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Affirmative Action Factor In Atlanta Shooting?
Fox News ^ | April 22, 2005 | Fox News

Posted on 04/23/2005 5:41:43 PM PDT by MisterRepublican

ATLANTA, Ga. — Investigators blame last month’s deadly Atlanta courthouse shooting on a series of mistakes and missteps. But some affirmative action critics say it boils down to the fact that there was a woman deputy escorting accused gunman Brian Nichols.

“You have a female officer who is about 5 feet 2 inches tall, versus a criminal in this case — a former linebacker who is 6 feet tall,” said John Lott, a resident scholar at the American Enterprise Institute, a think tank in Washington.

Those in favor of affirmative action — the policy of hiring and recruiting with the intent of eliminating effects of past discrimination or preventing discrimination altogether — say the practice shouldn’t get the blame for the March 11 shooting rampage at Fulton County Superior Court in Atlanta.

“Affirmative action certainly cannot be the scapegoat for sloppy procedures or for not being attentive,” said Bob Ethridge of the American Association for Affirmative Action. “A lot of different things went wrong.”

Nichols, about to face a retrial for rape and other offenses, allegedly overpowered the female deputy escorting him to court. With her gun, police say Nichols shot the judge who was to preside over his trial, the court reporter, another sheriff’s deputy in his path as he fled and a U.S. customs agent who was working on his home in a nearby suburb.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; US: Georgia
KEYWORDS: affermitiveaction; atlanta; atlantashooting; bang; banglist; briannichols; courthouseshooting; deathcultivation; donutwatch; govwatch; pckills; shooting; weakersex; womanguard; women
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1 posted on 04/23/2005 5:41:45 PM PDT by MisterRepublican
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To: MisterRepublican

obviously.

but no feminist or socialist is going to admit it.


2 posted on 04/23/2005 5:42:48 PM PDT by ken21 (if you didn't see it on tv, then it didn't happen. /s)
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To: ken21

I see it as a victory against the PC liberal media/Democrats that the question is even raised. Can you imagine someone declaring such heresy in 1994?


3 posted on 04/23/2005 5:52:06 PM PDT by MisterRepublican
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To: MisterRepublican

Minimum standards are placed on some jobs for a reason. In the case of police officers there used to be a minimum height and weight requirement. Affirmative Action Lowered these standards for women and blacks because they could not meet their quotas of women and blacks without lowering them.

Did this cause the incident in Atlanta, Who knows. Its pretty obvious this criminal knew he could take this Grandmother and he did. He may not have been so willing to take on a man his own height and weight.

The other day I watched a Firefighters Rodeo, Firefighters were required to run this course where they used an axe, carried a hose, ran up stairs and did other things. Strenuous things. there was a mans contest and a womans contest. Why? Are they paid differentally? If the women cant compete with the men, and they obviously cant, Why are they working in the Fire Department? Affirmative Action?
Political correctness? Probably a little of both. But when someone gets killed it matters.


4 posted on 04/23/2005 5:54:53 PM PDT by sgtbono2002
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To: ken21

One thing to keep in mind: The Rhode Island police officer who was overpowered and killed with his own gun last week.


5 posted on 04/23/2005 5:55:23 PM PDT by KJC1
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To: MisterRepublican
Sue the affirmative action, obviously wrong idea costing lives.
6 posted on 04/23/2005 5:55:34 PM PDT by Leo Carpathian (FReeeePeee!)
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To: MisterRepublican
sssssssssshhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!! That is prejudicial to assume a little old lady can't take on a man the size of a linebacker.
7 posted on 04/23/2005 5:56:54 PM PDT by Porterville (Inside the heart of every murderer is a communist. Murderism= Communism= Liberalism)
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To: KJC1

you don't know the details of this one yet, and may never know.

the other one was on video.


8 posted on 04/23/2005 5:58:52 PM PDT by ken21 (if you didn't see it on tv, then it didn't happen. /s)
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To: ken21

This kind of thing has happened many, many times and sadly will continue to happen. These two cases are FAR from unique occurrences.


9 posted on 04/23/2005 6:01:40 PM PDT by KJC1
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To: KJC1

yeah, i agree.

all of my life i remember police or guards being taken by surprise, and being captive or killed by their own weapons.

not new.


10 posted on 04/23/2005 6:03:55 PM PDT by ken21 (if you didn't see it on tv, then it didn't happen. /s)
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To: KJC1

Same Cases..different sexes and colors...
All boils down to ONE THING!!
THE SHEER LUNACY behind "tolerance" and "political Correctness"
When are we going to wake up and realize that these two idiotic concepts are killing us.. literally!
See Florida.. child molesters.. case closed!


11 posted on 04/23/2005 6:07:32 PM PDT by acapesket (never had a vote count in all my years here)
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To: ken21

I can't tell if you are being serious or sarcastic.


12 posted on 04/23/2005 6:07:37 PM PDT by KJC1
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To: KJC1

series.








when i'm sarcastic, i use (/s) afterwards.


13 posted on 04/23/2005 6:09:35 PM PDT by ken21 (if you didn't see it on tv, then it didn't happen. /s)
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To: ken21

Okay. :^)


14 posted on 04/23/2005 6:12:02 PM PDT by KJC1
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To: KJC1

that's a problem with the internet.

i still think there's a valid question about why they let that lady sheriff's officer alone with this guy. apparently he had become a favorite of both law enforcement and the legal community, in effect disarming them with his personality.

on the other hand, some one on this forum, who lives in atlanta, said that the sheriff's dept there has some problems.


15 posted on 04/23/2005 6:15:22 PM PDT by ken21 (if you didn't see it on tv, then it didn't happen. /s)
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To: ken21

We definitely agree on that. They never should have assigned only one deputy to handle someone like Nichols. I hope they learned, but it's terrible that it cost lives for them to learn this.


16 posted on 04/23/2005 6:21:21 PM PDT by KJC1
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To: sgtbono2002

Keep,in mind that "affirmative" action is being inflicted on our schools as well. Do you want a surgeon who was passed thru school via affirmative action? If we lower the standards of physical performance are we lowering the standards of intellectual performance as well? Will you bet your life on it?


17 posted on 04/23/2005 6:22:19 PM PDT by mistfree
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To: ken21

IIRC there was supposed to be another officer there. He begged off at the last minute.

Historically violent offender, large buff guy, uncontrolled area, felony charges.

Three officers when the cuffs come off, minimum.

DK


18 posted on 04/23/2005 6:22:51 PM PDT by Dark Knight
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To: ken21

Sorry, why is that a problem with "the Internet"?
Maybe if you hip young things write proper english, those of us who don't "speak" hiphop internet could keep up!
I am an old Geezer!


19 posted on 04/23/2005 6:24:24 PM PDT by acapesket (never had a vote count in all my years here)
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To: Dark Knight

that sounds like what it would take.


20 posted on 04/23/2005 6:24:37 PM PDT by ken21 (if you didn't see it on tv, then it didn't happen. /s)
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