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Microsoft expected to ignite 64-bit computing
Yahoo, USA today ^
| 4/25/05
| Byron Acohido and Michelle Kessler, USA TODAY
Posted on 04/25/2005 7:47:12 AM PDT by 1FASTGLOCK45
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There was a thread a while back, mentioning this precise thing. A pc running @64bits (amd's new chips) don't run as efficient or well because the software wasn't designed yet. Some KNOW IT ALL on Freerepublic told me otherwise, insisting they were right. Well, here it is, Read the article, you KNOW it All, and KISS MY AZZ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! This post is dedicated to you "Know it alls". -1fastglock45
To: 1FASTGLOCK45
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posted on
04/25/2005 7:49:06 AM PDT
by
general_re
("Frantic orthodoxy is never rooted in faith, but in doubt." - Reinhold Niebuhr)
To: 1FASTGLOCK45
I have a 64 bit processor and a beta 64 bit OS but not software.
So I still use the 32 bit stuff.
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posted on
04/25/2005 7:51:48 AM PDT
by
dts32041
(Two words that shouldn't be used in the same sentence Grizzly bear and violate.)
To: general_re
Here is the deal :
"first desktop version of Windows to support 64-bit processing chips, which can access bigger chunks of memory and move data around faster than 32-bit chips in wide use on PCs since the 1980s."
--in English: A 64 bit AMD chip running version of 32bit windows is not fully taking advantage of the 64Bits. This is why microsoft is rewriting Windows to take advantage of the new AMD 64 bit chips.
Some people were under the impression that just because you have a 64bit processor running regular old windows, you were getting full performance.
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posted on
04/25/2005 7:52:36 AM PDT
by
1FASTGLOCK45
(FreeRepublic: More fun than watching Dem'Rats drown like Turkeys in the rain! ! !)
To: 1FASTGLOCK45
64 bit machines can address 18 million tera-words, or 147 million terabytes.
(steely)
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posted on
04/25/2005 7:52:57 AM PDT
by
Steely Tom
(Fortunately, the Bill of Rights doesn't include the word 'is'.)
To: 1FASTGLOCK45
the first 64-bit Windows desktop operating system, Windows XP Pro What a load of crap.
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posted on
04/25/2005 7:53:30 AM PDT
by
Izzy Dunne
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To: Izzy Dunne
Izzy Dunne wrote:
the first 64-bit Windows desktop operating system, Windows XP Pro
What a load of crap.
Yea must be a screw up by the editorial. Our trusty news.
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posted on
04/25/2005 7:55:19 AM PDT
by
1FASTGLOCK45
(FreeRepublic: More fun than watching Dem'Rats drown like Turkeys in the rain! ! !)
To: 1FASTGLOCK45
What does "full performance" mean? 64-bit Office is not inherently faster than 32-bit Office, all else being equal.
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posted on
04/25/2005 7:55:41 AM PDT
by
general_re
("Frantic orthodoxy is never rooted in faith, but in doubt." - Reinhold Niebuhr)
To: 1FASTGLOCK45
Microsoft is actually the LAST mainstream provider of operating systems to hit 64bits.
Apple's 10.3 had some 64-bitness and Tiger has more of the system running in 64bit mode.
Sun's Solaris OS has been 64bit for many years and runs in 64bit mode on Opterons.
Linux has been 64bit for many years and runs in 64bit mode on Opterons as well.
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posted on
04/25/2005 7:56:23 AM PDT
by
ikka
To: 1FASTGLOCK45
On second thought, they might phaze out the Current Win XP Pro (32bit)and the new 64bit will retain the current name (win Xp Pro).
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posted on
04/25/2005 7:56:35 AM PDT
by
1FASTGLOCK45
(FreeRepublic: More fun than watching Dem'Rats drown like Turkeys in the rain! ! !)
To: general_re
general_re wrote:
What does "full performance" mean? 64-bit Office is not inherently faster than 32-bit Office, all else being equal.
--Here is what they say: "64-bit processing chips, which can access bigger chunks of memory and move data around faster than 32-bit chips"
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posted on
04/25/2005 7:58:13 AM PDT
by
1FASTGLOCK45
(FreeRepublic: More fun than watching Dem'Rats drown like Turkeys in the rain! ! !)
To: Izzy Dunne
Do you bother reading the whole article or do you just see MS and immediately say it's crap?
Well Since you don't want to educate yourself and this will inevitably turn into a MAC vs MS waste of FR server space I'll help you out a bit.
They are announcing the 64 bit version of XP at the conference, but it's not out yet.
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posted on
04/25/2005 7:58:42 AM PDT
by
tfecw
(Vote Democrat, It's easier than working)
To: ikka
Microsoft is actually the LAST mainstream provider of operating systems to hit 64bits. Not really - they had 64-bit versions of XP back in 2001.
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posted on
04/25/2005 7:58:53 AM PDT
by
general_re
("Frantic orthodoxy is never rooted in faith, but in doubt." - Reinhold Niebuhr)
To: general_re
It means Word documents can get even bigger. ;)
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posted on
04/25/2005 7:59:08 AM PDT
by
Liberal Classic
(No better friend, no worse enemy. Semper Fi.)
To: 1FASTGLOCK45
On second thought, they might phaze out the Current Win XP Pro (32bit)and the new 64bit will retain the current name (win Xp Pro). "Hi, support? Yeah, I'm having trouble with my OS."
"What Operating System are you running?"
"Win XP Pro."
"Would that be Win XP Pro? or Win XP Pro?"
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posted on
04/25/2005 8:01:43 AM PDT
by
ClearCase_guy
(The fourth estate is a fifth column.)
To: tfecw
They are announcing the 64 bit version of XP at the conference, but it's not out yet. Hmmm. Thanks for your "help".
Maybe you can also explain why they said:
the first 64-bit Windows desktop operating system, Windows XP Pro, is available.
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posted on
04/25/2005 8:01:57 AM PDT
by
Izzy Dunne
(Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
To: dts32041
Still, software makers so far haven't been willing to take on the costly task of converting popular applications to 64-bit until there is demand. While 64-bit chips have been available from AMD and Intel, computer makers haven't moved to develop many 64-bit PCs because there was no desktop operating system to run them.This is going to be news to the folks, like a friend of mine sitting in the next room, who is running an AMD 64-bit laptop with 64-bit LINUX installed and running recompiled LINUX open source applications in 64 bit mode...
Microsoft is getting further and further behind the open source community.
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posted on
04/25/2005 8:03:26 AM PDT
by
AFPhys
((.Praying for President Bush, our troops, their families, and all my American neighbors..))
To: ClearCase_guy
ClearCase_guy wrote:
On second thought, they might phaze out the Current Win XP Pro (32bit)and the new 64bit will retain the current name (win Xp Pro).
"Hi, support? Yeah, I'm having trouble with my OS."
"What Operating System are you running?"
"Win XP Pro."
"Would that be Win XP Pro? or Win XP Pro?"
--> Well, Support, the "old" WInXPPro used to rest on your tonsils, the "new" xp Pro sits in the back of your throat!
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posted on
04/25/2005 8:04:06 AM PDT
by
1FASTGLOCK45
(FreeRepublic: More fun than watching Dem'Rats drown like Turkeys in the rain! ! !)
To: 1FASTGLOCK45
Yeah, but they're full of it. The only way it's faster is if your software needs to shove large ints/floats around, in which case the compiler no longer have to dumb it down. Most software that you're likely to use isn't like that. You're not going to see a boost in Office performance, for example, unless you're doing some fairly wacky stuff in Excel. The main benefit most people will see will come from the larger addressable memory space.
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posted on
04/25/2005 8:05:38 AM PDT
by
general_re
("Frantic orthodoxy is never rooted in faith, but in doubt." - Reinhold Niebuhr)
To: general_re
Games. Games drive much of the PC industry.
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posted on
04/25/2005 8:07:20 AM PDT
by
ClearCase_guy
(The fourth estate is a fifth column.)
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