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Robert Granville, Agent Who Arrested the Rosenbergs, Dies at 89
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/04/24/nyregion/24granville.html ^ | 4/23/05 | STUART LAVIETES

Posted on 04/23/2005 6:10:16 PM PDT by Borges

obert R. Granville, an F.B.I. agent in New York who headed the team that arrested Julius and Ethel Rosenberg, died on April 12 at a hospital in Tampa, Fla. He was 89 and lived in Crystal River.

He had had a stroke two weeks earlier, said his son, Col. Robert R. Granville Jr., M.D.

Mr. Granville began his career at the F.B.I. in 1940 and was promoted to field supervisor of Soviet espionage in the New York office in 1946. On July 17, 1950, he and fellow agents arrested Julius Rosenberg in his apartment at 10 Monroe Street on the Lower East Side. Rosenberg was charged with providing atomic secrets to the Soviet Union, information he was accused of obtaining from his brother-in-law, David Greenglass, a former machinist at the atomic weapons center in Los Alamos, N.M.

Three weeks later, on Aug. 11, Mr. Granville and other agents arrested Rosenberg's wife, Ethel, as she left the United States Court House at Foley Square after testifying before a grand jury.

In March 1951 the Rosenbergs were convicted of conspiracy to commit espionage, and were sentenced to death. After protracted legal appeals and protests by those who questioned their guilt or the severity of the punishment, they were executed in June 1953.

Mr. Granville was involved in another sensational Cold War case, that of Judith Coplon, a young analyst at the Justice Department accused in 1949 of passing government secrets to the Soviets through her lover, Valentin A. Gubitchev, an engineer and official at the United Nations.

Believing that Ms. Coplon had just handed F.B.I. documents to Mr. Gubitchev, Mr. Granville arrested the couple as they walked along Third Avenue. Although Ms. Coplon was found guilty in two trials, her conviction was eventually overturned because Mr. Granville had arrested her without a warrant and because the F.B.I. had used illegal wiretaps during surveillance.

Mr. Granville left the F.B.I. in 1952 when he was chosen by Harry S. Truman to head the President's Committee on Equal Employment Opportunities, a group formed to enhance federal efforts to ban discrimination in the defense industries.

Later, he worked as an executive at the General Cable Company and as executive director of the New Jersey chapter of the American Diabetes Association.

Robert Richey Granville was born in 1916 in Wallace, Idaho, and received a B.S. in business administration and a law degree from the University of Idaho.

Mr. Granville's first wife, Jean, died in 1987. In addition to Colonel Granville, a son from his first marriage, who is stationed at the Brooke Army Medical Center in San Antonio, he is survived by his wife, Leslie; a daughter from his first marriage, Sandy Sheehy of Galveston, Tex.; two grandsons; and three great-grandchildren.


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1 posted on 04/23/2005 6:10:18 PM PDT by Borges
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To: Borges
QUESTION- yes the Rosenberg's were spies. But what did Hollywood have to do with communism?
2 posted on 04/23/2005 6:13:33 PM PDT by LauraleeBraswell ( We must stand behind TOM DELAY!)
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To: Borges

Even after the Soviet archives have been opened and communications to the Rosenbergs discovered, it is still a matter of faith among the left that the Rosenbergs were innocent.


3 posted on 04/23/2005 6:14:54 PM PDT by mark502inf
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To: LauraleeBraswell

I don't know if you're joking or not but there were figures in the film making community who belonged to various American Front groups that were taking their orders from the Soviet Union.


4 posted on 04/23/2005 6:19:37 PM PDT by Borges
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To: LauraleeBraswell

"But what did Hollywood have to do with communism?"

