adopted by loving parents "adoption hell?"

The real problem is that she very well could choose to keep the baby. This would be her right, but the poor kid is almost certainly in no position to care for a baby. The infant would likely end up another ward of DCF, and the cycle would repeat.

Prayers for all involved.


33 posted on 05/03/2005 8:05:43 AM PDT by ellery (The true danger is when liberty is nibbled away, for expedience, and by parts. - Edmund Burke)
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To: areafiftyone

Culture of death alert.


34 posted on 05/03/2005 8:06:27 AM PDT by I'm ALL Right! (WWW.TEACH-YOUR-KIDS.COM)
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To: Captain Peter Blood

There's nothing gray about this. It's not the baby's fault the mom is an idiot. As far as not knowing the circumstances, again, not the baby's fault. Feel to dream up any extraordinary possibilities you like by channelling the ghost of Erskin Caldwell, but it won't matter.

What is grey - that the baby won't be "loved"? God, think of all the lonely or obnoxious people we could execute by that standard!


35 posted on 05/03/2005 8:06:41 AM PDT by Puddleglum (Thank God the Boston blowhard lost)
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To: Captain Peter Blood
Obviously she would not be able to keep it if she did and it would it end up in adoption hell.

Adoption hell??? As an adoptive parent, I take offense at that. And as the kind of person who supports abortion, you no doubt agree that offending others is vastly worse than butchering innocent babies, so you are destined to rot in (PC) hell your own self.

36 posted on 05/03/2005 8:12:17 AM PDT by madprof98
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To: St. Johann Tetzel

sadness ping


37 posted on 05/03/2005 8:12:30 AM PDT by no more apples (Don't forget our Troops in Afghanistan and Iraq - they fight for our freedom!)
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To: yellowdoghunter
If you take the emotion out of abortion you find it a very Grey issue, there are no Black & White absolutes.
Now do you find it acceptable
for abortion in cases of Rape, Incest or the Mother's life being in danger?
Now in this case we do not know what the circumstances of the pregnancy was. Was it rape? If so are you going to make this child have that baby?
What if this was your 13 year old child, are you going to make her have this baby? If so then what will you do, raise it yourself? You see the more think about it the more complicated it becomes and what are the answers here?
38 posted on 05/03/2005 8:13:17 AM PDT by Captain Peter Blood
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To: Captain Peter Blood

That won't be a popular post but I agree. This kid is probably screwed up bad and has no business having babies. If she had this baby most likely the court would let her keep the child if that's what she wanted. They'd live in a foster home after foster home together. She'd be a terrible mother and probably end up having several more kids, all of which would end up being wards of the state who would probably end up being as screwed up as their mother. Then they'd have a bunch of kids themselves at a young age who would probably end up as wards of the state or on government assistance. It just keeps on going.

I see these kids all the time in juvenile court. Their parents are worthless. The kids are perpetual screw ups like their parents that I'll see in adult felony court a few years down the road, just like I see their parents now. They get pregnant as teens, just like their mothers did and like their mothers they end up being terrible parents with screwed up kids. Only it starts out with a couple of bad parents and then through these accelerated generations the family tree fans out like a pyramid from the top down.


39 posted on 05/03/2005 8:16:54 AM PDT by TKDietz
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To: Captain Peter Blood

Murdering a innocent child is not the answer. There are many loving, stable, two-parent families who would love to adopt this child. She should give birth and the child should be immediately placed in her adoptive home, all strings cut to the bio. mother. The 13 year old should be given the birth control shot that lasts awhile.

Also, states need to make adoptive parents feel more secure in their adoption. People are less willingly to get involved in the adoption process because the states do all kinds of crazy thing later, like taking the child back, giving out your info. etc....


40 posted on 05/03/2005 8:21:12 AM PDT by yellowdoghunter (FR is so popular that people repost our thoughts on different message boards! It is an honor!)
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