Great Britain: Navy bans St.George flags (Flag said to upset Turks; reminder of Crusades)

The Sun (U.K.) ^ | April 22, 2005 | TOM NEWTON DUNN, Defence Editor, and ALEX PEAKE

[Stoat]

EXCLUSIVE

Navy bans St George flags

Banned ... St George's cross
 

By TOM NEWTON DUNN, Defence Editor
and ALEX PEAKE

THE Royal Navy has banned 12 warships from flying the English flag to commemorate St George’s Day today in case it upsets the Turks.

The order, blasted as “political correctness gone mad”, has enraged men and women of the senior service.

[SamuraiScot]

In 1969 the Roman Catholic Church revised its Calendar of Saints and downgraded Saint George to its lowest status - commemoration - which means celebration of his feast is optional. He has not been, as some people believe, abolished.

Good news for St. George devotees, if you hadn't heard. In 2000, his feast was raised again to a solemnity in England, with a special Mass and liturgy.

And anyone who thinks the dragon-slaying story is fanciful has never seen the crocodiles that grow in his part of the world (North Africa). The biggest in modern memory was a touch over 27 feet long, of which approximately 7 feet is head.

[SamuraiScot]

In 1969 the Roman Catholic Church revised its Calendar of Saints and downgraded Saint George to its lowest status - commemoration - which means celebration of his feast is optional. He has not been, as some people believe, abolished.

Good news for St. George devotees, if you hadn't heard. In 2000, his feast was raised again to a solemnity in England, with a special Mass and liturgy.

And anyone who thinks the dragon-slaying story is fanciful has never seen the crocodiles that grow in his part of the world (North Africa). The biggest in modern memory was a touch over 27 feet long, of which approximately 7 feet is head.

[Chairman Fred]

The Turks had very little to do with the Crusades. The Crusades were over before 1300; the Turks did not rule Comstantinople until 1453, and the Holy Land later.

This is horsesh*t.

[RasterMaster]

How would the Turks know? Is anyone still living who ACTUALLy witnessed the Crusades? Britian bends over once again!

[solitas]

What are all those Hospital ships with the Red Cross painted on it going to do?

Yeah! They may not like red-on-white on the military vessels of other countries; but they're happy as hell to see it on the flags of organizations that step-in to feed them and save their @$$e$ when Mother Nature shakes them to pieces.

[sheik yerbouty]

They've gone starkers..

[PzLdr]

I don't recall the Turks worrying about Christian sensitivities, when they turned St. Sophia into a mosque in 1453, after they stormed Constantinople. They didn't seem that concerned when they took Christian children from the Balkans and made them their Janissary infantry. So who gives a rat's anus what the Turks think? And what's with the Royal Navy? First lavender press gangs, now this. Nelson must be spinning in his grave!

[Peter Libra]

St George is the patron saint of England.

One can always live and learn. Thank you for the post. Shakespeare, of course was born and indeed died on the 23rd of April. His depiction of Henry V in Act 3,scene 1, stirs the blood( well some of us).

"Follow your spirit, and upon this charge, cry God for Harry and St George ".

This flag business is political correctness gone mad indeed. Now this political correctness is still a devastating weapon. The public, suborned by corrupt Marxist Socialists, know full well, it is an excercise in absolute power. They also know it is often "got up" rubbish. The problem is that too many are frightened to speak out. Maybe the Turks do not even bloomin' well care- who knows?

I still may yet live long enough to see the tide turn. Ah, there is one country in Western Civilization, where the tide is slowly and powerfully starting to turn against this programmed madness. I look across at it every day, just across the St Mary's River from Ontario, Canada.

[Smoote]

Apparently Britain hasn't yet learned that there is no appeasing these people. Here is a news flash - no matter what you do, short of converting to Islam, they are not going to "like you". You can kiss their collective butts to and fro until you're blue in the face but you will only whet their appetite for your soul all the more.

Take the case of George Galloway. Do the Muslims of Great Britain have a better friend than old George? Yet a group of Muslims in Britain has issued a fatwa calling for his execution. What more proof does one need that you are not dealing with rational people?

[Eastbound]

Okay, we won't fly it. We'll just wear it.

[kb2614]

"Are these the muslim Turks that butchered 1.5 million Armenian and Greek Christians about 90 years ago?? The Euros are fools!!!!!!!!!"


Yes, these are the same Turks. Yes, the Euro's are fools. Europe has a long and interesting history. It's sad to see it circling down the drain into irrelevance.

[Last Dakotan]

What's with the politically correct CE's in a story about a Christian Saint?

[Will_Zurmacht]

no it now officially the Common Era
Its BCE/CE ( Before Common Era and CE Common Era.
all pubs in history and social sciences must use this format or you'll get a nasty little note to correct it

It's so no one gets offended....hehe

[Americanexpat]

"Are these the same Muslims Turks that butchered 1.5 million Armenian and Greek Christians about 90 years ago."

Yep, and the same Muslims that raped and murdered their way across Eastern Europe for hundreds of years.

Muslims also spread their unholy jihad across Africa, Spain and Europe prior to and after the crusades. But want to cry at the mere mention of the word crusades. What a pack of hypocrites.

[Canard]

I'm rather loathe to accept half a story from The Sun as proof on this, especially as it has no direct attribution in it and I can't find anything anywhere else on this.

Can't quite work out why it would upset the Turks anyway. As St George was a Turk, I'd think they'd be quite pleased that he was being worshiped so over here.

The only thing that I can think of that the St George Cross is an official flag in the Royal Navy flown by an Admiral's flagship, which may affect which other ships are allowed to fly it, I don't know that for sure though.

[swilhelm73]

The Seljuk Turks entered Asia Minor after the Byzantine defeat at Manzikert.

The Crusades helped the Byzantines and Armenians retake control of the area which then, as you note, would be later conquered by the Ottoman Turks.