Read up on Ronald Reagan's fight with the Communist-controlled labor unions:

http://www.ronaldreagan.com/hollywood.html

"There were then forty-three labor unions in the picture business. A few were independents but most were affiliated with the American Federation of Labor. The Screen Actors Guild was one of the latter, as was the International Association of Theatrical and Stage Employees - better known as the stagehands' union or by its initials, IATSE. During the absence of so many of us during the war something new had come into being. Some of the unions had gotten together to organize what they called the "Conference of Studio Unions," also known as CSU. The rump CSU group was run by a man named Herb Sorrell, head of the studio painters' union, who set out with a plan to gain jurisdictional control over a group of workers within an IATSE branch called the Set Erectors. There were only about 350 set erectors in the whole industry but the CSU called a strike demanding that the studios recognize it as their exclusive bargaining agent. The IATSE told its members to cross the CSU picket lines and war broke out. Naturally, actors and actresses came to the officers of the Guild, asking us what they should do. When we held the meeting, it was obvious that the CSU strike was a phony. It wasn't meant to improve the wages and working conditions of its members, but to grab something from another union that was rightfully theirs."


"The gates of the studios soon became a bloody battleground of daily clashes between the people who wanted to work and the strikers and outside agitators brought in to help them. A union of waterfront workers headquartered in San Francisco suspected of having Communist affiliations sent mass pickets to aid the CSU strikers. Homes and cars were bombed and many people were seriously injured on the picket lines; workers trying to drive into a studio would be surrounded by pickets who'd pull open their car door or roll down a window and yank the worker's arm until they broke it, then say, "Go on, go to work, see how much you get done today." In the end, we beat 'em. The strike collapsed in February 1947. The decision by the Guild and several other unions to ignore the picket lines ultimately destroyed not only the strike but the Conference of Studio Unions."


"Later, several members of the Communist Party in Hollywood who had been involved in the attempted takeover went public and described in intimate detail how Moscow was trying to take over the picture business. The California Senate Fact-Finding Committee on Un-American Activities, after a lengthy inquiry, confirmed that the strike was part of a Soviet effort to gain control over Hollywood and the content of its films. Although the principal leader of the strike told Congress that he had never been a Communist, investigators produced evidence that they said proved he was a secret member of the party, and a year later, national leaders of his union concluded he had "willfully and knowingly associated with groups subservient to the Communist Party."


5 posted on 04/23/2005 6:23:57 PM PDT by LibFreeOrDie (L'chaim!)
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To: LibFreeOrDie; Borges



I'm not joking. My History prof (he's a commi) is teaching about this right now. I have to read up on it so I can interject in class. I like the guy- he let's me speak up and I do throw a liberal liner here and there. I think he likes that I actually know what I'm talking about.


6 posted on 04/23/2005 6:27:13 PM PDT by LauraleeBraswell ( We must stand behind TOM DELAY!)
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To: LibFreeOrDie


Alright but- was it a crime to be a communist in the US? And we're people really black listed for being communists?


Russia was trying to take over the film industry? It sounds a bit far fetche that's all.

By the way- I think it ought to be a crime to be a communist in the US. That's not was we were founded on.






7 posted on 04/23/2005 6:31:02 PM PDT by LauraleeBraswell ( We must stand behind TOM DELAY!)
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To: LauraleeBraswell

Don't believe the cr*p you hear about the heroism of the Hollywood Ten. The truly brave guys, like Elia Kazan, continue to be reviled. Kazan was roundly booed by Oscar attendees a few years ago. Ever see "On the Waterfront"? That's really about him standing up to the Communists.


8 posted on 04/23/2005 6:31:47 PM PDT by LibFreeOrDie (L'chaim!)
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To: LauraleeBraswell
Read the "Hollywood Party", I forget who wrote it, Good Read.
9 posted on 04/23/2005 6:33:37 PM PDT by Little Bill (A 37%'r, a Red Spot on a Blue State)
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To: LibFreeOrDie


Was there really a blacklist? It sounds like the people who spoke out against communism were blacklisted.


