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Viva La South Park Revolucion!
MensNewsDaily ^ | April 24, 2005 | Bernard Chapin

Posted on 04/24/2005 12:07:27 PM PDT by Nasty McPhilthy

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1 posted on 04/24/2005 12:07:31 PM PDT by Nasty McPhilthy
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" ... Anderson’s belief that conservatives have stopped losing the culture war is certainly contestable. Ask any kid in the United States between 10 [yes, I meant 10] and 18 what their favorite kind of music is, and I’ll bet you that at least fifty percent, regardless of race or socioeconomic background, will say “rap” or “hip hop.” Furthermore, all of the blogs, Foxnews, NRO and techcentralstation’s in the world cannot outdo the power of Hollywood’s alternative lifestyle worshipping generofilms."


Wow! I'm shocked and awed!

Why as a 15 year old, I loved Fats Domino, Gene Vincent, Elvis Presley and The Big Bopper. That was in 1957. In 1959 I voted for Kennedy, but recovered and was a Goldwater supporter in '64 and never looked back at a Dimocrat.

There's hope I tell you! There's hope! ;)

2 posted on 04/24/2005 12:19:12 PM PDT by G.Mason ( Because Free Republic obviously needed another opinionated big mouth ... NRA member since 1964)
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To: Nasty McPhilthy
The idea that one possesses social views that diverge from the average conservative has caused many of us on the right to use “libertarian” as a means of self-description.

My views diverge from tradional conservatives, yet I don't accept "libertarian" either.

"South Park Republican" is cool, although it's rather childish sounding. What can we call a Rightist of Calvinist doctrine, pro-American at home and abroad, Constitutional idealistic, viciously anti-Left, and fervently pro-market?


3 posted on 04/24/2005 12:28:36 PM PDT by rdb3 (To the world, you're one person. To one person, you may be the world.)
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To: Nasty McPhilthy

I'm 25, I was a Junior in College on 9-11.

I went to Penn State University in Central PA.

"South Park Republicans" (BIG on free market enterprise, ownership, defense, patriotism, anti-media, but less culturally conservative) ARE real.

They see themselves as the 'irreverent bad boys of conseratism', taking strong stands for capitalism and a strong America as a force of GOOD in the world in an wave of ANTI-PC sentiment. Strangly similar to the 'anti-establishment' crowd, only "big media" and liberals as the 'established' wrong.

They've lived through the PC bull in the most intimate of settings (ie under 18, and then college) and we know its a sham.

At the core they care most about 'freedom' from gov't, personal accountablity, and free enterprise. They are VICIOUSLY anti-nanny state and view most issues wary of that tendancy.

Don't count on them on gay marrage and things like that, but holding the UN accountable, taxes, environmental paranoia, redistrubution of wealth, etc they will be good allies for a long time to come (Since all SPR are pretty much 18-27)


4 posted on 04/24/2005 12:43:50 PM PDT by FreedomNeocon (.)
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To: rdb3
As a former liberal (without knowing what it meant),
As a former libertarian (classical liberal),
As a former atheist,
I now unabashedly describe myself as
1. A struggling christian
2. Husband and father (and now grandfather)
3. American
4. Upper Case - Conservative, lower case - libertarian or somewhere to the right of that wonderful middle of the roader Rush Limbaugh.

For those who don't get it I simply say my three top values are God, Family, and Country. My politics follow directly from these three.

RileyD, nwJ

5 posted on 04/24/2005 12:53:37 PM PDT by RileyD, nwJ ("Only the humble are sane." anon)
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To: rdb3
how about Constitutionalists?
6 posted on 04/24/2005 12:57:18 PM PDT by gidget7 (Get GLSEN out of our schools!!!!!!)
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To: gidget7
how about Constitutionalists?

That description would be apt. But I shy away from those self-appointed "Constitutionalists" because they use the Constitution as a billy club and they act like know-it-alls.

It is obvious that the Constitution is not being taught in our schools, and hasn't been taught in a long time. Go out and ask 5 random people to name Amendments and what they mean in the Bill of Rights outside of the first, fourth, and fifth. I'd wager that one could do it, maybe two on a good day.

How can people desire to live under that which they don't know? Those who argue loudest from a Constitutional perspective are doing so from a huge disadvantage. And using the Constitution to hammer people over the head is foolish. They are right, but they may as well be wrong. It has the same outcome.


