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Doug Giles: Jesus, Justice and Jack A**es
Townhall.com ^ | 4/30/05 | Doug Giles

Posted on 04/30/2005 3:56:01 PM PDT by wagglebee

I got a few emails from some Christians after my last column, “A Time to Kill,” ran. They found my easiness with executing confessed and convicted child molesters, rapists and murderers to be offensive and un-Christ like. They stated that I showed a “lack of love” for these culprits whom Christ “cares for,” and that I should “err on the side of mercy” towards these marauders and “love my enemies,” as this would be “the Christian thing to do.” Yes, I was electronically told by this, merciful-to-the-molester-minority, who thinks they’re siding with God when they support sustaining killers who forcefully copulate with kids, that I am to “love the sinner and hate the sin.”

Well, Kum-Ba-Frickin’- Yah!

Excuse me . . . but I still think that we should go Old Testament on guilty child molesters and ought to end their sad story in a selected gravel pit ala a community stoning.

I hate to seem heretical and hellish to such bleeding hearts, but my pity begins and ends with the raped or molested or murdered child, and I really don’t care about the perpetrator who has harmed the helpless. As far as I’m concerned, once you rape a little kid you officially get logged onto heaven’s eternal jerk roll and should be irrevocably placed on the must-die-quick list.

As far as my duty to my enemy or neighbor, I believe the biblical injunction/ maxim is to “love my neighbor and my enemy as I love myself.”

Here are my thoughts on me “loving me” if I were the one to have kidnapped a nine year old little girl, then raped her, then buried her alive, then stuck her in a 55-gallon Hefty trash sack, then left her in a shallow grave to die:

If I did such a damnable act and really loved myself, then I would dutifully subject my person to punishment—in particular to death. Yes, if I really loved myself, I would bear responsibility for my actions, which means that I would insist on taking one for the team by leaving this planet, via execution, because I have just violently offended the sensibility of the entire human collective.

If I were the toad that took the life of the Lundsford or the Lunde girl, the right “Christian” thing to do to show that I “love myself” would be to confess to the crime, give myself up to the police, seek forgiveness from Almighty God (and beg it from all family members of my victim) and then ask to be deleted. I’m not part of the Kool-Aid drinkers who think “loving your enemy as one loves himself” excludes punishing to death the perpetrator—whether it’s someone else or me.

Here’s what we are up against in the formerly good ole US of A. Think about this before you talk about showing “love and mercy” to molesters and start doling out religious quips and clichés to those of us who are trying to put an end to these predators prowling our parks. Here’s some reality, Saccharine Saint—if you can handle it.

REALITY: There are more than 2 million convicted sex offenders currently living among us, not in prison.

REALITY: Over a 25-year period, more than half of all child molesters will be rearrested for a new sex offense charge.

REALITY: We release more than 200,000 criminals from prison each year, and they go on to commit an extraordinary number of new crimes. For example, during just the first three years following release, these criminals commit more than 3,000 new homicides, more than 3,000 new rapes and more than 3,000 new sex assaults against children. In other words, just like the terrorists of “9/11” who killed 3,000 Americans, we release criminals every year who we know will commit more “9/11’s”.

REALITY: More than 2/3 of all criminals released from prison will be rearrested within three years.

REALITY: The average time served for rape is just six years.

REALITY: The average time served for molesting a child is just three years.

REALITY: Most studies of repeat offenders are designed to hide the true extent of this scandal. Typically, they follow released criminals for just two or three years. But one 25-year study showed that 3/4 of all subsequent convictions occurred more than three years after the criminal’s release from prison. In other words, a study that tracks offenders for just three years misses 75% of the future crimes they will commit on innocent people.

REALITY: Even if your state has long prison sentences, don’t think that makes you safe. One in eight released felons commits their next offense in a different state from the one where they served their time.

REALITY: Ever heard of the car and the bus? Hundreds of millions of dollars are spent each year maintaining address lists of released sex offenders, without any acknowledgement by law enforcement or public officials that nothing prevents a released child molester or rapist from getting in a car or a bus, going to another neighborhood and committing a new crime there. Every day in America, sex offenders fully compliant with Megan’s Law commit new rapes and child molestations.

REALITY: A released felon is 53 times more likely than the average man on the street to commit a subsequent homicide.

REALITY: While advocates of releasing predators cite the cost of incarceration ($17,000-$25,000 per year) as too great for government to pay to keep criminals behind bars, NO STUDY has ever tried to calculate the cost to society of the millions of women who have been raped, the millions of children who have been molested, the loss to a family when a loved one is murdered or the cost when someone is mugged or robbed or carjacked.