10 posted on 04/23/2005 6:33:38 PM PDT by LauraleeBraswell ( We must stand behind TOM DELAY!)
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To: LibFreeOrDie; LauraleeBraswell
The number of people booing was actually fairly small. Warren Beatty of all people gave him a standing ovation. Kazan was a representative of a certain generation that got into radical politics in the Depression era. It was an unfortunate time in American history when many artists and intellectuals were seduced by Marxism. I imagine it was dilettantish for most of them. Some were just flat out commies though.
11 posted on 04/23/2005 6:37:57 PM PDT by Borges
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To: Borges
I read his Bio years ago, a lot of it was close to the chest stuff, still censored by the feds. He was involved in the Venona decripts, as an investigator, and knew all of the major players commie and good guys. Patriot.

Bill

12 posted on 04/23/2005 6:40:11 PM PDT by Little Bill (A 37%'r, a Red Spot on a Blue State)
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To: LauraleeBraswell
There was a blacklist among the major American film studios. Blacklisted writer mostly wrote under assumed names. For actors it was a lot tougher. Trivia: The blacklist was broken in 1960 when writer Dalton Trumbo got screen credit in Kirk Douglas' production of Spartacus.
13 posted on 04/23/2005 6:45:37 PM PDT by Borges
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To: LauraleeBraswell

"Russia was trying to take over the film industry? It sounds a bit far fetche that's all."

Not far fetched at all. Control all forms of media. Control education. Reap the benefits years later with a weakened opponent. That was the plan. Post #6 gives a brief synopsis.

It wasn't a crime to be a communist per se. Some of the communist activities (i.e., espionage) were clearly illegal and some were benign (but were sometimes used to fund the illegal activities).

There are a few books out there about the Venona Transcripts that go into great detail. You could also google Venona and get the NSA's website that has some of them online.


14 posted on 04/23/2005 6:51:54 PM PDT by edfrank_1998
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To: LauraleeBraswell
I recall reading there was actually a conservative blacklist. They were actors that couldn't find work because they were conservative, but John Wayne picked them up for his films. That is why you see so many of the same actors in his films over and over again.
Perhaps someone more in tune with Hollywood could confirm this. I do know that John Wayne seemed to be the lone voice of American values on film in the 60's when I was a kid.
15 posted on 04/23/2005 6:54:15 PM PDT by IrishCatholic (No local communist or socialist party chapter? Join the Democrats, it's the same thing.)
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To: edfrank_1998

Oops. Make that post #5.


16 posted on 04/23/2005 6:57:34 PM PDT by edfrank_1998
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To: mark502inf
a matter of faith among the left that the Rosenbergs were innocent.

And Hiss. Why? Call the shrinks.

17 posted on 04/23/2005 6:58:02 PM PDT by cornelis
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To: Borges; LauraleeBraswell; Little Bill; edfrank_1998; cornelis; mark502inf; IrishCatholic

A few years ago, PBS (!!!) had an excellent 4-parter, "The Red Files", that included info on the atomic spies, especially Ted Hall and the Cohens.
Transcripts are available here:

http://www.pbs.org/redfiles/


18 posted on 04/23/2005 7:11:01 PM PDT by LibFreeOrDie (L'chaim!)
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To: IrishCatholic
I recall reading there was actually a conservative blacklist. They were actors that couldn't find work because they were conservative, but John Wayne picked them up for his films.

I've never heard anything like that especially at that time. If you have more info about it I'd love to hear about it. In regards to Wayne having the same people in his films. It was more a function of John Ford (who made many films with Wayne) using his stock company. He was famous for it and audiences would wait to see people like Ward Bond in a Ford film. Hitchcock used the same actors often as well. I wouldn't attribute that to politics.
19 posted on 04/23/2005 7:15:38 PM PDT by Borges
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To: Borges; IrishCatholic



Look at Hollywood now. People get blacklisted for being Republicans.


20 posted on 04/23/2005 7:22:52 PM PDT by LauraleeBraswell ( We must stand behind TOM DELAY!)
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