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Failed Iran rescue mission 25 years ago led to later successes
Associated Press | Bill Kaczor

Posted on 04/22/2005 11:11:00 PM PDT by HAL9000

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1 posted on 04/22/2005 11:11:03 PM PDT by HAL9000
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To: HAL9000
It's got it all.....

The FReeper Foxhole Remembers Operation Eagle Claw (4/24/1980) - Apr. 24th, 2003

2 posted on 04/22/2005 11:16:35 PM PDT by hole_n_one
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To: HAL9000
"Failed Iran rescue mission 25 years ago led to later successes"

Our people did their duty and paid the price for having a completely inept President--they are to be honored.

Having said that, this title must go down in the "saving a lib's legacy" hall of fame. They had to resist the urge to add "No, REALLY"

3 posted on 04/22/2005 11:19:44 PM PDT by Darkwolf (Jean Shepherd audio: http://www.flicklives.com/Mass_Back/mass_back.htm)
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To: HAL9000
AP can spin this all they want, but Jimmy Carter failed those 8 brave Americans who died that day with his order to abort the mission. The fact of the matter is that they died in vein. The whole Hostage situation in Iran was a major embarrassment to this country and no amount of revisionism can change the facts of Jimmy Carter's complete and utter incompetence in his roll as Commander-in-Chief
4 posted on 04/22/2005 11:26:12 PM PDT by MJY1288 ( LIBERALISM IS FOR INVERTEBRATES)
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To: Darkwolf

BINGO


5 posted on 04/22/2005 11:26:40 PM PDT by MJY1288 ( LIBERALISM IS FOR INVERTEBRATES)
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To: HAL9000
Did Jimmah write this friggen headline himself?

The AP is nothing more than a mouthpiece for the DNC.

6 posted on 04/22/2005 11:36:01 PM PDT by zarf
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To: MJY1288

vein s/b vain.


7 posted on 04/22/2005 11:36:17 PM PDT by hole_n_one
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To: HAL9000

The topic is absolutely correct. It did lead to later successes; Reagan, Bush Sr., and W are all successes....


8 posted on 04/22/2005 11:41:15 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: HAL9000
Jimmuh is taking credit for the success of Afghanistan, Iran and elsewhere in 2005?
9 posted on 04/22/2005 11:46:20 PM PDT by Dallas59 (" I have a great team that is going to beat George W. Bush" John Kerry -2004)
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To: hole_n_one

Thanx, My bad :-(


10 posted on 04/22/2005 11:54:16 PM PDT by MJY1288 ( LIBERALISM IS FOR INVERTEBRATES)
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To: MJY1288
AP can spin this all they want, but Jimmy Carter failed those 8 brave Americans who died that day with his order to abort the mission. The fact of the matter is that they died in vein. The whole Hostage situation in Iran was a major embarrassment to this country and no amount of revisionism can change the facts of Jimmy Carter's complete and utter incompetence in his role as Commander-in-Chief

If Jimmuh had had any Testicular Fortitude, he would/should have Arc Lighted the Iranian Embassy within 48 hours of its being taken.

Instead, all the Armed Services wanted a piece of Col. Beckwith's proposed operation. Time was wasted. Near impossible Mission Standards were set and good men died!

Jack.

11 posted on 04/22/2005 11:59:53 PM PDT by Jack Deth (Knight Errant and Disemboweler of the WFTD Thread)
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To: HAL9000

Strange how the military has to suffer to learn leassons under democraps (LBJ,Carter,Clintoon). We learned a lot of lessons in GW 1 which we used in GW II, without a lot of suffering.


12 posted on 04/22/2005 11:59:54 PM PDT by ProudVet77
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I think the whole point of the article is that they did NOT die in vain, because we learned valuable lessons, politics aside. It led to the creation of the Special Operations Command, which was indispensible to future victories.

I know you mean well but the hair on the back of my neck always stands up a little when someone says someone who served honorably in our military in combat "died in vain"-- such as the Dems are fond of saying about Vietnam Vets. The fact is, as long as we honor their service to their country, they absolutely did not die in vain, regardless of the political outcome of the conflict in question.

13 posted on 04/23/2005 12:16:20 AM PDT by zipper ("The fear of God makes heroes, the fear of man makes cowards."-- Sgt Alvin C. York)
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To: zipper

point taken, and I agree


14 posted on 04/23/2005 12:20:55 AM PDT by MJY1288 ( LIBERALISM IS FOR INVERTEBRATES)
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To: Jack Deth
If Jimmuh had had any Testicular Fortitude, he would/should have Arc Lighted the Iranian Embassy within 48 hours of its being taken.

Instead, all the Armed Services wanted a piece of Col. Beckwith's proposed operation. Time was wasted. Near impossible Mission Standards were set and good men died!

I agree. The mission was much too complicated, partly as a result of interservice rivalries. It was the first in a series of leadership blunders under both Dems and Republicans that sent a signal of weakness to our enemies-- two others being the Marine barracks bombing in Beirut (withdrawl) and Mogadishu on Blackhawk Down day (initial buildup then withdrawl).

