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Republicans Have the Votes to Stop Judicial Filibusters
The National Ledger ^ | April 24, 2005 | CK Rairden

Posted on 04/24/2005 7:42:14 PM PDT by Coastal

Senate Majority Whip Mitch McConnell of Kentucky told CBS's "Face the Nation" on Sunday that the Republican Party now has the votes in the U.S. Senate to stop any planned Democratic filibuster of the president's judicial nominees.

"There's no doubt in my mind, and I'm a pretty good counter of votes ... that we have the votes we need," McConnell said on the Sunday morning news program.

That quickly brought out a spokesman for Harry Reid to challenge that claim.

(Excerpt) Read more at nationalledger.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 109th; filibuster; judicialfilibusters; mitchmcconnell; ussenate
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1 posted on 04/24/2005 7:42:15 PM PDT by Coastal
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To: Coastal

Have the votes, maybe.

Have the courage?


2 posted on 04/24/2005 7:44:20 PM PDT by Old Sarge (In for a penny, in for a pound, saddlin' up and Baghdad-bound!)
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To: Coastal

Here is how I view it. The democrats want to disenfranchise me. How? By denying the 2 senators that represent me from voting. Just the idea that someone in Cleveland be denied the chance to vote sends the libs into rabid tantrums. But the fact that I am not being allowed to be represented in Congress, they think that is democracy.


3 posted on 04/24/2005 7:46:50 PM PDT by feedback doctor (God wants to write His law upon the hearts of all)
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To: Old Sarge
"Have the courage?"

Or the time? People are literally dying as they wait to get some sane judges appointed. It's nearly May. GET ON WITH IT!!

4 posted on 04/24/2005 7:57:59 PM PDT by SteveMcKing
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To: Old Sarge

Have the courage?
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Major problem for us. The Dems need to get their teeth kicked in real good by a Republican-controlled Congress, otherwise they will continue their non-stop obstructionist setting of the Washington agenda and the Repubs will remain in political paralysis, afraid of the MSM and the junk-yard dog Dems...NOW, REPUBS, NOW!!!!


5 posted on 04/24/2005 8:00:47 PM PDT by EagleUSA (q)
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To: Coastal

The Majority Whip should know if anyone knows. But I'll be happier after I see it happen.


6 posted on 04/24/2005 8:01:01 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Coastal
Just DO IT, already, Senator Frist! For PETE'S SAKE, i'm SICK of this TALK, TALK, TALK! These cowards are going to drive me right over to the constitution party if this keeps up.
7 posted on 04/24/2005 8:01:55 PM PDT by tame (Ann Coulter is as SHAMELESS for the truth as leftists are for a lie!)
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To: Coastal

Will there come a day the Republicans don't have a majority? It is possible that this change will be regretful.


8 posted on 04/24/2005 8:04:33 PM PDT by Americalover
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To: Americalover
I've pointed that out before. It seems the only reason not to make the change. BUT I don't think the republicans block appellate judges that way anyway.

As far as making the change, they should have just done it and not even bothered going on and on about it. The change would be made, judges would get voted on, and the general public would see nothing wrong with the process. All this talk about the stupid rule is pointless.

9 posted on 04/24/2005 8:14:23 PM PDT by Williams
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To: Americalover

If Republicans are ever not the Majority (and it is absurd for a political party to be thinking in mode of the minority until they are one, fastest way to get there) they wouldn't filibuster Justices as the Dems have. Never have, never would summon the courage.

Nor would it be RIGHT to do so.

Doing the right thing is never something to regret.

Also, For that argument to even have a thread of validity, it would have to be assumed the Dems wouldn't pursue this course if positions were reversed. Sorry, I know them to well to believe they wouldn't break a filibuster in a heartbeat first Day of the new session with 51 votes max.


10 posted on 04/24/2005 8:15:40 PM PDT by Soul Seeker
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To: Coastal

I'll believe it when I see it.


11 posted on 04/24/2005 8:16:00 PM PDT by TAdams8591 (Evil succeeds when good men don't do enough!!!!)
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To: Americalover
possible that this change will be regretful

Hardly. It is actually applying the constitution rather than subverting it. The Constitution says that the president nominates and the Senate advises and consents.