*These disturbing statistics came from U.S. Department of Justice were compiled by Mike Paranzino and his stellar organization, www.ThrowAwayTheKey.org .

My ClashPoint is this: I understand the need for humans to seem humane and for Christians to seem supernatural in their ability to be “merciful and loving” to the best of the worst, but I submit that being supernatural in their ability to be merciful & loving is more important than seeming so . . . and it should start with showing love & mercy to our children and neighbors first—by protecting them from these savages. Sometimes the most loving and merciful act to be shown a criminal is to prevent him from doing more harm. And someone had better begin doling out death sentences for child molesters, or our neighborhoods are quickly going to turn into one big Neverland Ranch.


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KEYWORDS: capitalpunishment; childmolesters; christianity; douggiles; execution; rapists
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Yes, I was electronically told by this, merciful-to-the-molester-minority, who thinks they’re siding with God when they support sustaining killers who forcefully copulate with kids, that I am to “love the sinner and hate the sin.”

Well, Kum-Ba-Frickin’- Yah!

Excuse me . . . but I still think that we should go Old Testament on guilty child molesters and ought to end their sad story in a selected gravel pit ala a community stoning.

Sounds about right to me.

1 posted on 04/30/2005 3:56:01 PM PDT by wagglebee
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To: wagglebee

"Well, Kum-Ba-Frickin’- Yah!

Excuse me . . . but I still think that we should go Old Testament on guilty child molesters and ought to end their sad story in a selected gravel pit ala a community stoning."

A man after my own heart.


2 posted on 04/30/2005 3:58:02 PM PDT by Search4Truth (When a man lies he murders some part of the world.)
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To: wagglebee

He must have been communicating with the liberal Christians.


3 posted on 04/30/2005 3:59:00 PM PDT by Brilliant
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To: Brilliant

I think so.
As I recall, Jesus himself said something about hanging a millstone around one's neck and being cast into the sea for harming one hair on the head of a little one...


4 posted on 04/30/2005 4:02:35 PM PDT by Paisan
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To: Paisan

Hey, that's right. Do you think we can sell it to the Supreme Court, though?


5 posted on 04/30/2005 4:03:49 PM PDT by Brilliant
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To: Paisan

That was what I was going to point out. I don't think Jesus takes too kindly to child molesters.


6 posted on 04/30/2005 4:07:34 PM PDT by mlc9852
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To: Brilliant

well we could either do this or we could wait around for the parents to start vigilante justice after having lost all respect for the courts and their system.....this idea appeals to me also.


7 posted on 04/30/2005 4:08:18 PM PDT by annelizly
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To: Paisan
No, not quite:
But if anyone causes one of these little ones who believe in me to sin, it would be better for him to have a large millstone hung around his neck and to be drowned in the depths of the sea.
This is not a call to do such a thing---it is a description of how bad that person's punishment will be in the afterlife.
8 posted on 04/30/2005 4:09:12 PM PDT by mcg1969
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To: mcg1969

When it comes to these guys an early start wouldn't be a bad idea.


9 posted on 04/30/2005 4:16:49 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: wagglebee
Actually, to "go Old Testament" is to go "New Testament" on these people. "In God there is no variation, nor shadow of turning." and "God is not the author of confusion."

So there can only be one message out of the Bible. And there is. See John 1:1, speaking of Jesus, John wrote: "In the beginning was the Word [Jesus], and the Word was with God, and the Word was God." Ex-queeeze me? If the Word, Jesus, was "with God," and there can be no difference in God the Father and God the Son, then Jesus fully endorsed capital punishment and, when necessary, political warfare. When God instructed the Jews to slaughter the inhabitants of AI, Jesus said "Yes, and Amen." He had to---there can be no difference between God the Father and God the Son.

10 posted on 04/30/2005 4:19:13 PM PDT by LS (CNN is the Amtrak of news)
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To: mcg1969

Um, who do you think will do the punishing? And that does NOT mean there should not be punishment in this life, too, for crimes ("render unto Caesar . . . ."). Obedience to the laws is to be rendered to the state.


11 posted on 04/30/2005 4:20:17 PM PDT by LS (CNN is the Amtrak of news)
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To: mcg1969

I stand corrected.


12 posted on 04/30/2005 4:20:56 PM PDT by Paisan
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To: wagglebee

I got a few emails from some Christians after my last column, “A Time to Kill,” ran. They found my easiness with executing confessed and convicted child molesters, rapists and murderers to be offensive and un-Christ like

I am a Christian and I am not offended By You.

