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Mom, 5-year-old girl in video fires lawyer, moving out of state
St. Petersburg Times ^ | April 26, 2005 | THOMAS C. TOBIN

Posted on 04/26/2005 5:02:47 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife

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To: Cincinatus' Wife
That little girl is larger than the average 5-yr-old, and was climbing on the table taking swings at the teacher.

Maybe the teacher ought to sue the child for assault. Hey, she's got as much a case as the mother does against the school.

If you can sue a kid for downloading a song from the Internet, why not?

161 posted on 04/26/2005 6:48:23 AM PDT by Mamzelle
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To: SampleMan

And then she would have gotten spanked by Dad again at home.

Wait, where is Dad?


162 posted on 04/26/2005 6:51:42 AM PDT by agrace (All I have seen teaches me to trust the Creator for all I have not seen. - Ralph Waldo Emerson)
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To: Archie Bunker on steroids
I would say our school system is full of wacked out educators who don't know how to deal with a 5 year old who needs a nap.

The teachers' hands are tied.

Under today's circumstances, the best answer (IMHO) is a rubber room where out of control brats can be incarcerated until a parent claims them.

163 posted on 04/26/2005 6:53:43 AM PDT by iconoclast (Conservative, not partisan.)
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To: Mamzelle

As soon as the kid broke something or took a swing at somebody, all bets were off.

Are we so brain dead that we think a kid having an aspirin tablet is some horrible crime, but if a kid takes a belt at a teacher or another student, that's OK?


164 posted on 04/26/2005 6:54:18 AM PDT by djf
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To: Guenevere

... I am not maligning anyone because race, studies show that the white population is shrinking due to a surge in immigration and population growth in minorities. ... its not negative or positive it just is...


165 posted on 04/26/2005 6:54:30 AM PDT by brwnsuga (Proud, Black, Conservative!)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

This child has some serious problems.


166 posted on 04/26/2005 6:54:34 AM PDT by kassie ("It's the soldier who allows freedom of speech, not the reporter..")
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To: NCLaw441

Again:

A thing is what it is, not what it is called.


167 posted on 04/26/2005 6:55:37 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Motherbear

Yes, the child does have something wrong with her. It's called "her mother."


168 posted on 04/26/2005 6:55:41 AM PDT by sageb1
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To: Mad Dawg

You are absolutely correct, she was playing the situation and quieted down when she saw the police, BUT she was not combative with them. Their immediate goal was acheived by calling the police, the next step was unnecessary and criminialized a five year old who is not the one responsible for her actions, YET. I am betting this has been an ongoing problem and because they were not allowed to touch her, the school has probably told the mother that the next time it happens they would call the police. Also, the reason for the video cameras, to provide evidence because the mother was a threat.


169 posted on 04/26/2005 6:56:49 AM PDT by Toespi
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Orpah is an Old Testament name (Ruth's sister-in-law). Oprah's mother misspelled it when Oprah was born. That's the story that Oprah herself has told.

I once knew a child named Placenta. Honest. Her mother thought it sounded good.

The lesson here regarding names like Tiger and Condoleeza and Oprah is that excellence can overcome obstacles.

Wise parents don't generally name their kids Adolph or Elvis or Dracula or Delilah. Saddling a little kid with a burden is a shame.


170 posted on 04/26/2005 6:57:17 AM PDT by Jedidah
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To: NCLaw441
And names shouldn't create obstacles to success, but you think my former student (I used to teach high school) John Dick didn't have problems in life, you are kidding yourself.

Back in the Thirties, my grandmother told a salesman, named Mr. Shitz (not sure of the spelling) to change his name.

171 posted on 04/26/2005 6:58:47 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: mollynme

I was wondering the same thing. I would think the video belonged to the school.


172 posted on 04/26/2005 7:00:21 AM PDT by katykelly
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To: Jedidah

A doctor told of a child named female because that's what the mother saw on the birth certificate.

So much boils down to education.


173 posted on 04/26/2005 7:00:27 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: NCLaw441

"Do you think Oprah's name helped her?"

I don't know if it could help her. Oprah Winfrey has become part of this entire problem. She has turned a nation of women inward - finding the "goddess" within has become more important to women than raising children properly.


174 posted on 04/26/2005 7:01:34 AM PDT by sageb1
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

We agree. A person is what he/she is, despite his/her name. That doesn't mean that the same person would have the same level of success no matter what that name is.


175 posted on 04/26/2005 7:02:32 AM PDT by NCLaw441
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

I'm just getting up to speed on the story. I wonder if the mother has had any run ins with the law in the past.


177 posted on 04/26/2005 7:05:55 AM PDT by tubebender (We child proofed our house but they still get in...)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

I didn't watch the whole video, but I can say that the teacher is lying when she says that the video was made to help her improve her teaching methods. This video was made to document the child's behavior and the teacher's position that the child did not belong in a regular classroom. The child has a problem.


178 posted on 04/26/2005 7:06:03 AM PDT by Eva
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To: LibSnubber

Mr. Spanky, huh? lol I was trying to remember if I ever spanked any of my 4. To be honest, they really didn't need to be spanked. But I do have a vague recollection of using my hand on someone's bottom once. That brings up another point. I have never been adverse to spanking, but I think using a switch or a belt is not the best way. If you wallop a kid's behind once or twice with your hand, it hurts your hand. That is a good thing.


180 posted on 04/26/2005 7:08:42 AM PDT by sageb1
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