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Army Clears Officers in Abu Ghraib Case
Orange County Register ^ | 4/23/2005 | ROBERT BURNS

Posted on 04/23/2005 9:11:21 AM PDT by kellynla

WASHINGTON (AP) -- Lt. Gen. Ricardo Sanchez, faulted by some for leadership failures in the Abu Ghraib prisoner abuse scandal, has been cleared by the Army of all allegations of wrongdoing and will not be punished, officials said.

Three officers who were among Sanchez's top deputies during the period of the prisoner abuse in the fall of 2003 also have been cleared. An Army Reserve one-star general has been reprimanded, and the outcome of seven other senior Army officer cases could not be learned Friday.

Sanchez, who became the senior U.S. commander in Iraq in June 2003, two months after the fall of Baghdad, has not been accused of criminal violations. It is unclear, however, whether the controversy surrounding his role in Iraq will stand in the way of his earning a fourth star. He is nearing the end of his tenure as commander of the Army's 5th Corps, based in Germany.

After assessing the allegations against Sanchez and taking sworn statements from 37 people, the Army's inspector general, Lt. Gen. Stanley E. Green, concluded that the allegations were unsubstantiated, according to officials familiar with the details of Green's probe.

Green reached the same conclusion in the cases of two generals and a colonel who worked on Sanchez's staff.

The officials who disclosed the findings spoke only on condition of anonymity because the results on Sanchez and 11 other officers who were the subject of Green's scrutiny have not yet been publicly released and Congress has not been fully briefed.

The question of accountability among senior Army and Defense Department officials who were in positions of responsibility on Iraq detention and interrogation policy has been hotly debated in Congress.

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TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: abughraib; army; courtmartial; iraq; ricardosanchez
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1 posted on 04/23/2005 9:11:22 AM PDT by kellynla
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To: kellynla

The US Army covering the asses of the Clinton era and Affirmative Action Generals.


2 posted on 04/23/2005 9:15:21 AM PDT by zzen01
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To: zzen01
Well I do think that the C.O. and his subordinates should be held responsible for the poor treatment(I don't think it was torture but certainly inappropriate) of the prisoners.

As one who was involved in the capture and interrogation of prisoners in Nam, we certainly didn't resort to such treatment.(and I won't go any further into that)

Semper Fi,
Kelly
3 posted on 04/23/2005 9:24:14 AM PDT by kellynla (U.S.M.C. 1st Battalion,5th Marine Regiment, 1st Marine Div. Viet Nam 69&70 Semper Fi)
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To: kellynla; Old Sarge

Ping Sarge


4 posted on 04/23/2005 11:26:01 AM PDT by StarCMC (It's God's job to forgive Bin Laden; it's our job to arrange the meeting.)
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To: zzen01

In general, if a 'suspect' is found innocent through the trial process, it is because he was innocent, not because of politics. Remember, it is the prosecutors responsibility to prosecute the suspect and get a conviction, not find out if he is innocent. A military investigation is probably even more factual and 'fair' than its civilian counterpart.


5 posted on 04/23/2005 11:28:19 AM PDT by Magnum44 (Terrorism is a disease, precise application of superior force is the ONLY cure)
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To: zzen01

My previous comment not withstanding incompetence on the prosecutions or judges part, ala O.J.


6 posted on 04/23/2005 11:30:00 AM PDT by Magnum44 (Terrorism is a disease, precise application of superior force is the ONLY cure)
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To: Magnum44
A military investigation is probably even more factual and 'fair' than its civilian counterpart.

Military Courts Martial and Tribunals are more fair than similar civilian 'investigations' where money talks.

A military inquiry conducted by the IG is worth spit and since the men and women who were tried and convicted and those on the docket were ...prohibited from testifying to any actions or commands by superiors of any rank above their own permanent rank there was no way in hell that anyone could find that Sanchez or any one else was culpable.

This will go into hearings in the Senate and eventually the truth will out and these incompetent, lazy self-serving 0's will get an early retirement and still be able to double dip when they return to the M-I Complex and start lobbying the creeps in the DOD who sanctioned these atrocious acts.

If it were up to me I would put them all in front of a star tribunal and make them wish they were just potted plants, to uncoin a phrase.