"If Man sheds Man's Blood,By Man shall his Blood Be Shed."

That's the words of GOD.


13 posted on 04/30/2005 4:31:57 PM PDT by LtKerst (Lt Kerst)
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To: wagglebee

I gather that the author understands that God HImself killed the sons of Aaron(Lev 10) and Judah (Gen 38, I Ch 2). (And that is just the beginning of what can be enumerated.) God certainly loved them enough but killed them because they transgressed. And let us not forget that God is mercy!

This love the sinner stuff is a mantra rather than a principle and many ill taught individuals are wallowing in sin by not "working out their own salvation with fear and trembling". Their misguided pastors and leaders will not be there to answer for them when they face the Lord.

Our Nation is awash with sin because what is supposed to be salt is worthless before the throne.


14 posted on 04/30/2005 4:33:44 PM PDT by Spirited (God, Bless America;)
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To: wagglebee

"A released felon is 53 times more likely than the average man on the street to commit a subsequent homicide".

IMHO Imprisonment increases the desire for revenge, especially in the unhinged. Pedophiles escalate to murder to silence their victims. It's pretty clear they should be sentenced to life on first offense conviction. They cannot be cured, rehabilitated or re-hinged.

sp


15 posted on 04/30/2005 4:38:52 PM PDT by sodpoodle (The Ivory Billed Woodpecker lives - so there PETA!)
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To: wagglebee
I have to admit I have un Christian thoughts when I think about child molesters, child slavers and child pimps.

Every friggin one of them needs to hang on a gallows.
16 posted on 04/30/2005 4:42:16 PM PDT by Americanexpat (A strong democracy through citizen oversight.)
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To: wagglebee
Too many Christians think love doesn't involve punishment. Nothing could not be further from the truth. I guess they never read this part of the Bible.

Acts 5
1 But a certain man named Ananias, with Sapphira his wife, sold a possession,
2 And kept back part of the price, his wife also being privy to it, and brought a certain part, and laid it at the apostles' feet.
3 But Peter said, Ananias, why hath Satan filled thine heart to lie to the Holy Ghost, and to keep back part of the price of the land?
4 Whiles it remained, was it not thine own? and after it was sold, was it not in thine own power? why hast thou conceived this thing in thine heart? thou hast not lied unto men, but unto God.
5 And Ananias hearing these words fell down, and gave up the ghost: and great fear came on all them that heard these things.
6 And the young men arose, wound him up, and carried him out, and buried him.
7 And it was about the space of three hours after, when his wife, not knowing what was done, came in.
8 And Peter answered unto her, Tell me whether ye sold the land for so much? And she said, Yea, for so much.
9 Then Peter said unto her, How is it that ye have agreed together to tempt the Spirit of the Lord? behold, the feet of them which have buried thy husband are at the door, and shall carry thee out.
10 Then fell she down straightway at his feet, and yielded up the ghost: and the young men came in, and found her dead, and, carrying her forth, buried her by her husband.

17 posted on 04/30/2005 4:44:09 PM PDT by HisKingdomWillAbolishSinDeath (Proverbs 10:30 The righteous shall never be removed: but the wicked shall not inhabit the earth.)
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To: wagglebee
Psalms 97:10 - Ye that love the LORD, hate evil: he preserveth the souls of his saints; he delivereth them out of the hand of the wicked.
Psalms 139:21-22 - Do not I hate them, O LORD, that hate thee? and am not I grieved with those that rise up against thee? - I hate them with perfect hatred: I count them mine enemies.

It is very easy to see that the Lord hates those that brake his commandments and I think that rape and so forth is for sure on the don't do list, it is NOT approved habit. That is what these repeat offenders have is a 'habit'. So YES lets meet at the local gravel pit and stone a few of the 22,000 or more save a few tax $$ besides.

18 posted on 04/30/2005 4:47:11 PM PDT by Phyto Chems (http://www.prolifewashington.org/)
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To: wagglebee

I think that in this context all that “love the sinner and hate the sin” would require is for the molester to be given a chance to repent before his execution.


19 posted on 04/30/2005 4:49:18 PM PDT by omega4412
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To: LtKerst
What about these words of God?

Mal 3:6 For I [am] the LORD, I change not; therefore ye sons of Jacob are not consumed.

His Statutes and Laws have not changed any more than He has.
Even the Christ had to fulfil the law:
Mat 5:17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.

20 posted on 04/30/2005 4:52:39 PM PDT by Spirited (God, Bless America;)
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