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U.S. sodomy lobby attacks Pope Benedict XVI
WorldNetDaily ^ | 4/26/05 | Les Kinsolving

Posted on 04/26/2005 6:38:17 PM PDT by wagglebee

New York's Gov. Al Smith not only opposed Prohibition, but in 1928 he became the first Roman Catholic ever nominated by a major party to be president.

This resulted in some of America's worst anti-Catholic expressions of bigotry – including a rumor that Gov. Smith was planning to invite the pope to make an extended visit in order to supervise the conversion of this nation to a Roman Catholic country.

When Gov. Smith lost to Herbert Hoover by 444 to 87 electoral votes, he had the good sense of humor and sportsmanship to announce that he had just sent a one-word cable to the pope: "Unpack."

Now, within hours of the election of Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger as the new Pope Benedict XVI, this new pope has been attacked by at least four of America's Sodomy Lobby:

* The "Parents, Families and Friends of Lesbian And Gays (PFLAG) stated that the new pope does not represent a hopeful vision of the future ... He authored a Vatican document condemning marriage and adoption by gay men and lesbians in July 2003."

The Washington Blade (a Washington, D.C., homosexual newspaper) described the document as "a battle plan for Catholic politicians". (Think of that – a "battle plan"! Will the new pontiff come to the United States – as rumored in 1928 – to help Catholic politicians like Sen. Kerry win the battle?)

* The Gay Lesbian Alliance Against Defamation "is calling on the nation's media to examine Ratzinger's documented rhetoric and writings related to gays and lesbians ... In documents dating back to the 1980's, Ratzinger has branded gays and lesbians as 'objectively disordered' and being gay as a 'moral disorder' requiring a 'conversion from evil.' He has accused gay and lesbian parents of 'doing violence to their children' and he has denounced laws protecting same-sex couples and families as 'the approval or legalization of evil.'"

(Question: Did GLAAD learn all this in the two days since Cardinal Ratzinger's election? Or isn't it far more probable that they have been researching him – as the enemy – for years, in order to produce an extensive documentary of denunciation even before he is installed?)

* The deceptively titled "Human Rights Campaign" (which really ought to be honest enough to change that title to "Sodomy Rights Campaign") stated the following: "We hope Pope Benedict XVI will follow the biblical tradition of expressing love and compassion for all."

Where in the Holy Bible is there any verse expressing approval of the act of sodomy? In the New Testament, Jesus Christ, speaking to those who offend little children (and what is more offensive than child molesting?) said: "It were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck and he cast into the sea, than he should offend one these little ones" (Luke 2:17).

The "Human Rights Campaign" also noted: "In 1986, Cardinal Ratzinger in a letter to the Catholic bishops, wrote: 'Although the particular inclination of the homosexual person is not sin, it is a more or less strong tendency ordered toward an intrinsic moral evil.'"

* The Rainbow Sash Movement wrote that they were "deeply disappointed with the choice of Cardinal Ratzinger as pope. We had hoped for a pastor and shepherd, instead we get a doctrinal enforcer." This statement goes on to declare: "We remind our fellow Catholics that we are the Church ... The Rainbow Sash Movement will continue to call for openness, toleration and inclusion in the Church."

(Question: Have Rainbow Sash or any of these other three organizations made any statement that there should be marriage for other sexual orientations, such as necrophilia, sadomasochism or bestiality?)

It was rather disagreeably hasty for these four groups to attack the new pope so quickly. But all of their attacks are a badge of honor for this moral leader, who was so quickly elected to lead what is by far Christianity's largest denomination.


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To: Diago
Whoa! Wait a minute. I just clicked on the first link you mentioned. And then clicked on this sublink from that same site:

http://www.dioceseofcleveland.org/gayandlesbianfamilyministry/the_church/index.htm

They link directly to the Catechism and even to the statements on homosexuality made by the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith in 1975. Is it possible that this organization in the Diocese of Cleveland is just counseling gays to live chastely and celibately in accordance with the Catechism? If that's what they're doing, I don't have a problem with them.

Please correct me if I'm wrong. I am sincerely interested in what's going on here.

