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INCREASED MAC OS X HACKING ACTIVITY
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| 4/26/2005
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Posted on 04/30/2005 1:52:59 PM PDT by Swordmaker
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EXCELLENT article on the current state of Mac OSX security PING!
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posted on
04/30/2005 1:54:23 PM PDT
by
Swordmaker
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To: Swordmaker
If I was really conspiracy minded I would say MS is paying them. :)
To: Swordmaker
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posted on
04/30/2005 1:55:29 PM PDT
by
cmsgop
( Proud Member of The Western and Zionist Capitalists Club.)
To: Swordmaker
I appreciate your pings and often forward them to my hubby!
To: Swordmaker
If I were a hacker I would target MAC OS just to wipe the self satisfied complacent smile of smug superioroty of the faces of MAC users everywhere.
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posted on
04/30/2005 2:42:39 PM PDT
by
Maceman
(Too nuanced for a bumper sticker)
To: Swordmaker
The root (superuser) account should not be enabled. WTF??? One of the first things you should do on a new install is to enable the root account and give it a secure password - better that YOU do it before someone ELSE figures out how to do it remotely.
They must mean that you should not be internet-connected while you're the root user.
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posted on
04/30/2005 2:54:58 PM PDT
by
solitas
(So what if I support a platform that has fewer flaws than yours? 'Mystic' dual 500 G4's, OSX.3.7)
To: Swordmaker
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posted on
04/30/2005 3:02:11 PM PDT
by
tubebender
(We child proofed our house but they still get in...)
To: Maceman
If you were good enough to hack it, you'd have a right to be proud.
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posted on
04/30/2005 3:04:26 PM PDT
by
Salo
To: solitas
WTF??? One of the first things you should do on a new install is to enable the root account and give it a secure passwordI think they mean "lock" the root password, so that there is not a way to login as the root user. This way you must first log in as a normal user and then type the root password to do certain operations - thus two accounts need to compromised, not just one.
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posted on
04/30/2005 3:05:00 PM PDT
by
ikka
To: solitas
Yeah, that's what I though too. I really think that they mean that you don't access the Internet as a root user (or with root privs. I would also say that they should avoid net access with operator's privs).
That said, Accessing the net with root privs can be okay - as long as you are careful and hit only trusted sites.
To: Swordmaker
Okay. All systems whether mechanical or biological have weaknesses and flaws. With enough interest and effort, it is bound to happen. Returning to news.
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posted on
04/30/2005 3:11:16 PM PDT
by
Army Air Corps
(Four fried chickens and a coke)
To: Salo
If you were good enough to hack it, you'd have a right to be proud.Well, not being a geek, I wouldn't know about that. But I seriouly doubt that any sytem is unhackable, given enough determined hackers with enough incentive to do it.
I think a lot of knowldgeable people will agree that one reason Macs have been spared thus far is because of its limited market penetration -- especially in the business world.
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posted on
04/30/2005 3:13:14 PM PDT
by
Maceman
(Too nuanced for a bumper sticker)
To: Maceman
I think a lot of knowldgeable people will agree that one reason Macs have been spared thus far is because of its limited market penetration -- especially in the business world.You might be interested in reading this post. It applies to your claim as well.
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posted on
04/30/2005 3:24:53 PM PDT
by
zeugma
(Come to the Dark Side...... We have cookies! (Made from the finest girlscouts!))
To: Swordmaker
Users should not open unexpected email attachments or untrusted applications Don't make me laugh so hard!!!
Herein lies the problem - the end user. This is how 90% or more of the worst problems occur as a general rule.
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posted on
04/30/2005 4:09:06 PM PDT
by
UseYourHead
(Just when I think you've said the stupidest thing ever, you keep talking.)
To: Maceman
If I were a hacker I would target MAC OS just to wipe the self satisfied complacent smile of smug superioroty of the faces of MAC users everywhereIf you were a girl. would you throw acid in the face of anyone prettier than you?
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posted on
04/30/2005 4:12:04 PM PDT
by
Woahhs
(America is an idea, not an address.)
To: Woahhs
If you were a girl. would you throw acid in the face of anyone prettier than you?I take your point, but personally I think your analogy fails on several levels.
But thanks for playing.
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posted on
04/30/2005 4:14:17 PM PDT
by
Maceman
(Too nuanced for a bumper sticker)
To: Maceman
I think a lot of knowldgeable people will agree that one reason Macs have been spared thus far is because of its limited market penetration -- especially in the business world. A "knowledgable" person was quoted by a leading magazine as saying "While it is probably possible to create an OSX virus. on a scale of one to ten the degree of difficulty is a nine." When asked where Windows was on that one to ten scale he replied "About two."
As to the "security by obscurity" canard... in the past year, hackers have targeted a router with fewer than 25,000 installed base and a cellular phone with fewer than 100,000 installed base. There are currently about 14,000,000 OSX Mac users... Newsweek cited 25,000,000 in an article last week... and there has never been a OSX virus seen in the wild. OSX has been out over 4 years... and no viruses or worms. Only two trojans have been reported. No spyware aside from tracking cookies has been discovered.
The real problem with writing a self-propagating virus or worm is the vector... how does it spread? Macs are designed to prevent this.
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posted on
04/30/2005 4:49:59 PM PDT
by
Swordmaker
(tagline now open, please ring bell.)
To: Maceman
The arguement has been made and debunked. For instance, IIS does not have the penetration that Apache does, but since it is easy to hack, it is targeted more.
I think a lot of knowldgeable people will agree that one reason Macs have been spared thus far is because of its limited market penetration -- especially in the business world.
You are correct: no system is unhackable - not even OpenBSD. That being a given, OSX is a very secure OS.
I seriouly doubt that any sytem is unhackable
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posted on
04/30/2005 4:50:43 PM PDT
by
Salo
To: Maceman
Hackers are just sociopaths; the reason for our smiles is that hackers are naturally attracted to that other platform.
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posted on
04/30/2005 5:38:00 PM PDT
by
SunkenCiv
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