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Possible Legionnaire's At A Manhattan Hospital
1010 WINS ^ | Apr 20, 2005 6:50 am US/Eastern | 1010 WINS

Posted on 04/20/2005 5:09:14 AM PDT by Calpernia

NEW YORK State health officials are investigating the death of a Columbia Presbyterian Medical Center patient, which may have been caused by an outbreak of Legionnaire's disease.

The officials believe the bacteria may have been in the hospital's water system.

Richard Montesano died last Wednesday shortly after coming to the hospital for a heart condition.

He was using a machine that sprayed water in his throat to fight sleep apnea, but the hospital did not warn his family that tap water could be dangerous.

Legionnaire's disease can be found in the water systems of large buildings and is hazardous to people whose immune systems have been weakened.

The hospital has since turned off its faucets and began using bottled water while it sterilizes its pipes.

The New York City medical examiner ruled that Montesano died of an infection after a catheter was placed in his arm. But lab results are expected to determine whether Legionnaire's was a factor.

Columbia Presbyterian officials say the hospital regularly monitors its system for Legionnaire's disease.


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1 posted on 04/20/2005 5:09:16 AM PDT by Calpernia
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To: KylaStarr; Cindy; StillProud2BeFree; nw_arizona_granny; Velveeta; Dolphy; appalachian_dweller; ...

NOTE: Water System is suspected.


2 posted on 04/20/2005 5:10:01 AM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: firebrand

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3 posted on 04/20/2005 5:10:24 AM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg; flutters; genefromjersey

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4 posted on 04/20/2005 5:11:30 AM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Calpernia

A shame more details are not available, this sounds like some media hype. Until all data are available, and an autopsy and inquest has determined cause of death, anything else is pure speculation.


5 posted on 04/20/2005 5:13:26 AM PDT by Kelly_2000
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To: Calpernia
...the hospital did not warn his family that tap water could be dangerous.

I thought it was an airborne bacteria.

6 posted on 04/20/2005 5:21:57 AM PDT by theDentist (The Dems are putting all their eggs in one basket-case: Howard "Belltower" Dean.)
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To: Calpernia
On The Net...

Wollongong records 14th legionnaire's case
ABC Regional Online, Australia - Mar 21, 2005
Health authorities have confirmed a 14th case of legionnaire's disease in Wollongong on the New South Wales south coast.

Outbreak of legionnaire's ic SouthLondon.co.uk, UK - Mar 23, 2005
AN OUTBREAK of legionnaire's disease at St George's Hospital has led to an "urgent review" of control measures.

Tourism drive targets South Koreans ...
Schools planning excursions switched over to hotels. Then there was an outbreak of Legionnaire's disease at a spa in Miyazaki Prefecture in 2002 that was followed two years later by a string of scandals over water quality.

7 posted on 04/20/2005 5:25:47 AM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Calpernia
How common is legionellosis in the United States?

How is legionellosis spread?

Where is the Legionella bacterium found?

What is being done to prevent legionellosis?

Legionellosis is an infection caused by the bacterium Legionella pneumophila. The disease has two distinct forms:

Legionnaires' disease acquired its name in 1976 when an outbreak of pneumonia occurred among persons attending a convention of the American Legion in Philadelphia. Later, the bacterium causing the illness was named Legionella.

8 posted on 04/20/2005 5:30:05 AM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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"Legionnaire's disease can be found in the water systems of large buildings... "

Is this implying that it is common for Legionnaire's disease to be found in large buildings and all should be suspect?

9 posted on 04/20/2005 5:32:59 AM PDT by sweet_diane ("Will I dance for you Jesus? Or in awe of You be still? I can only imagine..I can only imagine.")
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That is how I read it too. Hence is why I did more searches and posted more links with info.


10 posted on 04/20/2005 5:36:39 AM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Calpernia

Sorry... I should have waited longer before posting, you post wasn't up yet.


11 posted on 04/20/2005 5:50:29 AM PDT by sweet_diane ("Will I dance for you Jesus? Or in awe of You be still? I can only imagine..I can only imagine.")
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To: sweet_diane

Don't be silly. I was agreeing with you and was surprised by the implications of it being common in water.


12 posted on 04/20/2005 5:53:55 AM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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My mother-in-law contracted Legionnaire's Disease a few years ago. It's nothing pretty, to say the least. It almost caused her to leave this world. She was on life support for nearly a month and is, even now, suffering residual effects from that illness. Her cardio-pulmonary health isn't good at all.

It's a scary & potentially deadly disease.

13 posted on 04/20/2005 5:59:20 AM PDT by PleaseNoMore
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To: Calpernia
My understanding is that Legionella (sp?) are everywhere.
14 posted on 04/20/2005 6:00:29 AM PDT by AlbertWang
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To: Calpernia

Like I always say once you go into the hospital you come out sicker or not at all!


15 posted on 04/20/2005 6:02:46 AM PDT by LittleMoe
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To: AlbertWang
It sounds like it from these paragraphs from the CDC.

Where is the Legionella bacterium found?

Legionella organisms can be found in many types of water systems. However, the bacteria reproduce to high numbers in warm, stagnant water (90°-105° F), such as that found in certain plumbing systems and hot water tanks, cooling towers and evaporative condensers of large air-conditioning systems, and whirlpool spas. Cases of legionellosis have been identified throughout the United States and in several foreign countries. It is believed to occur worldwide.