21 posted on 04/26/2005 8:13:44 PM PDT by GipperGal
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To: GipperGal

No, GipperGal, the Diocese of Cleveland, despite its footnote to the catachism, actively promotes homosexuality:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/762432/posts


The following appeared in "The Wanderer's" from the mail section. (This does not appear on the website, I had to type it in):

In Cleveland, which has been racked with the most damaging sex abuse scandals outside of Boston and Los Angeles, diocesan officials, including Bishop Anthony Pilla, maintain a stiff upper lip as some homosexual activists in the chancery and parishes continue to transform parishes into gay-friendly communities. Consider:

The Diocese of Cleveland's official web site (www.dioceseofcleveland.com) greets the viewer with a rainbow flag, and gay activists at the diocese's Gay and Lesbian Family Ministry (GLFM) office are way out and way proud.

One member of the GLFM recorded his experience on an area gay web site of his participation in the Cleveland Gay Pride Parade, informing, "The catholic group had a very nice sized contingent. There were a whole ton of other religious groups as well...Oh, did I mention that I am in the same video as a pornstar?!...Our table was almost across from The Grid's table, so we got to watch Matt Rush shirtless signing autographs and posing for pictures most of the afternoon. I felt so uncouth ogling a pornstar and trying to be a respectable representative of the Catholic Diocese of Cleveland...

"The Stonewall Democrats had the booth next to The Grid, and they had some mighty fine shirtless guys sitting at their table, too. After we took down our table at the pride festival, seven of us from the Catholic group went out to dinner...We also had the same waiter that we had last time...the cute one with attitude."

The author of that revealing letter is the apparent friend of Brian Halderman, a longtime gay activist of the Diocese of Cleveland who recently announced that he is joining the Society of Mary (Marianists) in Dayton.

In another Internet chat thread sent to FTM by a Cleveland reader, Halderman revealed that while a parishioner at Ascension Church (a church plagued by a number of predator priests), he was a chatechist involved in the sacramental preparation of second graders.

Reader, does all this help you understand what bishops such as Clark and Hubbard and Pilla mean by the "lay-run church.

You can contact the diocese of Cleveland toll free at 1-800-869-6525 or by e-mailing:

info@dioceseofcleveland.org


22 posted on 04/26/2005 8:45:48 PM PDT by Diago
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The below was also posted some time ago. Follow the link for even more:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/914519/posts

The following email has been flying around the Cleveland area since this weekend. It appears that the Diocesan contact for a recent Cleveland Diocese Gay and Lesbian Retreat is also the contact for the Egg Moon Farm, a lesbian compound described at Lesbian.com as "Land Dykes."

Here you go:

If you thought the Cleveland Diocese Gay and Lesbian group was out of control before, you will not believe this one. The gay group at the diocese, futurechurch, and those who hate the church remain one big incestuous mess. I apologize in advance for the disturbing nature of this e-mail, but before it is stopped it must be exposed. Please forward it to others who care about our Catholic Faith.

The Gay community has it easy in Cleveland. If you want to attend a Gay and Lesbian Day of Prayer sponsored by the Cleveland Diocese, the diocesan website will direct you to contact Judy.

If you want to attend a Land Dyke compound ( http://www.lesbian.com/landdykes/landdykes_intro.html ) at the Egg Moon Farm, you can simply call the same Judy.

Judy describes the Egg Moon Farm as follows on her homepage: http://my.en.com/~judb/ (also note the futrechurch link on her website) :

I am very involved in my community and a participate in just about every kind of group imaginable. Kimbilio Farm and the womyn's land collective, Egg Moon Farm are my favorite places and where I hang out with my favorite womyn. Egg Moon Farm has been a real adventure, moving from a funky cow pasture infested with poison ivy and thorn bushes to a comfy campground within a few years . This a testament to the hard working and dedicated womyn who believe that the ideal of community without hierarchy is possible. It has been great fun creating this place, and it even has a cozy camping cabin. I was deeply touched when a good friend made a sign for a particular corner of the collective was named for me. Camp Jud' was my first step into transforming some uninviting outdoor space into a place where we could cook food, enjoy meals and sit under the protection of a tarp to tell stories, share our lives and discuss the state of our universe. Even though we now have a first class picnic pavilion and kitchen with all the amenities, the sign remains and Camp Jud' is still a place for wimmin to gather for any kind of chores and great conversation.




The Following is From the Egg Moon Farm Website:




http://www.valkyrie.net/~kimbilio/emf.html

The Land Collective Egg Moon Farm

The story so far...of our dream of a place in Holmes County, Ohio where women can work and play and build community.

