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Habemus Papam...Ad Perpetuitatem?
Tech Central Station ^ | April 21st, 2005 | Rand Simberg

Posted on 04/21/2005 7:56:20 AM PDT by NonZeroSum

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Food for thought...
1 posted on 04/21/2005 7:56:21 AM PDT by NonZeroSum
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To: NonZeroSum

sounds like a lot of pointless speculation to me. But I do thank you for the post.


2 posted on 04/21/2005 7:59:43 AM PDT by Fudd Fan (CARPE TUNNEL - seize the mouse)
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To: Fudd Fan

Oldest Pope elected since Pope Clement XII in 1730.


3 posted on 04/21/2005 8:02:22 AM PDT by Borges
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To: Fudd Fan

Funny tag line, Fudd.

Oh, yeah, about the ridiculous article: Maybe the writer should contact the Catholic church before he writes any more about the Catholic religion.


4 posted on 04/21/2005 8:04:04 AM PDT by kitkat
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To: NonZeroSum
Interesting link through this article to an unutterable moron bashing the great Leon Kass.
5 posted on 04/21/2005 8:04:59 AM PDT by wideawake (God bless our brave soldiers and their Commander in Chief)
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To: NonZeroSum

From my admittedly limited, lay understanding of Church doctrine, I don't think there is any doctrinal objection to long human life per se - as long as other human life is not sacrificed for its extension (embryonic stem cells, etc.).

But "immortality" has been "around the corner" for quite a while; we've yet to make that turn. Though I wish Benedict XVI a long and successful pontificate guided by the Holy Spirit, I'd be pleasantly surprised if it approaches double decades...


6 posted on 04/21/2005 8:05:20 AM PDT by karnage
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To: NonZeroSum

"This could be the last time we see a papal enclave."

[tongue-in-cheek]I don't think anyone alive today has seen one.

Of course, the papal enclave would be tiny, assuming they occupy the same neighborhood in Heaven.[/tongue-in-cheek]


7 posted on 04/21/2005 8:11:58 AM PDT by Aristotle721 (The Recovering Choir Director - www.cantemusdomino.net/blog)
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To: NonZeroSum

"This could be the last time we see a papal enclave."

[tongue-in-cheek]I don't think anyone alive today has seen one.

Of course, the papal enclave would be tiny, assuming they occupy the same neighborhood in Heaven.[/tongue-in-cheek]


8 posted on 04/21/2005 8:12:20 AM PDT by Aristotle721 (The Recovering Choir Director - www.cantemusdomino.net/blog)
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To: NonZeroSum
After all, the previous pope availed himself of all available medical technology up until just days before his death, when he decided that the machinery couldn't offer him a life worth living, with the ability to continue to carry out his duties.

Amazing how this slipped in. Where does this B.S. come from. Pope John Paul II actually said this?!?!?

9 posted on 04/21/2005 8:21:02 AM PDT by frogjerk
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fter all, the previous pope availed himself of all available medical technology up until just days before his death, when he decided that the machinery couldn't offer him a life worth living, with the ability to continue to carry out his duties.

I disagree. Pope John Paul II set an example by his own suffering and death on how to die with dignity and how we are to accept God's plan, not man's.

10 posted on 04/21/2005 8:27:27 AM PDT by frogjerk
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To: NonZeroSum

Heard a quote this morning (likely on Fox) that the new Pope himself has predicted his reign will be a short one.


11 posted on 04/21/2005 8:45:07 AM PDT by CedarDave
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Pope John Paul II set an example by his own suffering and death on how to die with dignity and how we are to accept God's plan, not man's.

That's the point of the piece. How to determine what's God's plan and what's man's? Did he refuse antibiotics when he was younger, because perhaps it was God's plan for him to die of an infection? He made a conscious decision at a certain point to no longer artificially keep himself alive. That may have been God's plan, in his mind, but it provides no general guidance to the rest of us (or to his successor) as to which medical treatments to use, and which to abjure.

12 posted on 04/21/2005 8:57:23 AM PDT by NonZeroSum
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The issue of God's will vs human free will has always been a sticky one. My extreme, flippant example is of a man who walks blindfolded across a higheway at rush hour, stating that whatever happens to him will be "God's will." I don't have all the answers but I know it's more complicated than that. :)


13 posted on 04/21/2005 9:26:52 AM PDT by cvq3842
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To: wideawake

People who love life don't think that Leon Kass is so great.


14 posted on 04/21/2005 10:45:12 AM PDT by NonZeroSum
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To: NonZeroSum
Leon Kass loves life - I know the man perosnally, BTW - and he wants to preserve its meaning and its relevance.

He also wants to defend not only the lives of rock stars and millionaires but of the unborn, the infirm and the elderly.

15 posted on 04/21/2005 10:47:34 AM PDT by wideawake (God bless our brave soldiers and their Commander in Chief)
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To: wideawake
He also wants to defend not only the lives of rock stars and millionaires but of the unborn, the infirm and the elderly.

For the length of time that he deems sufficient.

16 posted on 04/21/2005 10:51:44 AM PDT by ThinkDifferent (These pretzels are making me thirsty)
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For the length of time that he deems sufficient.

No, for the natural length of their lives.

17 posted on 04/21/2005 10:57:47 AM PDT by wideawake (God bless our brave soldiers and their Commander in Chief)
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No, for the natural length of their lives.

Define "natural". Why is penicillin ok but rejuvenation therapy to reverse the aging process not?

18 posted on 04/21/2005 11:04:12 AM PDT by ThinkDifferent (These pretzels are making me thirsty)
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To: ThinkDifferent

Staph is a disease. Getting old isn't.


19 posted on 04/21/2005 11:10:40 AM PDT by wideawake (God bless our brave soldiers and their Commander in Chief)
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To: Fudd Fan

Totally pointless speculation.


20 posted on 04/21/2005 11:15:08 AM PDT by TASMANIANRED (Rule # 4. When liberals have factual evidence that their position is wrong they ignore the evidence)
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