Which they have had the ability to do since 1996, but some on FR are more interested in knee jerk slogans and calling people who grow food, build things, and create wealth, scumbags.
Dane if you think it is bad now just wait about a year. The tide has turned. The issue is moved up front and former advocates of open borders are turning tail and running. Mr Teddy (the Hutt) Kennedy has no sway over congress on this issue. Even the Dems are catching on. Feel free to look back on this statement and weep later.
How bout they grow food, build things and create wealth in Old Mexico. They would surely be a greater asset there than here. But of course the perks would not be there would they. The US taxpayer can no longer afford those perks Dane.
I call the Hispanics who shot at someone on the freeway last night scumbags.
You betcha.
In your wierd, alternate universe. The adverse effect on the infrastructure,schools, hospitals, roads far outwrights the "wealth" they create. For example, IIRC one study (they quoted it on John & Ken) showed labor was 5 cents on an average head of lettuce.
By driving down wages or forcing those that follow hiring laws out of business they create a perpetual underclass that takes much, much more than it gives.
Immigration enforcement is 1/2 of the solution. We need to see employers do hard prison time. Then watch the immigration slow down to a crawl.
The MMP was a great idea also -- we need it across the entire southern border.
Dane, if you are a producer, You pay their wages, unemployment, school, FICA, medical care, legal bills. Not Local,State, or the Feds Not Taxpayers (everyone else)
If you don't the label applies, quite reasonably to you.
I have never read an FR calling an illegal alien a scumbag. I don't care if they pick food, put up shingles or cleans someone's bathroom they don't belong here without permission of the federal government.
I'd like to know what laws can I break without impunity.
Yeah, and you forgor to mention the new neighbor who does things on the cheap by using illegals to illegally clear his land and creek so he can put in a pool and tennis courts, so he will have the money can buy lawyers to sue his law abiding neighbors so he can encroach on their land. Lets the rich get richer.
National Priorities and Americas Foundation
There are a few foundation stones that keep any country viable, unified and strong. History teaches that when those stones are weakened, the country crumbles. America now faces just that situation at a time when our national priorities in Washington seem to be dangerously upside down.
The key foundation stones as I see them are secure borders, controlled immigration, a common culture and a common language.
Illegal immigration is an invasion of America by a non-military force that is estimated to be approximately 12-20 million strongand growing. These people invade the United States daily by the thousands, damaging public and private property, particularly along our southern border, and threatening the lives and welfare of the good Americans living there. They then place a significant burden on our infrastructure as they become recipients of Americas bounty in competition with our own citizens while were told to be compassionate to these unfortunate folks. As their numbers grow, the pleas for compassion turn into demands and our politicians invariably give in.
Regardless of what you hear about illegal immigrants doing jobs Americans dont want, paying taxes and contributing to Americas prosperity, illegals obviously dont pay or contribute the same as legitimate Americans. Tell me how they pay their fair share of income taxes when they have no social security number, how they pay their share of property taxes when they own no property and lets be frank, how much sales tax can they pay with the little money they make? Does this sound like theyre paying their fair share relative to legitimate Americans? Yet often, theyre given benefits such as schooling, medical care and welfare all paid for by real Americans, like you, who do pay their fair share. In short, illegals are simply illegal period, yet they are enjoying the fruits of Americas bounty at the expense of those tending the ranch and paying all the bills. This cant continue!
While illegal immigration must be stopped in its tracks, legal immigration must be strictly controlled, reduced to a trickle or stopped altogether for a period of time. Whereas most immigrants from previous generations came to America eager to become Americans, many, certainly not all, but many, today come in search of money and entitlements while remaining culturally loyal to their homelands.
Any country, regardless of how robust and prosperous, cannot sustain infinite numbers of people. There are approximately 6.5 billion people in the world. If we were to buy the arguments posed by some that our borders should be open without restriction and that we should welcome all comers regardless of status or numbers, the world would be at our door step demanding a piece of the American dream and that dream would soon turn into a nightmare. If you dont believe it can happen, ask an American Indian about the consequences of uncontrolled immigration.
No matter the ills, America remains the richest nation on earth with a high standard of living. Its to America that most people come when they choose to leave their homeland. What other country has folks waiting to migrate in such numbers and to what other country are people coming illegally in the middle of the night? They sure arent lining up to get into Africa, China, Afghanistan or Central and South America!
Continually bowing to political pressures however, government has shown more regulatory concern (i.e. 20,000+ gun laws) over lawful citizens buying a firearm than they do about unknown foreigners entering the country from God knows where bringing with them God knows what!
While we continually hear proposals to register and track American gun owners by name, number, permit and finger prints, we also hear demands for social benefits, drivers licenses, no profiling, and amnesty for illegalsand most recently under the ruse of guest worker programs.