MISSION STATEMENT...The Land Collective maintains rural land to create community without hierarchy and to create a space which is accessible to all women and where each woman is empowered and valued.

Who We Are

We are about 50 women, mostly lesbians, all woman-identified, who fromed a collective in 1995 to purchase land in Holmes County, Ohio. We range in age from 20 to 70+; most of us live around Cleveland. We are diverse across race and class; however, most of the women at meetings are middle class and euro-american. We want to be more inclusive and are working to get there. About the only thing we all have in common is that we believe in miracles - we somehow gathered enough women, money and hope to buy a chunk of land. We believe that we are limited only by our imaginations.

Values We Share

We strive for open decision-making without hierarchy, using various forms of consensus process and committee work. We feel we are custodians of land for women-not just for collective women. We are strongly committed to eliminating racism, classism, and other forms of oppression withinthe group and as they affect women's access to this land.

From the beginning, we have held the collective open for any woman willing to make a commitment to the land and the group. This commitment can take any form - perhaps contributing skills, tools, work shifts, monthly payments, or a lump sum payment toward a building project.

Our primary goal is to create safe, nurturing space for women. Each of us has a different vision of what that will be. We question the fear of scarcity, assuming that there are love, land, and resources enough to meet every collective woman's needs.

Things We've Done So Far

In October 1995, we bought 85 acres of farmland off TR 501, across from Kimbilio Farm, an established womens land community. We've planted trees, camped, put up a small shed, built a picnic palace, built a small cabin for women who aren't into camping, made a wildflower field, held successful womens festivals, LandFest 97,98, 99, 00 and leased land to a neighbor for organic farming. Several of us have also built tent platforms. We've held regular meetings, working through decisions on everything from getting liability insurance to planning anniversary celebrations.

Challenges We Face

In the rush to buy the land and make the payments, some important things got set aside. We want to make a land trust or non-profit legal structure to hold all or part of the land. Each season, new issues come up:will we lease land for farming this year? Will we allow hunting on the land? How will we get some space mowed for camping? And, we have big and fabulous ideas in the works. We see gardens, and gatherings, and workshops, and artisans, and space for spirituality, and...

Why We Need You

Every day, at every meeting, during every visit to the land, we are inventing women's community. It is wonderful, difficult, invigorating, draining, important work. We are asking for your input, your vision, your wisdom, your time, your experiences, your energy, your skills - yourself. Call one of the women below and talk. Come to a collective meeting or check out a committee project. Join us for a work day on the land. You are limited only by your imagination.

For more information call Sally at 216-932-0977 or Judy at 216-227-1243 or you can email at EggMoonFarm@hotmail.com

Egg Moon Farm - P.O. Box 18771 - Cleveland Heights, OH 44118-0771




The Following is From the Diocese of Cleveland Website:




http://www.dioceseofcleveland.org/gayandlesbianfamilyministry/events/index.htm

The Gay and Lesbian Catholic Community’s

Lenten Day of Prayer

Saturday, March 22, 2003, 8:00 am to 7 pm

$10.00 per person

Morning Coffee and Donuts

Lunch and Dinner Provided

If you are unable to be with us for the entire day,

join us at 4:30 PM for Mass followed by dinner.

For reservations call: Denis at 216-939-8198; Judy at

216-227-1243; or Paula at 216-696-6525 Ext. 3500




Advent Prayer Service 2nd Sunday of Advent, 2003 East side Parish >More Information Coming Soon<

Gay and Lesbian Family Ministry - Catholic Diocese of Cleveland





23 posted on 04/26/2005 8:49:03 PM PDT by Diago
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To: Diago

The logo looks like a red flying demon.
How appropriate.


24 posted on 04/26/2005 9:11:01 PM PDT by XR7
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To: Diago
Creepy stuff. I'm sincerely sorry to learn that you are right and I am wrong. I really did want to believe that this stuff was not going on.

You know, Diago, I'm wondering if they put the Catechism links and the somewhat vague wording on their website to fool people like me whose first instinct is to assume the best (i.e. "the Church wouldn't sanction a gay organization advocating something which is obviously in direct opposition to the Church's teachings. This must be an outreach program to counsel people who struggle with this and want to live according to the Church's teachings.") You see what I mean? Maybe that's why they get away with this. They've infested themselves within the Church pretending to be something innocuous. What are your thoughts on this?

