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Iran plans to knock out U.S. with 1 nuclear bomb
JOSEPH FARAH'S G2 BULLETIN ^ | April 25, 2005 | Joseph Farah

Posted on 04/25/2005 6:19:49 AM PDT by DJ Taylor

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To: The Great RJ

And we can fire weapons from land, sea, and air - that pretty much covers everything!


21 posted on 04/25/2005 6:35:54 AM PDT by SusaninOhio
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To: Cyclops08
Wow. just ONE bomb could wipe us out?

From what I have read, it would cause temporary damage in a limited area. Much of our electronic infrastructure is shielded against EMP. Some years ago our power grid was damaged from a strong solar flare – steps were taken to help prevent a reoccurrence. Our military has long shielded its equipment.
While it would be a major inconvenience, and cost us money, it would hardly “destroy America's technical infrastructure, effectively neutralizing the world's lone superpower”.
22 posted on 04/25/2005 6:35:54 AM PDT by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink.)
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To: DJ Taylor
Why would they need a "remote control device" when all they need is a simple timer set to detonate when the missile has flown a set distance?

Why is this type of nuclear attack less likely to provoke a nuclear response?

They'd need to be pretty confident that their one and only device reliably and adequately cripples the USA. So far only the US media is sure of the physics behind EMP threats and the way they couple to hardware.

Assuming that everything goes well for the attackers, cell phones and cable boxes across the USA would go dead- and the guys in Cheyenne and at the silos and airfields and submarines would be getting Emergency Action Messages and turning keys and lighting afterburners. Aircraft carriers and their little flocks would be changing course.

On the upside the antiwar protesters would be prevented from organizing to get their message out urging moderation, diplomatic solutions, and restrained response, and the talking heads would be forced into silence.
23 posted on 04/25/2005 6:36:09 AM PDT by DBrow
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To: TommyDale
Yes, the military is QUITE aware of EMP, and started to take notice in the 70s and 80s when NEW MiGs were coming off the production line with vacuum tubes.

Some of the military infastructure and most of us civilians would be affected by a BIG EMP like this. But we'd fire a few missiles back at them, and that would be end of that.

24 posted on 04/25/2005 6:36:23 AM PDT by BP2
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To: DJ Taylor
The stunning report was first published over the weekend in Joseph Farah's G2 Bulletin

Oh. Never mind.

25 posted on 04/25/2005 6:36:23 AM PDT by r9etb
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To: The Great RJ
It must be made clear to both Iran and North Korea in no uncertain terms or diplomatic niceties that the use of nuclear weapons against the US will bring an immediate massive nuclear retaliation on their country.

It has been

26 posted on 04/25/2005 6:36:57 AM PDT by cpdiii (Oil Field Trash, Roughneck, Geologist, Pilot, Pharmacist, (OIL FIELD TRASH was fun))
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To: MichaelP
Most electronics are shielded these days.

Only military electronics has been hardened sufficiently for this. EMP causes secondary emissions inside shielded devices. BTW cell phones aren't shielded at all. This would be a great way to get these out of the hands of drivers.

27 posted on 04/25/2005 6:37:35 AM PDT by GingisK
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To: Brilliant

And – how far behind technologically they are. It might have worked 20 years ago.


28 posted on 04/25/2005 6:37:56 AM PDT by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink.)
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To: GingisK

Mutual Assured Destruction... Reagan believed in it and it worked.


29 posted on 04/25/2005 6:38:03 AM PDT by boofus
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To: MichaelP
Actually, most electronics these days IS NOT SHELIDED. In fact, what causes damage is the EMP itself. An electromagnetic pulse is just that. A massive pulse which induces massive current inside even electronics that is OFF, not plugged in. Generally the damage is caused inside MOSFET type transistors and integrated circuits.

Unless electronics (radios, computers) are unplugged and cases grounded (providing a "faraday cage" type protection) then even stuff just "sitting there on shelves" can be damaged during a massive emp.

A space detonated device has a "footprint" that can cover the US. This would preclude folks like Iran from doing this kind of damage, since they can't launch space vehicles. However, China, Russia and even to an extent, people like North Korea have limited space launch vehicle capabilities. Thus, if Iran cooperated with, say North Korea on a launch vehicle, they could conceivably launch a nuclear device capable of doing massive emp damage into space. We'd SEE it of course. Whether we could shoot it down or stop it before detonation remains to be seen at this point.

