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BROKEN GATES 'It just doesn't feel like Holland any more'
GLobe and Mail ^ | 04/23/05 | DOUG SAUNDERS

Posted on 04/23/2005 10:26:35 AM PDT by Pikamax

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To: Scothia
and it was all in Spanish too--not even translated! It's getting weirder and weirder.

Come to southern Oregon. It's still English speaking here, so far, and the price of housing is still reasonable. The change is noticeable as soon as you cross the CA/OR line.

41 posted on 04/23/2005 12:29:28 PM PDT by shebacal (Go, Minutemen, Go)
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To: Mr. Mojo

well the Dutch fellow was right to some extent

except for the largest cities, like Toronto and the GTA the Greater Toronto area, you don't have these balkanization of immigrants, Toronto and area had tended to develop neighbourhoods, like in NYC, like in London, like in Detroit

I look at my own neighbourhood for an example - at one time we had Germans, Dutch, Vietnamese, Korean, Irish, British, Japanese, Chinese, East Indian, Pakistani, Serbian, Polish, Italian, Hungarian, Portuguese native, black, white and yellow, along with some Canadians, first second and third generation all living in the same middle class neighbourhood, and I'm sure I have forgotten some groups, I don't know if we have any Jews though, there are indeed Jews in Brantford, but they may live in a better part of town, LOL, but most of the other religions all represented - I mean Osama Bin Laden would have a heart attack

.....no racial strife here, just the usual petty neighbour dust ups from time to time in fact the biggest feud I remember was my friends who couldn't stand their teacher neighbours, and they were all Canadian....LOL....teachers are a different breed, LOL

now I don't know if we have any Arabs in the neighbourhood though there clearly has been an influx of Arabs into the city - all the gas stations on the main strip seem to belong to Arabs now, but you know they are friendly people, good service, keep the places immaculate so hey

I remember when I went to school, the kids that came from immigrant families, we had an Italian guy, an East Indian family that was Hindu, and a Sikh family, well I'll tell you, we all had those kids corrupted in no time, LOL,
all the East Indian kids rebelled, they became very Canadianized very fast, even the Sikh fellow, though they did get it rougher by some kids, me and my siblings were always friendly with these kids, in fact the one East Indian boy was part of my brother's crew, as the kids say today, of course he was lucky he didn't have to wear any special clothes so he fit in better than the girls who had to wear saris etc, which they hated....and see this is the key, you have to assimilate quickly....LOL


in high school, it was pretty white bred school but many of us were first generation Canadians, I am - we had 2 black families, two brothers in one, two sisters in the other, they were all excellent athletes so they were popular in our school [our high school was a lot like an American high school, athletes ruled, didn't even matter what socioeconomic background you were from, if you were good at sports, everyone loved you] we also had some Chinese kids, fully assimilated before they even got to high school, also popular kids, we did also have native kids, some of the native kids weren't treated well sometimes, that I'll admit but others were, again there was one native kid who was an excellent athlete, very popular, I hung out with a couple of native kids too - of course when you think about high school, we all could be vicious to each other about petty things, never mind race, I remember how rich your parents were was more a dividing line.....unless again you were a jock or cheerleader


we get migrant workers in the summer time because the local farmers can't find local workers so they are brought in from Holland, surprisingly enough, that is how my Dad, now 75, came to Canada, as a farm worker, they bring them in from Mexico, Jamaica....but these guys have to go back home, wonder if they do?

BC now that is a Dutchie haven, my mother and her family settled in BC when they first came to Canada, I have aunts and uncles and cousins out there still, they even had a Dutch Canadian premier, remember old Bill Vanderzalm, he had some corruption scandal bring him down, shocking for a Dutchman....

however as a Canadian of Dutch origin, welcome, Dutchies, come on down, you are mostly decent folk that work hard.....


42 posted on 04/23/2005 12:52:46 PM PDT by llama hunter
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To: Peter Libra

um actually the natives are also immigrants technically

the theory is they walked over from Asia during the end of the ice age

there is some evidence as well now that some of the native people that settled in the Americans may have come from as far as where France is today, a theory......


43 posted on 04/23/2005 12:55:16 PM PDT by llama hunter
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To: ladyjane

To the Dutch we are the Great Satan.