7 posted on 04/23/2005 11:49:30 AM PDT by harrowup (Just naturally perfect, humble of course and obviously incapable of discrimination.)
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To: zzen01
The US Army covering the asses of the Clinton era and Affirmative Action Generals.

Or perhaps Sanchez is innocent.

8 posted on 04/23/2005 1:14:39 PM PDT by alnick (Rice 2005: We've only just begun to see what Freedom can achieve.)
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To: kellynla
I'm sure tiny "Puff" Dasshole is deeply saddened..

Semper Fi
9 posted on 04/23/2005 2:48:35 PM PDT by river rat (You may turn the other cheek, but I prefer to look into my enemy's vacant dead eyes.)
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To: zzen01
The US Army covering the asses of the Clinton era and Affirmative Action Generals.

And upon what do you base that? Did you read the report? And since the great majority of the camps in Iraq were well run with no incidents like at Abu Ghraibwhy should the higher level commanders be relieved? The officers directly in charge have been/are being hammered appropriately. The Navy just had a submarine hit something undersea that damaged the boat and killed a sailor (iirc). Should we relieve COMUSNAVPAC? His deputy? That's what you seem to be implying.

10 posted on 04/23/2005 6:44:58 PM PDT by mark502inf
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To: mark502inf

Hit an Army nerve did I?


11 posted on 04/23/2005 6:57:08 PM PDT by zzen01
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To: harrowup

Failure to maintain discipline and order in ones troops is serious and the officers responsible should be removed from their positions of authority. However, this does does imply they are accountable to criminal actions of their troops.

Also, my original comment was in response to the implication that all general officers, or officers in general for that matter, that served under Clinton, are corrupt. I served under Reagan, Bush, Clinton, and Bush, in active and later reserve capacity. Sanchez, while I do not know him, nor do I speak on his behalf, served under many administrations. I think people should be careful not to impune someone because that person spent a portion of an honorable career under a less than honorable superior.


12 posted on 04/24/2005 11:36:22 AM PDT by Magnum44 (Terrorism is a disease, precise application of superior force is the ONLY cure)
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To: Magnum44
However, this does does imply they are accountable to criminal actions of their troops.

They most surely are if they ordered it...but we can't be told that by the PFCs & SP4s being led to the plank...they can't talk about anyone of higher rank than there own permanent rank...which for most would be PVT.

13 posted on 04/24/2005 12:15:41 PM PDT by harrowup (Just naturally perfect, humble of course and obviously incapable of discrimination.)
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To: harrowup
I find it difficult to impossible to believe that any officer in the service today could give such an order with understanding its implications, and to date I have seen no proof of such. Unless you have, your just adding to the conspiracy theory. There may have been some miscommunication, out of the chain of command, by spook types, that encouraged these enlistees to do this, but even our NCO's should know better. Let our justice system do its job.
14 posted on 04/24/2005 3:12:12 PM PDT by Magnum44 (Terrorism is a disease, precise application of superior force is the ONLY cure)
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To: Magnum44
...Let our justice system do its job.

So far it has not.

15 posted on 04/24/2005 3:38:54 PM PDT by harrowup (Just naturally perfect, humble of course and obviously incapable of discrimination.)
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To: kellynla; maica; ColdSpringGirl
An Army Reserve one-star general has been reprimanded

I wonder who that unnamed person might be? The article has no problem mentioning Sanchez.

16 posted on 04/24/2005 3:46:05 PM PDT by Freee-dame
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To: Freee-dame

"Reserve" "one star" sounds very much like that woman who was in charge of the prisons in Iraq, and who was giving interviews all over the media after she was recalled.


17 posted on 04/24/2005 4:33:55 PM PDT by maica
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To: harrowup
So far it has not.

Your opinion. Not fact.

18 posted on 04/25/2005 7:23:46 AM PDT by Magnum44 (Terrorism is a disease, precise application of superior force is the ONLY cure)
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To: Magnum44
"So far it has not."
Your opinion. Not fact.

Fact. Your spin is worse than your opinion.

19 posted on 04/25/2005 7:30:46 AM PDT by harrowup (Just naturally perfect, humble of course and obviously incapable of discrimination.)
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To: harrowup

Back up your claim or explain your bias. Otherwise, don't bother me.


20 posted on 04/25/2005 1:41:17 PM PDT by Magnum44 (Terrorism is a disease, precise application of superior force is the ONLY cure)
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