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Skeletons on your hard drive
CNet.News.com ^ | 4/20/2005 | Matt Hines

Posted on 04/20/2005 7:11:32 AM PDT by Mike Bates

Tax records, resumes, photo albums--the modern hard drive can keep increasingly larger volumes of information at the ready. But that can turn into a problem when it comes to effectively erasing the devices.

There are a number of options for cleansing the drives of unwanted computers, from special wiping software to destruction services to manufacturers' recycling programs. But what many PC owners don't realize, experts say, is that these methods are often not enough.

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TOPICS: Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: computing; drives; eraseharddrive; erasing; harddrive; privacy
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To: Mike Bates
I've heard that a good toasting in the coals in your chacoal grill works well -- especially if you "fan" the fire with air supplied by the blower outlet of a tank-type vacuum cleaner...

...particularly after you've used it for target practice...

If a little overkill is good, a whole lot is better...'-)

81 posted on 04/20/2005 8:42:16 AM PDT by TXnMA (ATTN, ACLU & NAACP: There's no constitutionally protected right to NOT be offended -- Shove It!)
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To: Mike Bates

Section Il. DEMOLITION OF MATERIEL TO PREVENT ENEMY USE

29. Authority for Demolition

Demolition of the equipment will be accomplished only upon the order of the commander. The destruction procedures outlined in paragraph 30 will be used to prevent further use of the equipment.

30. Methods of Destruction

Use any of the following methods to destroy the equipment.

a. Smash. Smash capacitors, transformer, resistors, sockets, plugs, control switch, and vibrators; use sledges, axes, handaxes, pickaxes, hammers, or crowbars.

Cut: Cut the input cable and wiring. Use axes, handaxes or machetes.

Burn: Burn the input cable and technical manuals. Use gasoline, oil, flame throwers, or incendiary grenades.

Bend: Bend the panel and case.

Explode: If explosives are necessary, use firearms, grenades, or TNT.

Dispose: Bury or scatter the destroyed parts in slit trenches, foxholes, or throw them into streams.


82 posted on 04/20/2005 8:55:21 AM PDT by Fresh Wind
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To: -YYZ-

Yup. While information may be recovered, it's a cost-vs-profit ratio issue. Just deleting everything then overwriting everything is enough unless you have some VERY valuable data to eliminate.

Under most conditions, it's far easier to resort to "rubber hose crypography" than CSI/NSA-type data recovery.


83 posted on 04/20/2005 9:00:29 AM PDT by ctdonath2
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To: Mike Bates; GOPJ

Trying to spell words correctly only supports the Bush Doctrine of Power Grab in State Schools / Leave No Child Behind ideology. Spelling words incorrectly is, therefore, a tool in support of the states' rights to look, act, and be stupid.

In other words, anyone who spells correctly: it's Bush's fault.


84 posted on 04/20/2005 9:00:46 AM PDT by GretchenM (Darwin's *theory* of evolution flamed Hitler's all-too-real eugenics.)
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To: NautiNurse

The worst I ever saw as a tech support weenie was someone who tried to undelete a file by using - as just a flippant guess on her part - "recover.com". Without prompting, it renamed EVERY file on her hard drive to FILE0000.REC, FILE0001.REC, etc. (recover.com presumes the entire directory structure has been corrupted and rebuilds it from the FAT table.) That was my most frustrating call: all of her information was still there, we just had no idea which file was which.


85 posted on 04/20/2005 9:04:53 AM PDT by ctdonath2
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To: beezdotcom

Your office is in a Faraday Cage, right? NO???


86 posted on 04/20/2005 9:05:37 AM PDT by ctdonath2
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To: NautiNurse
Wouldn't a sledge hammer be the simple, inexpensive method to permanently lose the hard drive?

Yeah. If someone is trading in or giving their computer away, it's very easy just to wipe the drive and remove it. You could throw in a cheap 40 Gig hard drive to replace the one you removed and just hang on to the old one for awhile, then destroy it.

87 posted on 04/20/2005 9:12:24 AM PDT by corlorde (Without the home of the brave, there would be no land of the free)
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To: Stark_GOP
Just try moving your computer when the harddrive light comes on. Bad things happen really quick.

That's what happened to Vince Foster's computer. The Clintons know how to cover their tracks.

88 posted on 04/20/2005 9:13:05 AM PDT by DeweyCA
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To: Arrowhead1952
Electric drills or pneumatic chisels do the trick as well.

LOL. I hope Mr. Mew doesn't see this thread. He'll have visions of new tools dancing in his head :)

89 posted on 04/20/2005 9:14:15 AM PDT by mewzilla
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To: DeweyCA
The Clintons know how to cover their tracks

Hillary could give shredding classes to first year IT students. I'm sure the clinton's could write the book on file shredding, document security, and data deletion.

90 posted on 04/20/2005 9:16:49 AM PDT by corlorde (Without the home of the brave, there would be no land of the free)
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To: mewzilla; Ramius; RosieCotton; JenB

I wonder if soaking one's hard drive in muriatic acid for a time would destroy it...


91 posted on 04/20/2005 9:21:40 AM PDT by 2Jedismom (The light at the end of the tunnel is most certainly not a train.)
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To: mewzilla
He'll have visions of new tools dancing in his head :)

Get him one of these and he can cut anything apart. Heh!! Heh!!


92 posted on 04/20/2005 9:21:42 AM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (TV News and the MSM - - - ROTFLMAO)
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To: ctdonath2
Your office is in a Faraday Cage, right? NO???

I could tell you, but then I'd have to shoot you! :-)
93 posted on 04/20/2005 9:23:03 AM PDT by beezdotcom (I'm usually either right or wrong...)
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To: Arrowhead1952
Whoa. Well, his birthday is coming up soon...
94 posted on 04/20/2005 9:24:35 AM PDT by mewzilla
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To: 2Jedismom

You'd be surprised what won't destroy it...

I think a little C4 would do the job though.


95 posted on 04/20/2005 9:25:06 AM PDT by JenB
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To: 2Jedismom

Muriatic acid? (scratching head) Would I hafta milk some ants for that?


96 posted on 04/20/2005 9:25:35 AM PDT by mewzilla
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To: mewzilla
Duh, that's formic acid. Muriatic is the stuff you prep concrete with? LOL. That might do it!
97 posted on 04/20/2005 9:26:51 AM PDT by mewzilla
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To: beezdotcom
Meanwhile, there's a guy in a van outside your house reading everything on your screen from the video card RF leakage...

No way baby! (typed from inside my Faraday cage)

98 posted on 04/20/2005 9:33:38 AM PDT by Ol' Sox
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To: GretchenM

Thank you for that concise explanation. Now I need some aspirin.


99 posted on 04/20/2005 9:48:39 AM PDT by Mike Bates (Irish Alzheimer's victim: I only remember the grudges.)
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To: DeweyCA
That's what happened to Vince Foster's computer. The Clintons know how to cover their tracks.
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No no no...you're thinking of moving Vince Foster's body. ;) But that topic deserves its own thread.
100 posted on 04/20/2005 9:57:07 AM PDT by Stark_GOP
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