44 posted on 04/23/2005 1:44:50 PM PDT by mlmr (The Culture of Death will get a lot more deadly before it's done.)
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To: shebacal
Come to southern Oregon. It's still English speaking here, so far, and the price of housing is still reasonable. The change is noticeable as soon as you cross the CA/OR line.

In my dreams...

Hey, what about all that anti-Californian sentiment up there? I've already been warned by friends who live near Salem.

45 posted on 04/23/2005 2:05:20 PM PDT by Scothia (If you pray for rain, prepare to deal with some mud.)
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To: Pikamax

Every Dutch Prime Minister of the last 30 years, still living, should be in prison.


46 posted on 04/23/2005 2:11:23 PM PDT by dagnabbit (Vincente Fox's opening line at the Mexico-USA summit meeting: "Bring out the Gimp!")
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To: Mr. Mojo
Why? It's not like Canada looks like Canada anymore either.

Canada is becoming Asia/West.

47 posted on 04/23/2005 4:01:32 PM PDT by Tallguy
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To: Pikamax

"There's a different social consensus in Canada," Mr. Rijniersce said. "People are more interested in becoming part of Canadian society, and nobody makes a big deal about their arrival."
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Well Mr. Rijniersce, you haven't done your homework. It's not called Canuckistan for nothing. Sharia is legal and out west you may not have as many mosques sending out their blood curdling whines but they should be coming out there too in the not-too-distant future.


48 posted on 04/23/2005 4:08:11 PM PDT by eleni121 ('Thou hast conquered, O Galilean!' (Julian the Apostate))
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To: Pikamax; kingattax; Mr. Mojo; LibWhacker; Gritty
'It just doesn't feel like Holland any more'

REALLY!

The war between capitalist, socialist,
atheist commies and the religious continue.

WOW! The bottom lines is the Muslims
pick up the population slack in the
Netherlands.
(+ 1 for the capitolist)

The Netherlands

LET'S LOOK AT THE NUMBERS!

357,655 fleeing home
726,000 abortion from 1970-2005
1,083,655 Dutch Missing.

.vs

945,000 Incoming Muslims:


Netherlands Islamic community to hit 1 million in 2006

AMSTERDAM — There were 945,000 Muslims living in the Netherlands on 1 January this year, double the amount in 1990, the Central Bureau of Statistics (CBS) said on Monday. The number is expected to reach 1 million in 2006.

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The Dutch are cowards.

(- one for the socialist)

OK we have 357,655 fleeing home and 726,000 abortion in the Netherlands from 1970-2005 which totals 1,083,655 Dutch.

357,655 Dutch born leaving FLEEING their country.

1995: 38,507 - 1996: 40,365 - 1997: 37,849
1998: 35,778 - 1999: 35,785 - 2000: 37,414
2001: 39,380 - 2002: 46,631 - 2003: 45,946
SOURCE: CITIZENSHIP AND IMMIGRATION CANADA, STATISTICS NETHERLANDS

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(- one for the religious)
(+ one for the atheist commies)

The Dutch are kill their own.

StiSAN is the Dutch umbrella organization of abortion clinics.

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The Dutch are killing others.

Dutch Women On Waves.
Women on Waves is looking for women who speak and write in Polish, Portuguese or Spanish.


The abortion ship Borndiep is trolling off the coast of Lisbon 2004 for a kill.

Question: Why don't Women On Waves sail into Alexandria, Egypt or better yet cities in the Persian Gulf?



AMSTERDAM (Reuters) - A Dutch floating abortion clinic
banned from sailing abroad after controversial visits to Ireland and Poland pledged on Friday to take the Dutch government to court within weeks to lift the restriction.


Portuguese navy ship F486 "Baptista de Andrade" blocks the abortion ship "Borndiep" with RU486 on-board from entering the harbor of Figueira da Foz.


Link: Story at the bottom of the page.

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Grand Total: OK, what caused all of the killing in the 20th century?

Well, what can you say about a century that begins and ends with killing in Sarajevo? "Good riddance" springs to mind. Somewhere around 180 million people have been killed in one Twentieth Century atrocity or another -- a far larger total than for any other century in human history.