Also, there have been changes to the cloture rule in the past, so there's no reason to think that changing it now will somehow be a violation of what's been done in the past. Changing it IS what's been done in the past.

12 posted on 04/24/2005 8:35:01 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It!)
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To: Americalover
Will there come a day the Republicans don't have a majority? It is possible that this change will be regretful.

The Republicans have not filibustered Judges in the past. How does it hurt us to give up something we have never done?

We have a chance to set the stage for the next 30 years. We can not let it pass.

13 posted on 04/24/2005 8:44:38 PM PDT by CurlyDave
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To: tame
Just DO IT, already, Senator Frist! For PETE'S SAKE, i'm SICK of this TALK, TALK, TALK! These cowards are going to drive me right over to the constitution party if this keeps up.

Me, too. I'm just waiting to see if they have any b@@ls about this issue, as well as Bolton.

14 posted on 04/24/2005 8:47:02 PM PDT by Marathoner
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To: Americalover
Will there come a day the Republicans don't have a majority? It is possible that this change will be regretful.

Do you doubt that when the Dims are in the majority, they won't "go nuclear" the instant they even catch a whiff of a possible GOP fillibuster? They'll do in a heartbeat, and they won't spend months and months wringing their hands about it. And the media will be fully in support of them doing so. There won't be all this phony pontificating about "time honored Senate traditions" then.

15 posted on 04/24/2005 8:48:11 PM PDT by CFC__VRWC ("Anytime a liberal squeals in outrage, an angel gets its wings!" - gidget7)
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To: CFC__VRWC

I agree that the RATS will always do whatever they want and being concerned over Republican reaction is the last thing they worry about. In this situation or any other for that matter. The Republican hesitation to take on the nuclear option, or force a full blown filibuster, has done nothing but harden the RATS position of obstruction and made the GOP look like losers instead of the majority party. In this case, I am afraid that the perception of weakness is the reality or the matter would have been settled long ago.


16 posted on 04/24/2005 9:14:00 PM PDT by mountainfolk (God bless President George Bush)
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To: Americalover
It is possible that this change will be regretful

BING! BING! BING!

WE HAVE A WINNER OF THE LAMEST QUESTION CHALLENGE!!!

When have the Dimorats ever followed the rules when doing so is even the slightest inconvenience? Why fear retribution from the UN-American, amoralists? If (PLEASE, GOD, HAVE MERCY) they do regain a majority in the House, Senate, or the White House, nothing will stop them from legislating us further toward the abyss; and their most loyal lapdogs (MSM) will be on hand to eagerly explain their "noble" actions in the most positive light. - gimme a break!

17 posted on 04/24/2005 9:22:44 PM PDT by caprock
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To: Old Sarge
Republican weenies deserve to be in the minority again. But wait! They are in the minority! Who's running the Senate now? Sure looks like the Harry Reid (!) and the Democrats.
18 posted on 04/24/2005 9:24:59 PM PDT by Uncle Vlad
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To: Americalover

Hello? We don't filibuster Dems judicial appointments, we let everyone vote and let the chips fall where they may. The Senate has never filibustered Judicial nominees, the Dems already are using the nuclear option by not allowing a sitting president to get a vote on his nominees.

If the Dems were in power and we did this shenanigans, the MSM and the Dems would be screaming constitutional crisis. They'll pull the trigger in a heartbeat. We have NOTHING TO LOSE and EVERYTHING TO GAIN.


19 posted on 04/24/2005 9:27:23 PM PDT by dannyboy72 (How long will you hold onto the rope when Liberals pull us off the cliff?)
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To: Americalover

Do you think that if the republicans don't change the filibuster rules because someday, when they are in a minority, they will want to use them, that the future democrats will sit idly by and not change the rules to block the future republican filibuster? Pandora's box is open. It's not like they're going to start playing nice.


20 posted on 04/24/2005 10:16:43 PM PDT by DC Bound (American greatness is the result of great individuals seeking to be anything but equal.)
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