15 posted on 04/23/2005 12:27:29 AM PDT by zipper ("The fear of God makes heroes, the fear of man makes cowards."-- Sgt Alvin C. York)
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If Jimmuh had had any Testicular Fortitude, he would/should have Arc Lighted the Iranian Embassy within 48 hours of its being taken.

A man can't display testicular fortitude without the requisite physical equipment .... Jimmuh was never even in the game.

16 posted on 04/23/2005 3:21:52 AM PDT by tx_eggman (Liberalism is only possible in that moment when a man chooses Barabas over Christ.)
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To: hole_n_one

http://rescueattempt.tripod.com

The Hostage Rescue Attempt In Iran, April 24-25, 1980
Page One, Introduction

DUE TO THE 25TH ANNIVERSAY COMING UP IN APRIL, SOME HAVE CONTACTED ME ABOUT ANY REMEMBERANCES.

I have received an e-mail from White House Commission on Remembrance , and here are the details they sent me:

The White House Commission on Remembrance will host the 25th Anniversary Remembrance Ceremony in honor of all those who died in the Iran Hostage Rescue Mission. The tribute will take place on April 25th, 2005 at noon in Section 46 of Arlington National Cemetery. We hope that you will be able to join us.

The White House Commission on Remembrance was established by Congress as an independent government agency. It honors America’s fallen and recognizes those who have served and those who continue to serve our country.

If you would like to attend please contact the Commission at commission@remember.gov

MANY PEOPLE HAVE ALREADY INDICATED THEY WILL BE THERE WHO WERE INVOLVED WITH THE MISSION AND WITH SUPPORT.

ALL WHO ARE INTERESTED ARE WELCOME TO ATTEND.

FOR THOSE IN THE FLORIDA AREA, HURLBURT FIELD IS HOLDING A CEREMONY APPROXIMATELY THE SAME DATE FOR THE AIR FORCE CREWS, PLEASE CONTACT HURLBURT FIELD FOR DETAILS.


NEWS FLASH



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The Eagle Claw 25th Anniversary Commemorative Dinner being held in

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The Special Operations Warrior Foundation is hosting this special commemorative dinner and remembrance to honor personnel involved in Operation Eagle Claw and Desert One, the code names for a brave and daring hostage attempt mission to rescue American being held hostage in Iran.

Country star Travis Tritt will be performing as well as rising country artist, and former Army Ranger, Keni Thomas.

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This is one event that you will not want to miss. Tickets will not be available after April 17.

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GOLF SPOTS STILL AVAILABLE FOR THE GOLF TOURNAMENT (April 23) -The Iranian Hostage Rescue Mission Remembrance Golf Tournament, being held at 1:00 pm Sat. April 23rd, at Fort Walton Beach Pines and Hurlburt Gator Lakes, still has some opening for four-some teams. Cost: $50 per person. To register your team, or for more information, please email Taco Sanchez at: info@eagleclawgolftournament.com

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Last call for raffle ticket sales for a one-of-a-kind custom special operations themed motorcycle. This custom built bike will be raffled off at the Eagle Claw 25th Anniversary Dinner, April 24th in Fort Walton Beach, FL.

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17 posted on 04/23/2005 4:16:53 AM PDT by RaceBannon ((Prov 28:1 KJV) The wicked flee when no man pursueth: but the righteous are bold as a lion.)
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To: Jack Deth
"If Jimmuh had had any Testicular Fortitude, he would/should have Arc Lighted the Iranian Embassy within 48 hours of its being taken.

Carter chose to follow the failed leadership style of his predecessors, LBJ and that idiot MacNamarra. I remember reading the critiques of the mission at the time that put the onus on Carter's insistance on direct communication links between the Whitehouse and and the mission leadership. He insisted on looking over the commander's shoulder and second guessing every move. Contrast that with the present CIC and compare the results.

The conceit of both the Johnson and Carter administrations coupled with their distrust of the military cost lives in both cases.

As a side note; Why is it that the MSM still drags Robert MacNamarra out to comment on anything military? Where is his credibility? His record on anything to do with the military is a disgrace. He was dead wrong on Viet Nam and every bit of his commentary on the Afganistan and Iraq Wars have been true-to-form. It's the Dems reliance on people like him that make them a menace to the military.

18 posted on 04/23/2005 4:17:59 AM PDT by wheelright
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To: zarf

No, That hedline is an almost verbatim quote from SF types because it is true.

Because of th failure at Desert One, our forces developed the best systems and training in the world.

We learned how much problems can come from mixing it up, and a few other things.


19 posted on 04/23/2005 4:20:27 AM PDT by RaceBannon ((Prov 28:1 KJV) The wicked flee when no man pursueth: but the righteous are bold as a lion.)
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To: zipper

The mission was not complicated.

There were just too many surprises that were unforseen, and too many people who are not forgiving helicopter pilots who flew for 6 hours in a state of vertigo, puking on their flight suits in 105 degree heat to finally make it to desert one.


20 posted on 04/23/2005 4:23:15 AM PDT by RaceBannon ((Prov 28:1 KJV) The wicked flee when no man pursueth: but the righteous are bold as a lion.)
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