While the Legislative and Executive branches talk about their top priorities over the next four years being the war on terror, a secure Iraq, health care, reforming social security and the tax code, theyre leaving America vulnerable to real terror along our borders. And when they authorize an increase in border agents in one bill then refuse to fund that increase in a subsequent bill, the phrase lip service comes to mind. Could it be any clearer how upside down American political priorities are becoming?
I applaud the Presidents stated goals for social security and tax reform but if we fail to secure the borders, well lose the country and none of those other political plums now being proposed will matter one wit.
A secure America is the foundation upon which all else dependsperiod. Securing the country MUST be our primary focusall else comes later. This insane attitude that appears more concerned over the welfare benefits and sensitivities of foreigners than the future and security of America has created an environment of authentic anger among growing millions of Americans and has left us extremely vulnerable in its wake.
Regarding our endangered culture, Americas motto E Pluribus Unum means, Out of Many, One it is not E Pluribus, PluribusOut of Many, Many. Americas motto is clear to me; the many cultures that come here should merge into one common American culturethat melting pot weve heard so much about.
A nations culture is the unifying glue that holds a people together and gives them a common sense of unitya way of life they believe in, sharing the traditions and customs of their new homeland and proudly passing it along to their children.
Sadly, what were now seeing is not a melting pot but a mosaic of distinct and separate sub-cultures. For example, how many foreign flags do you see flying from peoples houses, cars and displayed on clothing? How many are self-described as some flavor of hyphenated Americans?
All this is a not so subtle message that these people still relate more to a foreign culture than American. After awhile, this mindset becomes engrained and they think of themselves and teach their children to think not as Americans, but as something else. This is a danger signal for the continued viability of our culture. And in our new found desire to be more accepting of just about everything these days, we not only let it go, we encourage itespecially in our schools where future generations are being indoctrinated and diversity of culture is celebrated at the exclusion and serious dilution of American culture.
Language is another critical element of that unifying glue that holds a nation together and official acceptance of multiple languages does nothing but further the disassociation with things America. We divide ourselves into disparate camps and create untold and unnecessary problems for all. Although the ability to speak multiple languages is a gift, a law officially recognizing multiple languages within one country-one culture is a curse.
How did we come to this situation? When politicians start to play the pandering game for political gain, votes, or acceptance and recognition, they often lose sight of our original American values and become more concerned with the superficial than the factualall to the detriment of the common good and our future as a free and viably independent country.
Where do I stand on national priorities and Americas foundation?
Seal the borders using fences and well armed military forces backed by no non-sense Rules of Engagementthen forewarn the world; America is now deadly serious about defending her borders. If we consider border security of such critical importance that we send troops around the globe to defend foreign borders, why cant Americas borders take priority in defense of our own people and our own existence?
Stop or at least set extremely low limits on legal immigration accompanied by a tough screening process. Keep in mind that it was lax immigration controls that helped 19 terrorists successfully attack America on 9/11/01.
Refuse to officially recognize hyphenated American descriptions and drop all reference to heritage on government forms! You are either an American or a foreigner and if youre a foreigner, you better have the proper visa.
English will be the only official language of the United Statesperiod. I admire those that are multi-lingual but I dont abide any official pressure that requires me to be increasingly proficient in a foreign language in order to function in my own country.
It seems clear to me that unless we return to a philosophy of America first, America will finish last. Legitimate Americans, our culture and our language come first in my bookalways have, always will and if that offends anyone at all, too dang bad.
It is against the Law for anyone (for whatever reason) to enter into this Nation without the approval of the United States Government...and only at specific spots.
..and yet you seem to not care that the Law is broken...only that you will not have to clean your own toilet.
Why???
redrock
And help bust budgets via privatized profits and socialized costs. If they created wealth why didn't they do it Mexico?
Wrong we call them ILLEGAL. WHICH you obviously do not understand. America is a country of laws. Why should only non-brown skin people obey them? You sound just like a Marxist/anarchist.
Maybe you should check the crime stats near my house where most of the rapes, stabbings, drug dealings, etc. are being perpetrated by illegal aliens.
If someone truly wants to integrate into US society to "create wealth", then let them apply legally for a work and residency visa.
If two people sneak over our borders, take jobs at minimum wage, pay no net taxes each year, receive free health care, rental assistance, food stamps, etc., drive without insurance, force us to pay to educate their 5 kids at $10,000 to $15,000 each per year, while they're receiving a $5,000 Income Tax Credit Check yearly, they're not "creating wealth".
On the contrary, they're consuming it.
It'll cost the U.S. Taxpayers roughly $1 million dollars to support this illegal alien family for just 10 years.
Under these circumstances, anyone that refers to these illegal aliens as scumbags is being kind.
Criminal, 3rd world, illegal alien, Marxist/Socialist, scumbag, leeches would be more appropriate.
Wouldn't you agree? ;^)