25 posted on 04/26/2005 9:11:25 PM PDT by GipperGal
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To: wagglebee
We had hoped for a pastor and shepherd, instead we get a doctrinal enforcer."

Grow up, morons! Enforcing doctrine is part of a pastor and shepherd's job. He does you no favours by letting you wander off into error.

26 posted on 04/26/2005 9:24:20 PM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilisation is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: St. Johann Tetzel; little jeremiah

R1 Alert!


27 posted on 04/26/2005 9:26:18 PM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilisation is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: wagglebee
You cannot make good that which is bad. You cannot make an omlet without eggs. Likewise among human beings, sexuality has a natural correspondence and among other things, a basic purpose of the sexual act is procreation. Homosexuals cannot conceive. So, since they deny the impulse that brings life into being, their conduct is insufficient in both a human as well as a moral dimension. For this reason, no religion can grant moral approval to homosexuality and all that it means for the well-being of Man in the aspects just mentioned.

(Denny Crane: "Sometimes you can only look for answers from God and failing that... and Fox News".)
28 posted on 04/26/2005 9:32:51 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: wagglebee
Let's pray there IS a "battle plan for Catholic politicians".

Not that it will help some: the most appalling pollies are often those who claim to be "Catholic". I can't see Kennedy or Kerry embracing such a plan in a hurry.
30 posted on 04/26/2005 10:43:16 PM PDT by Aussie Dasher (Hillary for President? She wants to be Pope!!!!)
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To: ArrogantBustard

I'm ignorant. What is an R1 alert?


31 posted on 04/26/2005 11:05:14 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Resisting evil is our duty or we are as responsible as those promoting it.)
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To: seamole
Fortunately, we all have less than a hundred years to suffer in this world, and then Judgement.

I appreciate the info... Alarmingly, no one else I talk to has access to the date for The End of the World.

32 posted on 04/26/2005 11:10:22 PM PDT by Stonedog (I don't know what your problem is, but I bet it's difficult to pronounce.)
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To: wagglebee
"We remind our fellow Catholics that we are the Church ... The Rainbow Sash Movement will continue to call for openness, toleration and inclusion in the Church."

You people are abominations. How any Catholic Church could have them in it without being desecrated is beyond me.

33 posted on 04/26/2005 11:11:51 PM PDT by Centurion2000 (Nations do not survive by setting examples for others. Nations survive by making examples of others)
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To: seamole
Fortunately, we all have less than a hundred years to suffer in this world, and then Judgement.

My goodness, aren't you the optimist! LOL! Did someone forget to take their prozac this morning?

34 posted on 04/26/2005 11:13:30 PM PDT by GipperGal
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To: little jeremiah
What is an R1 alert?

Ditto that question!

35 posted on 04/26/2005 11:14:30 PM PDT by GipperGal
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To: seamole

How do YOU know who Mahoney voted for?


36 posted on 04/26/2005 11:42:38 PM PDT by IrishRainy
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To: IrishRainy
How do YOU know he's not Mahoney himself?

Just kidding... :)

37 posted on 04/26/2005 11:49:28 PM PDT by GipperGal
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To: Diago
This sounds just like a JIM JONES cult, but, it's a feminist Jim Jones cult.
Were is their so called liberal " tolerance " belief of non discrimination in not discriminating against men ?
Just goes to prove and show, that the liberals/fems/gays are not really for equality and equal rights for everyone.
They want special rights for their own group, and they want to have a world of domination over men, plan and simple.
This is nothing but a brainwashing indoctrination cult to brainwash and to indoctrinate women to believe in a society without men.
38 posted on 04/27/2005 2:19:11 AM PDT by Prophet in the wilderness (PSALM 53 : 1 The ( FOOL ) hath said in his heart , There is no GOD .)
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To: XR7
Yes.. and they deceive people with the guise of using a dove in their logo into thinking that their movement is a gift from GOD.
God does not approve of their perversion of the relationship between men and women.
Feminism and homosexuality is purely demonic and satanic.
Feminism and the homosexuals will be at the forefront of the force and movement to usher in the anti-Christ.
The feminist and the homosexuals are the pawns of the devil and the anti-christ.
39 posted on 04/27/2005 2:24:23 AM PDT by Prophet in the wilderness (PSALM 53 : 1 The ( FOOL ) hath said in his heart , There is no GOD .)
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