Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Diaperless Babies Seen As Earth-Friendly Solution (Enviro-wacko alert)
CNSNews.com ^ | 4/22/05 | Marc Morano

Posted on 04/25/2005 7:28:34 AM PDT by jalisco555

(CNSNews.com) - As environmentalists celebrate the 34th annual Earth Day, some in the green movement are now advocating "diaper-free" babies to help save the planet.

Citing concerns about plastic disposable diapers clogging landfills and the amount of washing and detergents that cloth diapers require, many environmentalists are taking a page from tribal cultures and seeking to eliminate the use of the baby diapers altogether.

The green movement is now promoting diaperless babies as a "retro, cutting-edge, environmentally friendly scheme" to mothers throughout the industrialized world.

The green movement already has declared war on the modern flush toilet, declaring it an "environmental disaster," and has instead pushed waterless "dry" toilets as an earth-friendly solution.

Former Vice President Al Gore joined the board of a waterless urinal company late last year to further the dry toilet cause and to help avert what many environmentalists believe is a looming international water crisis.

"There is a way to have a baby and NOT use diapers," says one website advocating diaperless babies. Parents are urged to get in tune with their infant's body signals and hold babies over toilets, buckets and shrubbery or any other convenient receptacle when nature calls.

One advocate suggests bringing a "tight-lidded bucket" along to serve as a waste receptacle when mothers take their babies out in public.

'Primitive worship'

But Robert Bidinotto, publisher of ecoNOT.com and a critic of environmentalists, dismisses such notions as "primitive-worship."

"Incredibly, some environmentalists actually prefer that the foul messes we normally capture in diapers and landfills, spill instead onto our linoleum, carpets, and even our children," Bidinotto told CNSNews.com.

Noting many greens' opposition to flush toilets and now baby diapers, Bidinotto said environmentalists' have a "strange affinity for bodily wastes," and he believes they have become "obsessed with toilet issues."

'Be the first in your neighborhood'

Umbra Fisk, advice columnist for Grist Magazine , a major environmental e-publication, has joined the diaperless baby effort.

Responding to a reader's question in the Feb. 12 issue of Grist Magazine about how to handle baby waste in an Earth-friendly manner, Fisk fully endorses the diaper-free movement as a "retro cutting-edge environmentally friendly scheme." Fisk urges parents to "be the first in your neighborhood" to go diaper free.

"People around the world who have no access to diapers manage to raise children, and a small group of parents in diaper-rich countries have decided to follow their lead. Around here, it's called 'elimination communication' or 'diaper-free,'" Fisk wrote.

Fisk argues that changing times mean parents no longer have to change diapers.

"The concept is logical and simple: Infants give recognizable signs of imminent peeing and pooping; it's possible to learn your infant's signs; infant pee isn't frightening; and if you train your kid to ignore their outputs, you'll just have to go back and retrain them when traditional potty-training time arrives," Fisk explained.

Another diaperless baby advocate, who identifies herself as Natec, wrote a how-to manual for prospective mothers of diaperless babies titled, "Elimination Timing: The Solution to the Dirty Diapers War." The manual, which used fictionalized names and characters, describes Natec's motivation to go diaper-free after the birth of her son.

"When David was born, I started to think about the kind of world I was making for him to grow up in. The thought of garbage spewing and sprawling landfills filled me with horror. And right along with this horror were those little mother's helpers, disposable diapers...rotting, but never really going away in all their plastic glory," Natec wrote.

Natec maintains that plastic diapers "can take 500 years to decompose." Natec is not impressed with so-called "biodegradable" diapers, because they "may contain more plastic to compensate for the weakness of their materials."

Although green advocates estimate that diapers account for only between 0.5 to 1.8 percent of landfill space, they nevertheless consider that troubling.

"One percent of billions of tons is worth worrying about. If we don't think about how to address that one percent, which one percent will we address?" asked Richard Dennison, a senior scientist with the Environmental Defense group, as quoted in Natec's how-to manual.

'Evil empire of Western parenting'

Concerns about landfills are not the only reason some parents are going diaperless.

Scott Noelle, editor of the Continuum Concept website and a father, explained why he eventually stopped using diapers on his infant daughter Olivia, in a web essay titled "Going Diaperless."

"In my mind, diapers became the symbol of the Evil Empire of Western Parenting in which babies must suffer to accommodate the needs of their parents' broken-continuum culture: a controlled, sterile, odorless, wall-to-wall carpeted fortress in which to live with the illusion of dominion over nature," wrote Noelle, on the website livingharmony.com.

Despite his concerns, Noelle continued to use diapers on his daughter, despite the fact that he "felt like a monster and a fraud."