Overview of Twentieth Century Wars, Massacres and Atrocities:

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Bottom Line is the west is dying.
Becoming extinct because of these
organizations listed below.


Pro-Abortion Org's

THE WEST IS DYING
Overpopulation is largely a hoax

THE END!

49 posted on 04/23/2005 4:56:49 PM PDT by Major_Risktaker
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To: kingattax

Yes we Hispanics are going to inter-marry with the white chicks.... are you scared?


50 posted on 04/23/2005 5:00:07 PM PDT by Porterville (Inside the heart of every murderer is a communist. Murderism= Communism= Liberalism)
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To: Pikamax; ninenot; sittnick; steve50; Hegemony Cricket; Willie Green; Wolfie; ex-snook; FITZ; ...

Dutch deserve to have their country to be changed into another Muslim Kosovo for keeping Serbian leaders in Hague dungeon. Serves them RIGHT!


51 posted on 04/23/2005 5:02:25 PM PDT by A. Pole (Mandarin Meng-tzu: "The duty of the ruler is to ensure the prosperous livelihood of his subjects.")
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To: Porterville; A. Pole; kingattax

Ethnicity is not the problem - more multi-ethnic the better for the DNA gene pool - the issue is culture - a nation can thrive being multi-ethnic but it will come apart if it is multi-cultural. Americans need to get over the 18th century thinking in terms of race and skin color and in terms of culture.


52 posted on 04/23/2005 5:07:38 PM PDT by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorism by visiting johnathangaltfilms.com and jihadwatch.org)
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To: Porterville; A. Pole; kingattax

Ethnicity is not the problem - more multi-ethnic the better for the DNA gene pool - the issue is culture - a nation can thrive being multi-ethnic but it will come apart if it is multi-cultural. Americans need to get over the 18th century thinking in terms of race and skin color and START THINKING in terms of culture.


53 posted on 04/23/2005 5:08:03 PM PDT by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorism by visiting johnathangaltfilms.com and jihadwatch.org)
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To: Destro
I just like messing with people that feel they have to take that approach in every subject.... Most legal Hispanics want tight borders- it is the communist judges and limp wrist politicians that won't step up. Fortunately we are America and not anywhere Europe.
54 posted on 04/23/2005 5:13:15 PM PDT by Porterville (Inside the heart of every murderer is a communist. Murderism= Communism= Liberalism)
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To: Porterville

Nothing to do with limp wrists or communists. The allowance of illegals is on purpose by our leaders because it creates a cheap labor pool for employers who need cheap manual (or is that Manuel) labor.


55 posted on 04/23/2005 5:19:56 PM PDT by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorism by visiting johnathangaltfilms.com and jihadwatch.org)
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To: Destro
I don't think are politicians are that hardened. I think they are more likely weak in the stomache- like whores. Whores can do things that most people think are impossible and tough. But in truth, their behavior reflects the level of deprivation their souls have sunk.

Politicians, like whores, are weak although they seem hard. Everyday they wake up, look in the mirror and say, "I wonder how many Johns I have to skank myself out to so I can keep my place?"
56 posted on 04/23/2005 5:30:38 PM PDT by Porterville (Inside the heart of every murderer is a communist. Murderism= Communism= Liberalism)
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To: Destro

are=our


57 posted on 04/23/2005 5:31:06 PM PDT by Porterville (Inside the heart of every murderer is a communist. Murderism= Communism= Liberalism)
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To: Porterville

I stand by my statement.


58 posted on 04/23/2005 5:34:35 PM PDT by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorism by visiting johnathangaltfilms.com and jihadwatch.org)
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To: ladyjane

I'm sorry, but they're choosing Canada because we aren't "peaceful" and "tolerant" and socialist enough.


59 posted on 04/23/2005 5:50:04 PM PDT by stands2reason (It's 2005, and two wrongs still don't make a right.)
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To: Pikamax
"As a society, we have always been very tolerant to people from other places -- for hundreds of years, this has been the case -- but we have become so tolerant that some groups are influencing society in such a way that it starts to become intolerant. People are fed up with this."

Um... okay.

60 posted on 04/23/2005 5:56:13 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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