7 posted on 04/24/2005 1:08:33 PM PDT by rdb3 (To the world, you're one person. To one person, you may be the world.)
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Most of the "south park republicans" I know, are basically, and pretty much, just extremely anti-liberal.

They have conservative views, but aren't so much proponents of conservatism, but more hyper hostile to liberalism.

They are anti-authority, anti-establishment, anti-liberals.

They don't sell the case for conservatism, but they do one hell of a job of burning down the house of liberalism.

It should go without saying, that professors hate them, and acadamia loathes them.

8 posted on 04/24/2005 1:28:35 PM PDT by Sonny M ("oderint dum metuant")
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What can we call a Rightist of Calvinist doctrine, pro-American at home and abroad, Constitutional idealistic, viciously anti-Left, and fervently pro-market?
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How about "Nationalist" !!!

To wit: Borders - Language - Culture !!! ;-))


9 posted on 04/24/2005 1:29:20 PM PDT by GeekDejure ( LOL = Liberals Obey Lucifer !!! -- Impeach Greer !!!.)
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To: FreedomNeocon

"(Since all SPR are pretty much 18-27)"

I'd increase the age range a bit, as the creators are 33 and 35 years of age, and grew up with and suffered through the same Leftist trope that many of us tail-end Baby Boomers and front-end Gen X'ers did.


10 posted on 04/24/2005 1:38:36 PM PDT by LA Conservative (Peace Kills)
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To: FreedomNeocon
Since all SPR are pretty much 18-27

I'm forty. I know some that are older.

11 posted on 04/24/2005 1:41:07 PM PDT by SC Swamp Fox (Aim small, miss small.)
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To: G.Mason

What led you to vote for Kennedy in 60 and Goldwater in 64? Seem pretty divergent.


12 posted on 04/24/2005 1:47:02 PM PDT by Betaille (Harry Potter is a Right-Winger)
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To: LA Conservative

You are correct.


13 posted on 04/24/2005 1:47:30 PM PDT by cmsgop ( Don't Forget to check out Bea Arthur in the "Menopause Monologues"  coming on NBC this fall)
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To: FreedomNeocon

SPR is just the new label for what PJ O'Rourke called Republican Party Reptiles. The demographic has been around long enough now to have two names, that means we're getting old, and renewing with another generation.


14 posted on 04/24/2005 1:49:02 PM PDT by discostu (quis custodiet ipsos custodes)
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To: SC Swamp Fox; FreedomNeocon

>>I'm forty. I know some that are older.

<*raises hand*>


15 posted on 04/24/2005 1:54:17 PM PDT by FreedomPoster (Official Ruling Class Oligarch Oppressor)
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To: discostu

let's examine the conclusion of the author about the conservatives haven't won the culture war because kids idolize rap

hello rap and hip hop is the antithesis to what the liberals have claimed to represent

it is misogynist aka anti feminist
it is confirming sexual stereotypes that I thought liberals were trying to do away with
it is confirming racial stereotypes that I thought liberals were trying to do away with
it glorifies materialism in a big way, again something I thought liberals abhorred, glorifies gas guzzling hummers etc, lol

in a nutshell, rap and hip hop are as politically incorrect and irreverent as the South Park cartoon itself, no it doesn't serve the religious/conservative agenda either

so it is perfect, a genre of music representing teenage rebellion because it will upset all parents, left and right, black and white

actually I think I may be onto something, I just realized that


16 posted on 04/24/2005 2:01:52 PM PDT by littlelilac
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You got it. Both my sons are "South Park conservatives" in their early twenties.

Political correctness' days are numbered once my generation dies off.


17 posted on 04/24/2005 2:10:50 PM PDT by Luke21
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so it is perfect, a genre of music representing teenage rebellion because it will upset all parents

That is an interesting observation.

18 posted on 04/24/2005 2:45:16 PM PDT by SC Swamp Fox (Aim small, miss small.)
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To: FreedomNeocon

"South Park Republicans" (BIG on free market enterprise, ownership, defense, patriotism, anti-media, but less culturally conservative) ARE real."

Just to reinforce your point Dennis Miller showed up on the Daily Show and described himself as a libertarian and specifically said he wasn't a social conservative.

He dominated his 15 minute spot. Jon Stuart couldn't get a word in edgewise partly because he was laughing too hard and Miller didn't leave a single gap in the conversation.

It was one of Miller's best performances. Very funny.


20 posted on 04/24/2005 2:56:10 PM PDT by beaver fever
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