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Presidential panel says taxpayers get too many breaks
Waterbury Republican-American ^ | April 25, 2005 | Associated Press

Posted on 04/25/2005 12:23:17 PM PDT by Graybeard58

WASHINGTON -- As taxpayers recover from finishing their annual filing chores, a presidential commission studying the tax laws has reached the conclusion that there are just too many deductions and credits.

To help taxpayers deal with college costs there are -- depending on which applies to a particular individual -- two different kinds of tax credits, a deduction for student loan interest and special tax-advantaged savings plans. Special urban and rural tax zones encourage investment and job creation. Dozens of other tax benefits help families raise children and save for retirement, encourage adoption, nudge drivers toward hybrid cars and push businesses to invest in new equipment.

"We have lost sight of the fact that the fundamental purpose of our tax system is to raise revenues to fund government," according to President Bush's Advisory Panel on Federal Tax Reform.

The commission's chairman, former Florida Sen. Connie Mack, said its nine members have been surprised at the number of tax deductions and credits.

"It wasn't until we really had the opportunity to listen to so many different people talk about so many different aspects of the code that it really sunk in about how much and how often the code is being used these days to either create incentives or disincentives for either investment or behavior," Mack said in an interview with The Associated Press.

The White House budget office ranks the cost of a deduction for businesses that provide health insurance to employees as the top tax break, worth $126 billion next year. Also high on the list are the popular mortgage interest deduction, a capital gains break for home sales, a deduction for charitable contributions and the child tax credit.

The list includes many tiny tax breaks. Among them are ones that encourage biodiesel fuel, help the elderly and disabled, make interest on educational bonds tax-free and allow teachers to deduct the cost of school supplies.

The problem comes when taxpayers try to decipher the rules that govern those credits and deductions. The tax breaks often overlap and typically come with pages of instructions and qualifications.

"It was clearly stated that the level of complication has become so great that in many cases it ends up deterring the activity that you're trying to encourage," Mack said.

Bush has asked the panel to preserve tax breaks that promote homeownership and charitable giving.

Tax breaks started proliferating in the 1990s for two reasons, said Eugene Steuerle, a former Treasury Department official and co-director of the Urban-Brookings Tax Policy Center.

"There's always been this political reward for claiming to do something new rather than merely cleaning up or slightly expanding something that already exists," Steuerle said.

Lawmakers want to brand their own education tax breaks, for example, which means there are multiple deductions, credits and special savings accounts instead of one tax break everyone can use.

Tax breaks also provide benefits without creating a government spending program. But the proliferation of tax breaks end up costing the public because they mean lawmakers cannot lower income tax rates, Steuerle said.

"They make it look like smaller government, when in fact it's actually bigger government," he said.

The tax breaks amount to billions of dollars.

Tax benefits that provide indirect subsidies to homeowners add up to more than the entire budget of the Housing and Urban Development Department.

The earned income tax credit for low wage workers is bigger than any welfare program, including food stamps.

The tax break for businesses that provide health insurance is growing faster than almost all other domestic programs.

Some critics say no one tracks the tax breaks to find out if they succeed in promoting the behavior lawmakers want to encourage. Limitations often mean that some breaks are not available to wealthier taxpayers or poorer ones.

"It is worth noting that the deductions are of little or no benefit to the 40 percent of taxpayers who don't owe taxes," Fred Goldberg Jr., a former Internal Revenue Service commissioner, told the presidential panel.

Would taxpayers give up some of those deductions and credits to make the whole system simpler? Not likely.

"Anytime you've got a benefit, wherever it happens to be, whether it's spending or taxes, people don't want to give them up," Mack said.

This summer, the panel plans to recommend ways to make the tax laws simpler and fairer.

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On the Net:

President's Advisory Panel on Federal Tax Reform: www.taxreformpanel.gov


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The earned income tax credit for low wage workers is bigger than any welfare program, including food stamps.

The earned income tax credit is my favorite government redistribution of wealth plan to hate. Socialism at its finest and if I am not mistaken it was signed into law by President Nixon.

1 posted on 04/25/2005 12:23:20 PM PDT by Graybeard58
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To: Graybeard58

Stop the with holding of taxes on each pay check, make everyone pay what they "owe" once a year. That will make something happen.


2 posted on 04/25/2005 12:27:58 PM PDT by hadaclueonce (shoot low, they are riding Shetlands.....)
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To: Graybeard58

I am tired of all the stupid little tax games. Let's have a flat rate.


3 posted on 04/25/2005 12:28:59 PM PDT by ambrose (....)
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To: hadaclueonce

Yeah that'll put US all in jail!~}


4 posted on 04/25/2005 12:30:09 PM PDT by funkywbr
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To: Graybeard58

"It is worth noting that the deductions are of little or no benefit to the 40 percent of taxpayers who don't owe taxes," Fred Goldberg Jr., a former Internal Revenue Service commissioner, told the presidential panel.

Duh !!! No Sh** Shurlock


5 posted on 04/25/2005 12:49:33 PM PDT by Forrestfire ("To educate a man in mind and not in morals is to educate a menace to society." Theodore Roosevelt)
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To: hadaclueonce
At least then I could invest that $17k in taxes and make some interest off it before having to pay it in.

Still, I'd prefer to end the income tax altogether, get rid of all the loopholes, and just implement an NRST.

6 posted on 04/25/2005 12:56:13 PM PDT by Dead Corpse (Never underestimate the will of the downtrodden to lie flatter.)
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To: Forrestfire
"It is worth noting that the deductions are of little or no benefit to the 40 percent of taxpayers who don't owe taxes," Fred Goldberg Jr., a former Internal Revenue Service commissioner, told the presidential panel.

That's like saying "paychecks are of little or no benefit to the 40 percent of people who don't have jobs."

7 posted on 04/25/2005 1:00:48 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Drug prohibition laws help fund terrorism. DEA agents will not keep your children safe from drugs.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Or "Manufacturer rebates are of no use to the 40% of people who don't buy computers."


8 posted on 04/25/2005 1:06:18 PM PDT by Freemyland
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To: Freemyland
Or "Manufacturer rebates are of no use to the 40% of people who don't buy computers."

The implication of the original statement was that people who claim deductions (or "tax breaks for the rich" as socialists like to call them) are selfish.

That really frosts me.

I'd like to punch that @$$-O in the nose.

9 posted on 04/25/2005 1:09:38 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Drug prohibition laws help fund terrorism. DEA agents will not keep your children safe from drugs.)
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To: Graybeard58

What really burns me, is that the government demands taxes by April 15 but they will take months or even years to pay what they owe. I won't deal with them unless they pay up front anymore... not worth the hassle.

Not to mention that I'm tired of paying taxes to a Government bent on destroying my rights. They haven't earned the right to demand my hard earned money... they are nothing but an extortion racket.

Mike


10 posted on 04/25/2005 1:13:16 PM PDT by BCR #226
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To: funkywbr; hadaclueonce

If the citizens of this country once had to write that check they would march on Washington with pitchforks. Most people do not know what they made last year, they only count their take home pay. Then they are happy with a refund, all that refund is is a no interest short term loan you give Uncle Sam.


11 posted on 04/25/2005 1:14:08 PM PDT by TXBSAFH (Never underestimate the power of human stupidity--Robert Heinlein)
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To: Graybeard58
The earned income tax credit is my favorite government redistribution of wealth plan to hate.

Yep, mine too. It only passed after they stopped calling it a negative income tax. Something about "earned" really makes it sound spiffy.
12 posted on 04/25/2005 1:25:50 PM PDT by andyk
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To: TXBSAFH

My goal on April 15 is to owe Uncle Sam $1 less than the amount over which I would have to pay a penalty.


13 posted on 04/25/2005 1:29:28 PM PDT by dfwgator (Minutemen: Just doing the jobs that American politicians won't do.)
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To: hadaclueonce
Stop the with holding of taxes on each pay check, make everyone pay what they "owe" once a year

Well, that pretty much sums it up. What a scam withholding has been.
14 posted on 04/25/2005 1:32:38 PM PDT by andyk
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To: dfwgator

Exactly, you keep it. If nothing else put it in a saving account and make a little interest.


15 posted on 04/25/2005 1:32:48 PM PDT by TXBSAFH (Never underestimate the power of human stupidity--Robert Heinlein)
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To: TXBSAFH

I had to explain taxes that are withheld to my 15 year old who's going to start working this summer. He couldn't believe that 1/3 of his weekly paycheck is going to be taken out before it even gets to him! We had a lively discussion about WHERE those taxes go too!


16 posted on 04/25/2005 1:35:23 PM PDT by princess leah (\)
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To: ambrose

It part of the game -- if it isn't obvious when you pay taxes, then are you likely to complain?


17 posted on 04/25/2005 1:39:00 PM PDT by dhs12345
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To: princess leah

I know that discussion all to well. Wait until you show him about all the hidden taxes, such as gas tax charged in the price. You and I pay on average 1/2 of our money in taxes. State, federal and local.


18 posted on 04/25/2005 1:40:30 PM PDT by TXBSAFH (Never underestimate the power of human stupidity--Robert Heinlein)
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To: princess leah

You should give him the complete list -- sales taxes, gas tax (when he starts driving), utilities taxes, and on and on.....


19 posted on 04/25/2005 1:42:13 PM PDT by dhs12345
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To: BCR #226

Right, Mike! We'll all stop paying taxes to the gov. They don't deserve it.

Then, Mike, we'll put you in charge to raise money to have a military, repair and build roads, deliver mail, etc., etc.

What the hell, look at all the money I'll have to keep.


20 posted on 04/25/2005 1:42:23 PM PDT by GOPologist
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