16 posted on 04/20/2005 6:11:39 AM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Calpernia

Legionnaire’s Disease
Prepared by Carina Blackmore M.S. Vet. Med., Ph.D.
(Legionellosis)

DOH Regional Epidemiologist

Legionellosis was first recognized in 1976 after an explosive outbreak of pneumonia (with 182 cases and 29 deaths) among participants of the American Legion’s convention in Philadelphia

The source of the bacteria, Legionella pneumophilia, was never determined, although it appeared to be airborne. By 1978 researchers had found the organism growing in cooling towers or evaporative condensers of air-conditioning systems at the sites of several outbreaks and hypothesized that the
equipment may aid in disseminating the organism into the air.

Further investigations have revealed that bacteria in the genus Legionella are ubiquitous in the environment. Modern technology has made a few of them important human pathogens.
Legionella pneumophilia parasitize amobae, other protozoa or bacteria that occasionally contaminate warm (90-115°F) water reservoirs. By aerosolizing infested water from humidifiers, respiratory therapy equipment, showers etc., the organism can be inhaled in small droplets into the lung alveoli.
In the lungs they invade and kill the protozoa-like phagocytic immune cells. Toxin production by the bacteria also contributes to the development of pneumonia. The disease is not transmissible from person to person.


17 posted on 04/20/2005 6:17:18 AM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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"However, the bacteria reproduce to high numbers in warm, stagnant water (90°-105° F), such as that found in certain plumbing systems and hot water tanks, cooling towers and evaporative condensers of large air-conditioning systems, and whirlpool spas."

Good grief. It's a wonder we don't hear more about this disease.

18 posted on 04/20/2005 6:21:49 AM PDT by sweet_diane ("Will I dance for you Jesus? Or in awe of You be still? I can only imagine..I can only imagine.")
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Arizona Tucson
Lo Que Pasa August 30, 1996

Water system chlorinated to destroy Legionella

Super-chlorination of the Arizona Health Sciences Center water system was done this week as a continuing effort to destroy Legionella bacteriaIn August, following recommendations from the Centers for Disease Control and the Arizona Department of Health Services, University Medical Center super-chlorinated its water systern to destroy the bacteria.

Since the beginning of the year, UniversityMedical Center has seen an increased incidence of Legionellosis, a bacterial disease that can cause pneumonia, with seven cases being diagnosed at UMG. All of the cases involved patients with severely suppressed immune systems.

The Legionella bacterium is common in the environment. People at greatest risk are those whose immune systems have been suppressed. Legionellosis can be easily treated with the common antibiotic, erythromycin.

"lt's important for people to know this is very common in the environment. According to the CDC, it's in 30 percent of large buildings and 50 percent of large air conditioning systems with Legionella, because it can be found everywhere in the environment. It's a serious issue and we have followed all CDC recommendations."
The disease was responisable for the deaths of two transplant patients and sickening five others.
ADHS confirmed 12 cases in this state this year, two in Pima County


19 posted on 04/20/2005 6:24:57 AM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Calpernia

1996,
Arizona and Ohio Nosocomial Legionnaires Disease

Two hospitals reported sustained transmission of nosocomial Legionnaires disease (LD). The hot water distribution systems in each hospital were implicated as the sources of infection. This report summarizes investigations in these two hospitals by hospital personnel, state and local health officials, and CDC and efforts to control transmission. Arizona, 1987–1996 In 1996, eight cases of nosocomial LD were diagnosed among cardiac and bone marrow transplant patients at hospital X. Possible nosocomial LD was first reported at hospital X in 1979, but no source had been identified. Intensified surveillance for noso-comial LD was initiated after the first three case-patients were identified in 1996.

A case of definite nosocomial LD in a hospital X patient was defined as respiratory illness with a new infiltrate on chest roentgenogram occurring after ³10 days of con-tinuous hospitalization for a nonpneumonia illness and laboratory confirmation of le-gionellae infection by at least one of the following:

1) isolation of legionellae from tissue or respiratory secretions,

2) detection of Legionella pneumophila serogroup 1 (Lp-1) antigens in urine by radioimmunoassay or enzyme immunoassay, or

3) a four-fold rise in Legionella serogroup-specific antibody titer to ³128 between acute- and convalescent-phase serum specimens. Possible nosocomial LD was defined as onset of respiratory symptoms of LD after 2–9 days of continuous hospitalization (the incu-bation period for LD is usually 2–10 days).

Through intensified surveillance and examination of infection-control and micro-biology laboratory records, 25 cases of LD linked to hospitalization during 1987–1996 were identified; 16 were definite cases, and nine were possible cases (Figure 1). All were diagnosed by culture. The median age of case-patients was 56 years (range: 17– 81 years); 13 (52%) were male. Most case-patients had received either heart or heart/lung transplants (11 [44%]) or bone marrow transplants (seven [28%]). Seven (28%) other patients were either immunocompromised (four) or had some form of chronic illness (three). Twelve (48%) patients died during their hospitalization; eight of these patients had LD identified on autopsy. During January–September 1996, cases of nosocomial LD occurred among eight (6%) of the 134 cardiac and bone marrow transplant patients.

Based on a case-control study that matched the 25 case-patients with 49 controls (only one appropriate control was available for one case-patient) by age, date of ad-mission to hospital X, and underlying medical condition, no single risk factor for ac-quisition of disease was identified. However, information about exposure to showers, other aerosol sources, or ingested water for some patients was unavailable.


20 posted on 04/20/2005 6:26:50 AM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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