Posted on 04/22/2005 8:20:20 PM PDT by Mount Athos
Comments about the new pope by former North Dakota Gov. George and Jane Sinner on Wednesday appeared incomplete compared to a reference to them.
The 1A reference said the former governor felt Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger was a "reactionary choice who won't lead the church in a progressive way," but Sinner's edited comments on 5A didn't support that reference.
Here's how the Sinners explained their disappointment Tuesday:
"He's always been considered pretty reactionary and maybe even overly reactionary," George Sinner said. "It was an insiders' election and that's the way they go. Ratzinger has been behind a good deal of the really reactionary stuff that has come out the last few years. He's been a harsh advocate of birth control and more traditional views of some churchmen, and certainly very outspoken against married clergy and women clergy."
"But there's hope, I suppose, in things changing when lives change."
George Sinner added that he described what he called the legalism of Ratzinger as "the gospel of faith, hope and law, rather than the gospel of faith, hope and love."
Jane Sinner said Ratzinger's election confirmed her decision last year to quit the church in which she had been born, baptized, confirmed, married and raised 10 children.
The last straw, she said, were reports during last year's presidential campaign that some Catholic bishops said that political candidates who support abortion rights and voters who support such candidates should avoid the communion table, or be turned away.
Reviewing the substance of her letter last year to the Forum of Fargo-Moorhead explaining why she left the church, Jane Sinner said "it had been very hypocritical for bishops on one hand to harbor pedophiles, abusers and thieves under the constitutional umbrella of separation of church and state ... while on the other hand, the bishops have defied the separation of church and state and used their authority to give voting instructions and ultimatums to church members. That was very disturbing to me."
Jane Sinner said she was referring to, among other things, a case several years ago of a North Dakota priest who allegedly stole money from his parish but was not prosecuted because the local state's attorney agreed with the bishop that it was a church, not state, matter.
The ENTIRE THING is the ultimate irony!
I was sure this was from ScrappleFace
I was thinking well duh when I saw the title.
Mrs. Sinner said: "The last straw, she said, were reports during last year's presidential campaign that some Catholic bishops said that political candidates who support abortion rights and voters who support such candidates should avoid the communion table, or be turned away."
I say:
Sorry dear but I do believe they have committed a sin and are not in a state of grace to receive Communion. That is the proper thing to do. At least that is what I remember from religion with Sister Peter Mary, Sister Gennetta, etc etc ad naseum!
I hope I said that right.
Happy LOL Orthodox Moment!
"Satan blasts new Pope as a goody two-shoes"
This needs spread on EVERYBODY'S ping list. As the former Cardinal Ratzinger says, God has a sense of humor!
Unreal!
NYer has the main list and St. Johann Tetzel has a good one too.
This is a 'best of' keeper, for sure.
I'm not Catholic, but I really like this guy.
Appropriate last name.
By that guy, I mean the Pope of course.
Hell, let's go for "Breaking News" on this baby -- it's that good! ... Wonder if Jim would approve?
I guess some folks are just born Sinner's.
You just can't make this stuff up.
O U T S T A N D I N G ! ! ! !
All we can do is ask.
Sublime irony might be a bit much for BN, but it is going to be a big thread IMO, so no loss.
ROFL
Excellent post!
PING !
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