Noelle finally chose to go diaperless and looked to traditional cultures for inspiration. "How I longed for a simple, dirt-floored, baby-friendly hut like that of a Yequana family," he wrote.

Natec agrees with Noelle that modern society has a lot to learn from the traditional ways of life.

"[M]any of us have not, until recent years, given credit to the mothering skills of more Earth-centered, i.e. 'primitive" cultures,' she wrote in her how-to manual.

"When you think about it, there have been millions of years of human beings and only a few thousand years with any references to diapers," she added.

But Bidinotto of ecoNOT.com bristles at what he considers the glorification of a "primitive" way of life by diaperless baby advocates.

"These people have no idea what primitive life is really like. Their preferred alternative to today's 'controlled, sterile, odorless' environment is a world of filth and disease, where countless millions died in plagues and epidemics," Bidinotto explained.

Shopping with a diaperless baby

Ingrid Bauer, author of the book "Diaper Free: The Gentle Wisdom of Natural Infant Hygiene," writes on her website natural-wisdom.com that the key for parents interested in going au natural is parent-infant communication.

"Observation and close bonding interaction help the parent to understand the baby's signals, body language and timing rhythms," Bauer writes in the frequently asked questions section of her website

"Some common signals that indicate a need to pee in a young infant are: squirming, "fussing," tensing the face, frowning or having a look of "inner concentration," she wrote.

"When the baby has to go, the parent holds him or her in a comfortable position over an appropriate toilet place and makes a cueing sound (perhaps a gentle "sss")."

What's the parent of a diaperless baby to do when out shopping? Bauer offers this solution.

"These parents may rely on using public bathrooms, or bring along a container such as a tight -lidded bucket," Bauer wrote.

Bauer calls freedom from diapers "responsive infant-care."

"This gentle and ancient practice is the most common way of caring for a baby's hygiene needs in the non-Western world," she writes.

Bidinotto rejects any notion that industrialized nations should mimic the traditional cultures.

"The only thing that we moderns have to learn from primitive cultures is what they themselves learned. They learned that life is much better with modern conveniences, such as diapers. And in fact, most primitive peoples can't wait to get and use such conveniences," Bidinotto explained.

"But now environmentalists want to sentence millions to the filth and drudgery that our ancestors were so eager to escape," he added.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: baby; bigpileopoop; diaper; earthday; environment; envirowacko; green; greens; itsmellsbadinhere; pagingalgore; pee; shiteverywhere
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-20 ... 41-6061-8081-100 ... 201-215 next last
To: jalisco555

"Parents are urged to get in tune with their infant's body signals and hold babies over toilets, buckets and shrubbery or any other convenient receptacle when nature calls."

Well, we just need to plant more shrubbery in and outside the house. That'll make your greens greener! What a bunch of idiots. We got 2 grandsons right now in the diaper to training period. I can't imagine.


61 posted on 04/25/2005 7:50:04 AM PDT by caver
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: beaversmom

One lady claimed her daughter was potty trained at 3 months.

Yes this can be done. We raised 7 children the usual way but were finally convinced to try infant potty training with our eighth. Within 2 weeks our 3 month old daughter was virtually accident free (once or twice per week) and soon stayed dry through the night. We kept cloth panties on her so there wasn't a big mess initially. I had always thought that it was the parents who were trained but when a 5 month baby stays dry through the night and then lets it fly on signal over the commode, I'm convinced.


62 posted on 04/25/2005 7:50:21 AM PDT by freedomfiter2
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 27 | View Replies]

To: jalisco555

I wonder if their stoopid theory also covers older people with Depends????


63 posted on 04/25/2005 7:50:40 AM PDT by lilmsdangrus (hard work musta hurt somebody, somewhere....)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: The_Victor

And what are you supposed to do just stand there watching the baby all day looking for signs of an impending poop? Also what do you do with the bucket with the poop in it? Why you wash it out of course. So wheres the water savings. I guess we could go back to the days of merry old England when the Shite was thrown out into the streets and piled high on every corner.


64 posted on 04/25/2005 7:51:41 AM PDT by tom paine 2
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 12 | View Replies]

To: Professional Engineer

I would like to see them try getting a daycare worker to go along with it! There is no way it would pass muster with the health department.


65 posted on 04/25/2005 7:52:31 AM PDT by Peanut Gallery
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 13 | View Replies]

To: cyclotic
"I got a concept for these idiots...here it comes...cloth diapers. "

Oh Noooooo!

Water is a treasured resource. . .and detergent damages the ecological balance of our rivers/streams and oceans. . .and non-detergent detergent simply overburden those resources. . .and 'washing diapers' still require water/electricity. . .and create profits for greedy corporate interests.

