Posted on 04/26/2005 6:38:17 PM PDT by wagglebee
New York's Gov. Al Smith not only opposed Prohibition, but in 1928 he became the first Roman Catholic ever nominated by a major party to be president.
This resulted in some of America's worst anti-Catholic expressions of bigotry including a rumor that Gov. Smith was planning to invite the pope to make an extended visit in order to supervise the conversion of this nation to a Roman Catholic country.
When Gov. Smith lost to Herbert Hoover by 444 to 87 electoral votes, he had the good sense of humor and sportsmanship to announce that he had just sent a one-word cable to the pope: "Unpack."
Now, within hours of the election of Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger as the new Pope Benedict XVI, this new pope has been attacked by at least four of America's Sodomy Lobby:
* The "Parents, Families and Friends of Lesbian And Gays (PFLAG) stated that the new pope does not represent a hopeful vision of the future ... He authored a Vatican document condemning marriage and adoption by gay men and lesbians in July 2003."
The Washington Blade (a Washington, D.C., homosexual newspaper) described the document as "a battle plan for Catholic politicians". (Think of that a "battle plan"! Will the new pontiff come to the United States as rumored in 1928 to help Catholic politicians like Sen. Kerry win the battle?)
* The Gay Lesbian Alliance Against Defamation "is calling on the nation's media to examine Ratzinger's documented rhetoric and writings related to gays and lesbians ... In documents dating back to the 1980's, Ratzinger has branded gays and lesbians as 'objectively disordered' and being gay as a 'moral disorder' requiring a 'conversion from evil.' He has accused gay and lesbian parents of 'doing violence to their children' and he has denounced laws protecting same-sex couples and families as 'the approval or legalization of evil.'"
(Question: Did GLAAD learn all this in the two days since Cardinal Ratzinger's election? Or isn't it far more probable that they have been researching him as the enemy for years, in order to produce an extensive documentary of denunciation even before he is installed?)
* The deceptively titled "Human Rights Campaign" (which really ought to be honest enough to change that title to "Sodomy Rights Campaign") stated the following: "We hope Pope Benedict XVI will follow the biblical tradition of expressing love and compassion for all."
Where in the Holy Bible is there any verse expressing approval of the act of sodomy? In the New Testament, Jesus Christ, speaking to those who offend little children (and what is more offensive than child molesting?) said: "It were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck and he cast into the sea, than he should offend one these little ones" (Luke 2:17).
The "Human Rights Campaign" also noted: "In 1986, Cardinal Ratzinger in a letter to the Catholic bishops, wrote: 'Although the particular inclination of the homosexual person is not sin, it is a more or less strong tendency ordered toward an intrinsic moral evil.'"
* The Rainbow Sash Movement wrote that they were "deeply disappointed with the choice of Cardinal Ratzinger as pope. We had hoped for a pastor and shepherd, instead we get a doctrinal enforcer." This statement goes on to declare: "We remind our fellow Catholics that we are the Church ... The Rainbow Sash Movement will continue to call for openness, toleration and inclusion in the Church."
(Question: Have Rainbow Sash or any of these other three organizations made any statement that there should be marriage for other sexual orientations, such as necrophilia, sadomasochism or bestiality?)
It was rather disagreeably hasty for these four groups to attack the new pope so quickly. But all of their attacks are a badge of honor for this moral leader, who was so quickly elected to lead what is by far Christianity's largest denomination.
http://www.dioceseofcleveland.org/gayandlesbianfamilyministry/the_church/index.htm
They link directly to the Catechism and even to the statements on homosexuality made by the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith in 1975. Is it possible that this organization in the Diocese of Cleveland is just counseling gays to live chastely and celibately in accordance with the Catechism? If that's what they're doing, I don't have a problem with them.
Please correct me if I'm wrong. I am sincerely interested in what's going on here.
No, GipperGal, the Diocese of Cleveland, despite its footnote to the catachism, actively promotes homosexuality:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/762432/posts
The following appeared in "The Wanderer's" from the mail section. (This does not appear on the website, I had to type it in):
In Cleveland, which has been racked with the most damaging sex abuse scandals outside of Boston and Los Angeles, diocesan officials, including Bishop Anthony Pilla, maintain a stiff upper lip as some homosexual activists in the chancery and parishes continue to transform parishes into gay-friendly communities. Consider:
The Diocese of Cleveland's official web site (www.dioceseofcleveland.com) greets the viewer with a rainbow flag, and gay activists at the diocese's Gay and Lesbian Family Ministry (GLFM) office are way out and way proud.
One member of the GLFM recorded his experience on an area gay web site of his participation in the Cleveland Gay Pride Parade, informing, "The catholic group had a very nice sized contingent. There were a whole ton of other religious groups as well...Oh, did I mention that I am in the same video as a pornstar?!...Our table was almost across from The Grid's table, so we got to watch Matt Rush shirtless signing autographs and posing for pictures most of the afternoon. I felt so uncouth ogling a pornstar and trying to be a respectable representative of the Catholic Diocese of Cleveland...
"The Stonewall Democrats had the booth next to The Grid, and they had some mighty fine shirtless guys sitting at their table, too. After we took down our table at the pride festival, seven of us from the Catholic group went out to dinner...We also had the same waiter that we had last time...the cute one with attitude."
The author of that revealing letter is the apparent friend of Brian Halderman, a longtime gay activist of the Diocese of Cleveland who recently announced that he is joining the Society of Mary (Marianists) in Dayton.
In another Internet chat thread sent to FTM by a Cleveland reader, Halderman revealed that while a parishioner at Ascension Church (a church plagued by a number of predator priests), he was a chatechist involved in the sacramental preparation of second graders.
Reader, does all this help you understand what bishops such as Clark and Hubbard and Pilla mean by the "lay-run church.
You can contact the diocese of Cleveland toll free at 1-800-869-6525 or by e-mailing:
info@dioceseofcleveland.org
The below was also posted some time ago. Follow the link for even more:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/914519/posts
The following email has been flying around the Cleveland area since this weekend. It appears that the Diocesan contact for a recent Cleveland Diocese Gay and Lesbian Retreat is also the contact for the Egg Moon Farm, a lesbian compound described at Lesbian.com as "Land Dykes."
Here you go:
If you thought the Cleveland Diocese Gay and Lesbian group was out of control before, you will not believe this one. The gay group at the diocese, futurechurch, and those who hate the church remain one big incestuous mess. I apologize in advance for the disturbing nature of this e-mail, but before it is stopped it must be exposed. Please forward it to others who care about our Catholic Faith.
The Gay community has it easy in Cleveland. If you want to attend a Gay and Lesbian Day of Prayer sponsored by the Cleveland Diocese, the diocesan website will direct you to contact Judy.
If you want to attend a Land Dyke compound ( http://www.lesbian.com/landdykes/landdykes_intro.html ) at the Egg Moon Farm, you can simply call the same Judy.
Judy describes the Egg Moon Farm as follows on her homepage: http://my.en.com/~judb/ (also note the futrechurch link on her website) :
I am very involved in my community and a participate in just about every kind of group imaginable. Kimbilio Farm and the womyn's land collective, Egg Moon Farm are my favorite places and where I hang out with my favorite womyn. Egg Moon Farm has been a real adventure, moving from a funky cow pasture infested with poison ivy and thorn bushes to a comfy campground within a few years . This a testament to the hard working and dedicated womyn who believe that the ideal of community without hierarchy is possible. It has been great fun creating this place, and it even has a cozy camping cabin. I was deeply touched when a good friend made a sign for a particular corner of the collective was named for me. Camp Jud' was my first step into transforming some uninviting outdoor space into a place where we could cook food, enjoy meals and sit under the protection of a tarp to tell stories, share our lives and discuss the state of our universe. Even though we now have a first class picnic pavilion and kitchen with all the amenities, the sign remains and Camp Jud' is still a place for wimmin to gather for any kind of chores and great conversation.
The logo looks like a red flying demon.
How appropriate.
You know, Diago, I'm wondering if they put the Catechism links and the somewhat vague wording on their website to fool people like me whose first instinct is to assume the best (i.e. "the Church wouldn't sanction a gay organization advocating something which is obviously in direct opposition to the Church's teachings. This must be an outreach program to counsel people who struggle with this and want to live according to the Church's teachings.") You see what I mean? Maybe that's why they get away with this. They've infested themselves within the Church pretending to be something innocuous. What are your thoughts on this?
Grow up, morons! Enforcing doctrine is part of a pastor and shepherd's job. He does you no favours by letting you wander off into error.
R1 Alert!
(Denny Crane: "Sometimes you can only look for answers from God and failing that... and Fox News".)
I'm ignorant. What is an R1 alert?
I appreciate the info... Alarmingly, no one else I talk to has access to the date for The End of the World.
You people are abominations. How any Catholic Church could have them in it without being desecrated is beyond me.
My goodness, aren't you the optimist! LOL! Did someone forget to take their prozac this morning?
Ditto that question!
How do YOU know who Mahoney voted for?
Just kidding... :)
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