This threat is certainly MORE viable than some of you give it credit for being. However, MichaelIP has a point, the missile will probably NOT make it here. So, unless the scenario I've cited (putting it into orbit first) is accomplished, then the fact that the bomb can't get here will limit the damage to the region where the bomb goes off.
30 posted on 04/25/2005 6:38:37 AM PDT by Rick.Donaldson (Never Forget the Starvation of Terri Schiavo - Liberal Loonies murdered her.)
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To: joesnuffy
…will be in Muslim heaven with their 72 beautiful and eternally young virgins…

No, no, no! That is a bad translation. It is 72 Redneck Virginians.
31 posted on 04/25/2005 6:39:25 AM PDT by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink.)
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To: Blzbba

If it were true then when we did all those surface and even above surface tests in the US and Pacific we should have shut down the Country right? But wait-it didn't happen.

China-above surface tests.

Russia-above surface tests.

France-above surface tests in the Pacific.

While we all know what EMP is, and agree that a nuke over the US would be really bad, I think the writer of this article thinks we are stupid. He's another one selling us a "nuclear winter"- "Ozone hole" or what's the trendy slogan now? I forget. "Acid Rain" Oh-that's long gone. Ahhh yea, it's "Global Warming" now.

Red6


32 posted on 04/25/2005 6:41:13 AM PDT by Red6
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To: GingisK
"This would be a great way to get these (cell phones)out of the hands of drivers."

Not to worry, automobile electronic fuel injector systems are nor sheilded, so no one will be driving anyway.

33 posted on 04/25/2005 6:41:55 AM PDT by DJ Taylor (Once again our country is at war, and once again the Democrats have sided with our enemy.)
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To: DBrow
On the bright side -
the antiwar protesters would be prevented from organizing to get their message out urging moderation, diplomatic solutions, and restrained response, and the talking heads would be forced into silence.

34 posted on 04/25/2005 6:42:05 AM PDT by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink.)
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To: DJ Taylor

There's been enough talk going, it's time to act.


35 posted on 04/25/2005 6:42:30 AM PDT by HankReardon
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To: MichaelP

The DARPANET was created for this and most peripheral devices are "Tempest" versions to protect against this.


36 posted on 04/25/2005 6:47:35 AM PDT by massgopguy (massgopguy)
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To: MichaelP

Not to split hairs, but Aegis wasn't built to intercept ICBM's. It was built to protect the carrier group from a missile flying right at it. But that is why we have the missile defense program. Screw those other countries who are against it.


37 posted on 04/25/2005 6:47:55 AM PDT by Flightdeck
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To: GingisK
Actually, not to far fetched.

India is mostly Hindu, which is even worse than Christian to a Muslim. Christians are at least people of the book.

More likely would be Europe. Shorter range and less defenses. Also less technically up to date. One of the benefits of socialism is all the old infrasructure stays around until you have to replace it.

U.S. infrastructure is much less vulnerable now than it was in the 80's and 90's. Built in protections from solar activity also work versus EMP. Also, the size/design of the device affects the amount of EMP. First generation devices (atomic fission) do not generate the truly hard EMP that a second plus generation device (hydrogen fusion) develops.

Tin Foil Hat Theory: This is all a plot between the Chinese and the Iranians. EMP will not affect the power grid or the military. All home electronic will be devastated. Since they are all made in China, this will be a big boost to the Chinese economy. (Play twilight zone theme).
38 posted on 04/25/2005 6:48:40 AM PDT by fireforeffect (A kind word and a 2x4, gets you more than just a kind word.)
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To: Cyclops08

Why do I feel like I'm part of a two minute hate here?

They could do this if they had a death wish.


39 posted on 04/25/2005 6:50:50 AM PDT by kinghorse
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To: DJ Taylor
The stunning report was first published over the weekend in Joseph Farah's G2 Bulletin, the premium, online intelligence newsletter published by WND's founder.

Joseph Farah on Joseph Farah.

40 posted on 04/25/2005 6:51:21 AM PDT by Larry Lucido
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