No. . .diaperless is the only answer; just ask the young Mothers of any Hutu tribe in Africa. . .

66 posted on 04/25/2005 7:52:47 AM PDT by cricket (Just say - NO U.N.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 40 | View Replies]

To: bert
"The absence of diapers is probably acceptable in semitropic and tropic third world where the practice is common,. . ."

Do not think it is the weather, exclusively. . .that dictates the 'fresh air' approach. . .

67 posted on 04/25/2005 7:55:34 AM PDT by cricket (Just say - NO U.N.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 50 | View Replies]

To: bert
"The absence of diapers is probably acceptable in semitropic and tropic third world where the practice is common,. . ."

Do not think it is the weather, exclusively. . .that dictates the 'fresh air' approach. . .

68 posted on 04/25/2005 7:55:36 AM PDT by cricket (Just say - NO U.N.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 50 | View Replies]

To: cyclotic
I got a concept for these idiots...here it comes...cloth diapers.

Yup, and if they are really concerned about the detergents, they can choose from a whole range of "organic" soaps now available. If they are concerned about the energy costs of doing laundry, they can do it by hand.

69 posted on 04/25/2005 7:55:49 AM PDT by Paradox ("It is well that war is so terrible, lest we grow too fond of it."- Robert E. Lee)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 40 | View Replies]

To: jalisco555

Okay I found it at the baby site--it's called practicing elimination communication with your child. I guess the article does mention that term.


70 posted on 04/25/2005 7:55:53 AM PDT by beaversmom
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: DugwayDuke
Now, as to this article. Let's see, the enviro-nazis want us all to ride public transportation along with a bunch of diaperless babies?

Yes, while we enjoy watching them poop into buckets.

71 posted on 04/25/2005 7:56:50 AM PDT by jalisco555 ("Dogs look up to us, cats look down on us and pigs treat us as equals" Winston Churchill)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 48 | View Replies]

To: jalisco555

My wife and I are expecting twin girls this summer. We already have 2500 diaper stockpiled. And as for this suggestion, NO WAY IN HECK!


72 posted on 04/25/2005 7:56:57 AM PDT by TXBSAFH (Never underestimate the power of human stupidity--Robert Heinlein)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: jalisco555
We should learn from the Chinese, who apparently know all about how to raise kids without diapers . . .

I'm looking to patent a version of this here in the U.S. -- I'll call it the "@ss-Hole" brand of children's clothing.

I've got plans for an adult version, too.

73 posted on 04/25/2005 7:58:01 AM PDT by Alberta's Child (I ain't got a dime, but what I got is mine. I ain't rich, but lord I'm free.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: TXBSAFH
We already have 2500 diaper stockpiled.

HOLY CRAP!

74 posted on 04/25/2005 7:59:21 AM PDT by beaversmom
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 72 | View Replies]

To: Alberta's Child

Geez...I wonder why all the influenza viruses originate in Asia? /sarc


75 posted on 04/25/2005 8:00:33 AM PDT by mplsconservative
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 73 | View Replies]

To: beaversmom

The average estimated diaper consumption for a set of health twins is approximately 700 a month. We got them on sell.


76 posted on 04/25/2005 8:00:42 AM PDT by TXBSAFH (Never underestimate the power of human stupidity--Robert Heinlein)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 74 | View Replies]

To: TXBSAFH
My wife and I are expecting twin girls this summer. We already have 2500 diaper stockpiled.

Hope they're in different sizes. My first son was in size-large Pampers at age 4 months. What an eater!

77 posted on 04/25/2005 8:01:19 AM PDT by jalisco555 ("Dogs look up to us, cats look down on us and pigs treat us as equals" Winston Churchill)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 72 | View Replies]

To: ClearCase_guy

As Triumph would say, "This is a stupid idea, for me to poop on!"

Maybe the kids can share the cat's litter box.

Until they ban kitty litter...


78 posted on 04/25/2005 8:01:45 AM PDT by LibFreeOrDie (L'chaim!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 15 | View Replies]

To: jalisco555

Yes we have premie, size 1 2 and 3.


79 posted on 04/25/2005 8:02:11 AM PDT by TXBSAFH (Never underestimate the power of human stupidity--Robert Heinlein)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 77 | View Replies]

To: jalisco555

I'd go for it only if you could teach the infants to recognize one of these whackos, and then teach him/her how to throw accurately.


80 posted on 04/25/2005 8:02:18 AM PDT by PzLdr ("The Emperor is not as forgiving as I am" - Darth Vader)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-20 ... 41-6061-8081-100 ... 201-215 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson